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How to spy cloaked campaigns / landers? (8)

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Hi guys,

I'm trying to figure it out but I can't really find the way. Is there any chance to check funnel from the beginning to the end on push?

I use SpyPush. I know that Adplexity is probably better but it's also more expensive and I already bought SpyPush for 3 months so I'd prefer to stick with it.

I see many campaigns with the same URLs (from tracker or some kind of protections) across even more GEOs. Different creatives, different verticals. But when I try to check it I always see some random offers or random websites like GearBest.

I tried to use VPN, I tried different URLs from SpyPush. I also tried to change some strings in the URLs. But nothing helped.

Should I just give up on trying to see these LPs/funnels? Or there's some way to check how it looks like?

Thanks!

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Spying on cloaked links can easy get complicated if not armed with a good set of residential IPs and proxies. Yet still there's a good chance for them to get detected, depending on how good a cloaker is.
That being said, reputable spy services like Adplexity invest a lot on bypassing such filters to get the results listed in their tools. Which also indicates their pricing.

In case you're not getting the desired results from the spy service you are using, maybe you need to find some good residential proxies to try browsing those pages by yourself.

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To check a real funnel from beginning to the end you first need to cloak your real connection so that you see the push ads that the people who are targeted by the campaign will see.

Next thing is the lander.
When the other affiliate is using a good cloaker it can be hard for you to follow the funnel any further.

Some cloakers can also hide from Adplexity, Geoedge, Empello and whatever.
Normal VPNs are also no problem at all for a good cloaker.

So when even such services can be cloaked there are not many options left for you.

You have better chances when the other affiliate only uses some simple redirect rules in the tracker like "IF country is ABC THEN redirect to real lander ELSE redirect to other lander".

I personally don´t put much work into such stuff.

I mean, on Adplexity I can sort by creatives that received most volume so that I can get a good idea about creatives that work.
Then I can also download my landers from there.

And for offers I would only check for very high payout offers where it can save lots of money when you know the exact offer that is used.

But usually getting an idea about creatives and landers is enough for me to fire up campaigns and test offers then.

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I use Hide My Ass. But I think it's not good enough if I still don't see correct landers? So it's cloaked mostly with detection of IP/proxies?

EDIT:
Okey, I get it now. Thanks for explanation twinaxe. I will try it that way and don't bother too much about spying so precisely.

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VPNs are one of the easier tasks for a cloaker so it mostly won´t help you much.

Not only, it depends on the settings.

When only a specific OS shall be allowed on the lander then you need to have that OS to see the lander.
When only a specific carrier shall be allowed on the lander then you need to have that carrier to see the lander.
When only a specific device brand shall be allowed on the lander then you need to have that device brand to see the lander.
When only a specific country shall be allowed on the lander then you need to have that country to see the lander.
...and so on and so forth...

The IP is an important thing to cloak but in the end it depends on the settings that the other affiliate uses.

So let´s say I use a very good cloaker and put in settings that only users from IT with Android on a Samsung device, Chrome or Samsung browser, 3G traffic from carrier TIM are allowed to see my lander.

Then just the correct IP won´t help, then you need to meet all of these requirements.

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Ahh, so yeah, it's definitely harder to uncloak campaign than I thought.

One last question about offers. I don't really see them in SpyPush too. In Adplexity it's better and easier to see what offer is under specific campaign? Or would you advise looking somewhere else (like in affiliate dashboards)?

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Yes, when a good cloaker is used it can be very hard.

I personally don´t even try to do so when it´s good cloaked, the time and energy is not worth it.

You have to imagine, when someone is able to hide from platforms like Adplexity, Empello or Geoedge then you would have to be better than these platforms.

And that can be pretty hard to accomplish

I don´t know Spypush so I can´t compare.

But on Adplexity you can filter for example by different CPA networks



This can help when you want to look for successful campaign on a specific network you are using.

But as you can see, there are also many results for "None" or "Unknown".

This happens when Adplexity doesn´t know the domain from the networks, when it´s cloaked or whatever.

But when you are ready for a bit detective stuff you still can find out more about the exact offers.

In Adplexity you can see the whole funnel of a campaign with all redirects.



I blurred out all affiliate info so that I don´t post anyones stuff here but you can see there is a tracking domain from a CPA network in the outgoing links.

With that info you often can identify the network and then find the exact offer the other affiliate is running.

Of course this only works with non cloaked campaigns, Adplexity can only give you the info it receives.

Let me know if it helps or if you have more questions about it.

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Cool, all is clear right now. Thanks! I used Adplexity when I started with native about year ago but there's much less cloaking there. But it looks like it's way more powerful than SpyPush where I usually see 2 links and in many cases they are cloaked/dead.

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