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04-08-2020 08:40 PM #1 lupul_rau (Member)
!!! You WON'T BELIEVE What These 2 ...Guys Actually Did **IN JUST 8 DAYS** !!!

Hi everyone! We've joined the STM Vortex 40 day challenge. I'm Mihai, I've been doing facebook ads for the past 4 years. My partner is Claudiu, he did adult affiliate marketing and he's a good programmer. Here is our 8 day journey so far that we will update almost daily. Please help...

Day 1 of our journey (1st April):

We applied for various offers on ClickDealer.
We installed FunnelFlux on a VPS.
We applied for an offer that was launched in Kenya. Here is a screenshot below:

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Day 2 of our journey:

We sent traffic from PopAds to this offer. Spent $2.5 and we’ve made 1 single conversion in day 5 of our journey. The traffic still runs to this day. But no conversions as you see below:

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We did this to see if the postbacks work… and how it feels like to get one conversion J


Day 4 of our journey:

We bought AdPlexity… Searched for “Win an iPhone/Samsung” popup offers. We chose 2 landing pages. Then we applied for a offer in clickdealer that was consistent with the landing page from adplexity.

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Day 5 of our journey:

We sent traffic from PropellerAds this time (as opposed to PopAds the first few days – Kenia campaign)
So we sent traffic to India and Pakistan. We found out in that day that India + Chrome Mobile browser is the best:

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Day 6 of our journey:

Took a break


Day 7 + 8 of our journey (Tuesday, Wednesday) **Wednesday is the day we’re posting this on STM**

We launched that offer + that landing page + only India + only Chrome Mobile WITH AI OPTIMISATION this time…

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And these are our results so far…

We think the AI actually optimizes, what do you think? Running it longer makes a difference?

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We got approved for offers in Malaysia, Jordan, South Africa – for the same “Win an iPhone/Android” ClickDealer offer (that we used above with India)
We haven’t launched it yet.

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Our questions for the experienced STM members are:

-What have we been doing wrong if any?
-What have we not thought about? (and trust us that we’ve looked at every single other breakdown and we couldn’t see any clear pattern)
-What should we do in the future?


04-09-2020 12:47 PM #2 lupul_rau (Member)

[Please Help With One Quick Question Before We Proceed] How can we view clickdealer offer? Experience it like the user does?


My question is, like in the title, once I apply for a clickdealer offer, I get accepted, and I can get the link, paste it in propellerads link it to my landing page etc.


But I'm in the dark when it comes to seeing that offer, the visuals of it, how the user sees it on his/her mobile phone etc.


Is there a way/ a tool that makes this possible, some vpn, changing IP method..


It's critical that we see the offers and step out of the dark..




Thanks a lot!



--- And another quick question... does the PropellerAds AI actually make a big difference? What has been your experience with using AI vs not using the propellerads AI?


04-09-2020 01:02 PM #3 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Just ask the AM for a previewlink or screenshots of the flow. They should be able to provide this. VPN's aren't always able to fix the problem, but good ones should do the job yeah.


04-09-2020 04:11 PM #4 lupul_rau (Member)

One thing we found out was a software that allows to see offers, not just their links and previews, using this tool:


https://affilitest.com

We will be using it from now on.

Also it turns out that the AI messes up the data from multiple campaigns, so we're stuck with slow support for 1-2 days until we figure out what the problem is..


04-10-2020 02:36 PM #5 lupul_rau (Member)

UPDATE 1:

DAY 10 OF OUR JOURNEY [Friday basically.. last post was on Day 8 on Wednesday]

We've decided to be really nitpicky with the placements, to see whether we can whitelist or blacklist anything.

We saw that there was a clear possibility in Browser languages to blacklist.. so we did:



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And... now it's Friday and we're in green again:

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BTW do you remember our newbie first campaign with Kenya.. we'll it still hasn't spent the 2.5$ we've set to it.. (this was on PopAds, as opposed to the main one above which is in PropellerAds) so yeah, we kept that Kenyan campaign running.. and now it's spent 2.36$ and it's made ANOTHER conversion.. so the revenue is 2 conversions * 0.55$ = 1.1$, still on the red but who knows.. maybe that will make a million dollars someday if we keep it running for the end of time.

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QUESTION TO THE STM EXPERTS:

We've been calling the PropellerAds AI for some time now. It's actually called
Smart Optimization Tools

Do you have any experience with it? Did it actually make a difference in that Indian campaign we have? Does it do anything? What's your experience with it?


04-10-2020 02:57 PM #6 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by lupul_rau View Post
One thing we found out was a software that allows to see offers, not just their links and previews, using this tool:


https://affilitest.com

We will be using it from now on.

Also it turns out that the AI messes up the data from multiple campaigns, so we're stuck with slow support for 1-2 days until we figure out what the problem is..
I replied to it on your other thread HERE

Quote Originally Posted by lupul_rau View Post
QUESTION TO THE STM EXPERTS:

We've been calling the PropellerAds AI for some time now. It's actually called
Smart Optimization Tools

Do you have any experience with it? Did it actually make a difference in that Indian campaign we have? Does it do anything? What's your experience with it?

Basically this is only a tool to block non converting placements that spend more per conversion than you are willing to pay.

But it doesn´t adjust bids and it also can´t optimize landers and offers.


04-10-2020 04:12 PM #7 lupul_rau (Member)

Thanks twinaxe for your reply!

So there's no way that the campaign optimises (like in Facebook Ads)

The only thing we can do in the affiliate world is 1. pick offers, 2. work on landing pages, 3. pick good traffic placements (including whitelisting and blacklisting). There isn't any other thing right?


04-12-2020 02:02 PM #8 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by lupul_rau View Post
Thanks twinaxe for your reply!

So there's no way that the campaign optimises (like in Facebook Ads)

The only thing we can do in the affiliate world is 1. pick offers, 2. work on landing pages, 3. pick good traffic placements (including whitelisting and blacklisting). There isn't any other thing right?
At first it´s important to differ between optimizing on the trafficsource vs optimizing your landers and offers.

FB also can´t optimiue your landers and offers, it can only check based on the data you send back which targeting converts best and send traffic accordingly.

This is something you can also have for pops and push campaigns when you run them on CPA or CPA goal.

You can also have rules absed optimization for trafficsource level when you use a tool like TheOptimizer

But apart from optimiziugn landers and offers you can also test different bid levels, traffic quality, different connection types and stuff.


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