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02-17-2020 08:50 AM
#1
olympian (Member)
40-Day Tutorial Followed by Olympian
Day 1
Time to take action! 
Started 2 days ago, and applied to all recommended services.
Now I have access to:
Mobidea, PropellerAds, PopAds
Waiting for approval from Gotzha, Clickdealer
Also, I got approved for Zeropark and I got $500 in MGID from before.
Next step, open Voluum account, setup domain and learn how to choose
offers on Mobidea..
02-17-2020 08:54 AM
#2
ivan the terrible (Member)
Wow, you don't waste time at all 
Good luck mate, I'm rooting for you.
02-17-2020 06:15 PM
#3
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
One tip, test your campaigns first on Propeller Ads and Popads and use Zeropark then for scaling.
Zeropark is a traffic monster and has lots of volume so it´s very good for scaling.
But when you start on such huge sources with an unproven funnel or when you first need to test landers and offers be prepared to spend quite some money first to find good placements.
It´s better to test on easier sources first and then when you have a good converting funnel use such big sources as ZP for scaling to get maximum volume.
Just to make it clear, that doesn´t mean that ZP is bad at all.
It´s just that it has so much volume that testing there can be more expensive compared to other sources.
On the other hand you can then scale there a lot more.
02-20-2020 02:55 PM
#4
olympian (Member)
Small update, small steps!
1. I was comparing a little, and read a lot of great reviews about Binom, so decided to go with them.
Now I already have it installed on Digital Ocean, ready to be used.
2. I still have access only to Mobidea. I already chose 5 offers from there, as recommended.
Just small difference, they don't have EPC information anymore.
In contact with Clickdealer, and waiting for reply from Gotzha.
Now I have Mobidea, offers and Binom, so going to Days 9 and 10,
to learn how to setup tracking and campaign.
From what I see, this guide is so good, everything is explained in detail, no need
to ask anything until now 
02-23-2020 07:19 PM
#5
olympian (Member)
Happy to announce that I pressed 'START' for my 1st campaign few moments ago! 
In last few days I learned:
- How to choose offer in Mobidea
- How to add that campaign in Binom
- How to create and start that campaign in PropellerAds
Also, I was accepted in ClickDealer, and I started to research their campaigns.
My AM sent me spreadsheet of about 20 campaigns that he recommends.
Asked for his recommendation for offer, like it's advised inside 40 days blueprint.
Waiting for response, it takes a little longer probably because of weekend.
This is 7th day from my first post, long way to go, but
this Follow Along has helped me to do this faster as I usually do things!
And I must admit, 2, maybe even 3 days I did nothing..
I don't want that to happen again, so I decided something...
To be even more successful, I installed app that follows habits.
And my main habit there will be to spend 45 minutes every day working on this.
Of course, at least 45 minutes. And I will make it every day!
02-24-2020 04:45 AM
#6
vortex (Senior Moderator)
Great start @olympian!
As far as I can tell, you've made quite a bit of progress in a short time!
That app sounds awesome! I'd be interested in giving it a try too - what's the name please?
Will be monitoring this thread for further updates!
Amy
02-24-2020 07:07 AM
#7
olympian (Member)
Thanks, @vortex!
There are many similar apps, I am using the one called 'Strides'.
02-24-2020 08:04 AM
#8
ivan the terrible (Member)
Nice work @olympian so far it seems you are doing great, and I agree that by doing few simple tasks each and every day you can make mountains of work over time.
02-25-2020 08:48 PM
#9
olympian (Member)
1st Campaign report: traffic is incoming consistently, but no conversions yet.
I'm using Mobidea, Propeller Ads and Binom
But only 420 clicks in 2 days. Maybe Madagascar doesn't have a lot of traffic.
I'm not sure why PropellerAds and Binom show 420 clicks, but Mobidea
shows 526. That's a little big difference, or that's not important for me?
I just applied for 2 Clickdealer offers and waiting for approval.
Until that's approved, I will start with 1 or 2 more offers from Mobidea..
It's time for first conversions 
Also, nothing from Gotzha. Not sure how important they are, I guess
I can work with these 2 that I have for now. If Gotzha is important, I will contact
them soon and show them some results. 
I plan to do 3 things in next few days:
1. Start 1 or 2 Mobidea campaigns
2. Start 1st Clickdealer campaign
3. Go again through days 1-12 of blueprint, before starting with day 13.
I just have a feeling that's a good idea...
That's all for today.. Time is flying and by the end of the week I want
to have few conversions, I think it's about time 
02-26-2020 04:34 PM
#10
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Maybe Madagascar doesn't have a lot of traffic
Yes, probably
I'm not sure why PropellerAds and Binom show 420 clicks, but
Mobidea
shows 526. That's a little big difference, or that's not important for me?
Congrats, you have the opposite of clickloss.
But seriously, can´t tell why that happens.
Maybe it is the way
Mobidea counts the visits or so.
Let´s say Propeller sends some duplicate clicks that it doesn´t count, Binom also only counts unique clicks and Mobidea counts raw clicks.
Then it could happen that there is a discrepancy.
But in the end it shouldn´t worry you too much, better that way than having too high trafficloss that you can´t explain.
02-28-2020 09:48 AM
#11
olympian (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Yes, probably
Congrats, you have the opposite of clickloss.
My mistake, i didn't change dates.
So this is what I have:
Binom - 2199 clicks
Mobidea - 1139 clicks
So it looks like huge clickloss?
Is that something I should investigate?
And, finally,
First Conversion!
0.09% Conversion Rate
Now creating first Clickdealer campaign, so I will
see what happens with tracking and everything soon.
02-28-2020 03:17 PM
#12
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
olympian
So this is what I have:
Binom - 2199 clicks
Mobidea - 1139 clicks
So it looks like huge clickloss?
Is that something I should investigate?
Ths is indeed very big trafficloss.
Especially since it´s not from trafficsource to the tracker but from the tracker to the CPA network.
Do you use landers or do you run direct linked campaigns?

Originally Posted by
olympian
And, finally, First Conversion!
Congrats, you will probably never feel that good about a conversion again as you do for the first one
03-03-2020 06:43 PM
#13
olympian (Member)
2 campaigns, 1 conversion. 
I think it's important to fix the click loss, before I start using landing pages.
Both campaigns are direct linking:
| Propeller Ads clicks |
Spent |
Binom clicks |
Cost
(Binom) |
Clickdealer / Mobidea clicks |
| 4778 |
$1.014 |
4292 |
$0.76 |
2206 |
| 5234 |
$3.119 |
4516 |
$2.21 |
3029 |
All these looks a little too big differences, what's the 'normal'
cost % difference between real money spent and tracker?
I will create another direct linking campaign for Clickdealer
before I introduce landing pages finally..
03-05-2020 02:18 PM
#14
olympian (Member)
So fast, I'm in 3rd week of my follow up campaign.
My 3rd campaign was best, lots of traffic, 2 conversions,
spent $10 with -65% ROI.
All campaigns stats from Binom, since I started:

I paused all campaigns, and now will take some time
to prepare and create a campaign with landing page.
Probably I will use the offer that worked best, but need to
check the tutorial before I proceed.
1st conversion wasn't so exciting, because it was under 1 cent 
But the next 2, from 3rd campaign, came quickly and I was much happier after they happened 
03-05-2020 02:26 PM
#15
olympian (Member)
1 thing that 'worries' me.
I spent $17.3 on PropellerAds
But Binom shows only $11.33 spent
Shouldn't those numbers be much closer?
03-06-2020 01:16 AM
#16
tleagle (Member)
Is this something that Binom support can help you with? Did you ask them? You've gone close to a week with no resolution. I can't offer any help myself, but just know I'm paying attention and hoping it works out for you.
Also, I'm curious about your conversions. Did you do the $1 Guide? I had several more conversions in my first campaign and spent only $4. I'm not past selecting the offers yet, so no judgement. I'm only asking what to expect. Were the offers suggested by your network AM?
03-06-2020 05:23 AM
#17
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
olympian
1 thing that 'worries' me.
I spent $17.3 on PropellerAds
But
Binom shows only $11.33 spent
Shouldn't those numbers be much closer?
That's probably the trafficloss.
The trafficsource shows the cost for all traffic they send you but
Binom can only show the cost for the traffic that arrived at the tracker.
In the campaign setup in Binom you can set a % for trafficloss to have more accurate stats.
03-06-2020 05:29 AM
#18
olympian (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
That's probably the trafficloss.
The trafficsource shows the cost for all traffic they send you but
Binom can only show the cost for the traffic that arrived at the tracker.
In the campaign setup in
Binom you can set a % for trafficloss to have more accurate stats.
Thanks!
So cases like this are normal, I should get used to this?
03-06-2020 05:41 AM
#19
olympian (Member)

Originally Posted by
tleagle
Is this something that
Binom support can help you with? Did you ask them? You've gone close to a week with no resolution. I can't offer any help myself, but just know I'm paying attention and hoping it works out for you.
Also, I'm curious about your conversions. Did you do the $1 Guide? I had several more conversions in my first campaign and spent only $4. I'm not past selecting the offers yet, so no judgement. I'm only asking what to expect. Were the offers suggested by your network AM?
Yes, they say my server location is too far away from my traffic GEO's.
So, it looks like that's something normal. I really had no idea what to expect.
I didn't do $1 Guide.
2 campaigns from Clickdealer where recommended by my AM. Actually she sent to me 20 campaigns,
and I chose 2. One of them had 2 conversions.
What to expect? Just follow the tutorial and test and you will have results, I'm sure!
03-06-2020 02:18 PM
#20
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
You shouldn´t confuse the kind of trafficloss you have.
| Propeller Ads clicks |
Spent |
Binom clicks |
Cost
(Binom) |
Clickdealer / Mobidea clicks |
| 4778 |
$1.014 |
4292 |
$0.76 |
2206 |
| 5234 |
$3.119 |
4516 |
$2.21 |
3029 |
That one doesn´t look that normal and should be checked.
For pops it´s normal to have higher trafficloss between trafficsorce and tracker.
But from tracker to CPA network there shouldn´t be so much loss.
And this one doesn´t look that suspicious although 35% is rather at the higher end.
I spent $17.3 on PropellerAds
But Binom shows only $11.33 spent
One more question, as far as I remember you come from Croatia.
Do you have a VAT number or do you have to pay VAT on Propeller?
When you don´t have one get one, otherwise you pay 20% VAT which basically automatically results in 20% lower ROI.
About the server location, when you use a good DNS service and a CDN then the location isn´t
that important compared to serving all files directly from your own server.
So do you use a CDN and DNS service already?
03-07-2020 08:38 PM
#21
olympian (Member)
THis is addictive, I don't have a campaign live for almost 2 days, and I don't like it 
I stopped them all, and I'm going further through next few lessons.
It looks like part of the problems with tracking will be solved when I setup landing pages
and some other things like CDN, it should load pages faster...
So that's one part of the solution, second part is VAT, and that's something I need to figure out.
Thanks, @twinaxe for mentioning that. I just thought that 20% of VAT is normal from PropellerAds, so
that's all included in my calculations.
I have VAT from my country, but I don't understand what happens, I will send my VAT ID to PropellerAds,
they won't charge me 20%, but I will still need to pay 25% to my country? I will ask my accountant about this.
That one doesn´t look that normal and should be checked.
For pops it´s normal to have higher trafficloss between trafficsorce and tracker.
But from tracker to CPA network there shouldn´t be so much loss.
And this one doesn´t look that suspicious although 35% is rather at the higher end.
I was thinking that I understand what is happening, but after reading quoted, I think that it will
take a little more time to get it.
Traffic loss from PropellerAds to
Binom isn't huge compared to loss from
Binom to network.
So from what I learned, it's very likely that it happens because of location of my tracker is far from
offer countries.
And it's very likely that when I create landing page and start using the suggestions about CDN and
everything else from few future lessons, those numbers will be closer..
What I'm doing now?
I already have VPN, so I used it to check the page of the offer. So for the first time, I can really
see the offer that converted for me 2 times..
While I'm connected to the VPN; I will also research and try to find the landing pages
some other people are using for my offer.
If you have any suggestions, how can I find what my competition is using for my
offer, I would appreciate that!
MY funds are limited, so I would like to postpone signing up for Adplexity account at this moment,
while I'm learning the basics.
Looks like this is my longest post

Looking forward to break this record sometime soon,
when I can share more stats with some results in green..
03-08-2020 01:59 PM
#22
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
I already have VPN, so I used it to check the page of the offer. So for the first time, I can really
see the offer that converted for me 2 times..
Be careful with VPNs when you check the offer pages.
Many offers block VPNs so that you get redirected to somewhere else instead of the real offer page.
Leadgens are more likely to work with VPNs but for example when you run carrier billing offers then you mostly get redirected to somewhere else.
If you have any suggestions, how can I find what my competition is using for my
offer, I would appreciate that!
Some time ago I posted
HERE a short guide about manual spying.
03-09-2020 07:14 AM
#23
olympian (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Some time ago I posted
HERE a short guide about manual spying.
Perfect, that's what I needed!
Every day I learn something new here
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