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03-17-2020 10:59 PM
#1
melkorglaurung ()
Landing Page Creation Software
As many affiliate marketers, I am also ripping landers, editing the page maybe some content change and run it. But sometimes I have some another angle or design idea but my coding skills are very limited. There are landing page softwares and templates on internet and they offer drag&drop options and i can easily make new landing pages.
Problem arises here that those landing pages are not suitable for affiliate marketing mostly because they are sometimes till 10 mb and they load slowly. I need a landing page creator or some other software where i can create very lightweight clean html&css based landing pages lets say from 30kb to max 1 mb. Do you know any software and program for this?
03-17-2020 11:45 PM
#2
jack_l (Veteran Member)
I am really ignorant on this subject compared to most of the people on here... but did want to offer my own experiences...
I started out with a service that was super fast but with no drag and drop and lots of problems, no customer service, etc... because I heard speed was all that mattered... However I really didn't like it as it was glitchy and I did not have the coding knowledge to make it work and customer support never emailed me back. At the same time, I was using Clickfunnels for other stuff (which I loved).
One day I tested an identical page through it vs Clickfunnels and Clickfunnels beat it... I was shocked, as Clickfunnels is supposed to be super slow (which it is, to some extent).
I repeated it multiple other times and Clickfunnels always won... was really weird.. I think it might have to do with subtle ways in which the images and buttons hover on the screen, where the super fast versions just don't look "right" to people (this specific one had a weird thing where the images looked clickable but weren't, which I think lowered subconscious trust, etc)...
Clickfunnels also allows you to iterate new versions of pages like crazy... which in my opinion is where the advantage really comes (anyone can rip an lp, its iterating and improving them that makes profitable campaigns). I've done well into 7 figures with it now on natives, and while it's possible I would have had better margins using a faster setup, I have tried numerous ones and always go back to Clickfunnels.
With that said, there are certainly some traffic sources and verticals where it doesn't matter, and speed is absolutely integral, so if that is the case you'd probably want something else.
I believe Landerlab is the best new option in that regard, and actually it has decent drag and drop.
Losid has talked about it on here so if you search "Landerblab" you'll find some good info on it.
Also, I believe Wizz.io is the gold standard that combines all of the above and seems heads and tails above the rest, but it starts at 750$ a month so haven't tried it yet. (although I probably should as it seems to be worth it)
03-18-2020 04:34 PM
#3
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Would be helpful to know for what kind of traffic and offer verticals you are looking for landers.
03-18-2020 08:33 PM
#4
platinum (Veteran Member)
I believe Landerlab is the best new option in that regard, and actually it has decent drag and drop.
Losid has talked about it on here so if you search "Landerblab" you'll find some good info on it.
Thanks @
jack_l! Really appreciate your great feedback!
@
melkorglaurung what are you planning on using your landing pages for? What type of traffic source or offer types?
At LanderLab we already have a wide range of the most used landing page templates you can deploy right away (already cleaned up and optimized). Basically all you need to do is to connect a domain to your account, add your tracking links , then publish the pages. In case you need to change any or all the images, headlines or text of the landing page, the built-in visual builder is you best option if you don't like to deal with coding. On the other hand, in case you need to apply some specific customization that cannot be done with the visual editor, then you can do these changes straight into the source code of the page (code editor).
Also, regarding the loading speed of the page, it's true that it varies a lot from one service provider to another. Based on what I've tested, some landing page hosting services do load unnecessary libraries of code by default on all pages, even when not needed - Clickfunnels is one of them. After ripping and adopting several CF, Unbounce, Convertri (and other services) pages, and testing them against the same version I adopted for a hosting environment like we have with Landerlab, the page loading speed difference was huge.
BUT...
Along with the way on how a page is build by a specific landing page building service, we have to consider the elements we are adding to a landing page. Just to name a few:
- Uncompressed images.
- Not optimized javascript and/or css libraries.
- Badly embedded videos (which by the way has a huge impact on the page speed)
There are literally hundreds if not thousands of pages out there that don't fulfill any best-practices, yet cause they're promoting a good product and have a great copy, convert pretty well.
You can find a quick demo in the below FB video link, even though the playback quality isn't great as I screwed up something with the recording storage setting on zoom.
https://www.facebook.com/theoptimize...3917170259952/
03-22-2020 10:39 PM
#5
melkorglaurung ()

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Would be helpful to know for what kind of traffic and offer verticals you are looking for landers.

Originally Posted by
platinum
@melkorglaurung what are you planning on using your landing pages for? What type of traffic source or offer types?
Thank you for your valuable information. I am running on Native mostly gadgets, COD health and beauty products and financial products like Forex. I also run Pop campaigns for Streaming and Forex again. I am also trying Search campaigns on Bing ads and I used the same landers on Bing Ads which I used in Taboola for instance but it didnt perform in the same way.

Originally Posted by
jack_l
Clickfunnels also allows you to iterate new versions of pages like crazy... which in my opinion is where the advantage really comes (anyone can rip an lp, its iterating and improving them that makes profitable campaigns). I've done well into 7 figures with it now on natives, and while it's possible I would have had better margins using a faster setup, I have tried numerous ones and always go back to Clickfunnels.
Thank you for the feedback. What you mean here is that, you can rip an LP on spy tool, load it to Clickfunnels and iterate new versions there?
03-22-2020 11:49 PM
#6
jack_l (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
melkorglaurung
Thank you for the feedback. What you mean here is that, you can rip an LP on spy tool, load it to Clickfunnels and iterate new versions there?
Well, on Clickfunnels you couldn't rip something off spytools (at least I don't think so), so you would have to build it from scratch. That only takes me about 5-10 minutes usually though. Then you can very quickly make and split-test different versions and just always be split-testing, which is a huge advantage over a competitor who just rips things without ever testing new stuff.
On Landerlab you could actually rip something and then make edits and new iterations - as I said, Landerlab could end up being the sort of ideal lp service where it has both the speed and easy editing, right now though I can still edit way faster in Clickfunnels, though perhaps once I use Landerlab more I'll be able to do so just as easily with it.
Clickfunnels also makes it easy to collect emails, create quizzes, etc though... and make very specific optimizations for mobile...
But yeah, based on what you are doing I would recommend Landerlab though... then if you start making tons of bank later and you want to also add Clickfunnels later for the advantages it provides, or really go all out and do Wizz.io you could do that as well. Or if you find that Landerlab doesn't allow you the customization or ease of editing you want. Although I would wager Losid et al will be continually improving Landerlab and that over time it will become pretty darn incredible in what it can do.
03-23-2020 06:49 AM
#7
erikgyepes (Moderator)
Creating landing pages with software is possible, but creating fast and lightweight landing pages is challenging.
Your best bet is ie:
1) Learn how to code or at least understand code. Then you can use frameworks like Bootstrap (though this one is not as lightweight), but think of it as building blocks/lego where you have most basic elements pre-built and you are gluing it together.
2) Rip and edit an existing lander, but again here you need to understand the code so you can make edits
3) Hire someone to do the job for you. Here again, best would be to hire someone to create you a template that you will reuse and edit as needed. This way you would also cut your costs in the longterm.
07-03-2020 06:10 PM
#8
ceokornten (Member)

Originally Posted by
erikgyepes
Creating landing pages with software is possible, but creating fast and lightweight landing pages is challenging.
Your best bet is ie:
1) Learn how to code or at least understand code. Then you can use frameworks like Bootstrap (though this one is not as lightweight), but think of it as building blocks/lego where you have most basic elements pre-built and you are gluing it together.
2) Rip and edit an existing lander, but again here you need to understand the code so you can make edits
3) Hire someone to do the job for you. Here again, best would be to hire someone to create you a template that you will reuse and edit as needed. This way you would also cut your costs in the longterm.
can you share some RIP Tools ?
07-03-2020 07:28 PM
#9
vortex (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
ceokornten
can you share some RIP Tools ?
httrack is free and does the job.
Plus there are other ways to get landers...
Adplexity has all types of landers you can just download:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...or-STM-Members
Here's our free landers depository:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Download-Links
Lots of landers for just $1:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Plexity-ONLY-1!!
Hope that helps!
Amy
07-03-2020 10:35 PM
#10
jeremie (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
vortex
I second HTTrack. Great tool that downloads all files even on external domains. This is useful if you rip a lander with a library on a CDN. It will still load properly if you work on it offline later.
Be aware that by default, HTTrack signals itself while scrapping by sending the following user agent, which can cause problems sometimes, if there is a cloaker on the lander.
Code:
Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98)
To change it, go in "Preferences and mirror options" / "Browser ID" and change "Browser Identity"
Type "what is my user agent" in Google, if you need an example of user agent.
07-03-2020 10:56 PM
#11
jaybot (Veteran Member)
Or, visit the page you want to rip in Chrome and File, 'Save Page As...' Webpage complete.
This will work for 90% of the landers you're trying to rip.
10% of the time, some stuff might be missing, as jeremie mentioned. For most missing elements, you can usually download them manually from the original page.
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