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Anyone banking from SEO in 2019? BRING SOME ACTIVITY HERE (16)


12-08-2019 04:31 AM #1 bonboq (Member)
Anyone banking from SEO in 2019? BRING SOME ACTIVITY HERE

I'm really interested in SEO and to build up sites, but it seems that the section of the forum is pretty inactive.
I'm making some decent money on different traffic, but interested in getting into SEO. Working on several site at the same time right now!


12-08-2019 09:08 AM #2 miprat (Member)

Do you have any experience in SEO?
I am interesting in building up sites too.
Hit me up on telegram @relax100procent
We can try to make something together or look for any helps/informations together


12-09-2019 05:32 AM #3 yimcheysatya (Member)

I'm also really want to work on SEO
my skype: live:d5f4158db0d9d251


12-09-2019 09:15 AM #4 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

I just got back from AWA a day ago and looks like quite a few people are actually exploring the options of building sites and doing some SEO again.

Even one of our mods, @erikgyepes is playing with something like this at the moment, care to share some details buddy?


12-09-2019 09:28 AM #5 manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

@servandosilva is also doing this constantly for quite some time, even had an interview with him where we touched on this topic


12-09-2019 09:52 AM #6 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by manu_adefy View Post
@servandosilva is also doing this constantly for quite some time, even had an interview with him where we touched on this topic
This one, right?


12-09-2019 09:56 AM #7 manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
This one, right?

Yep, also have a follow up with Empire Flippers that I have to post later today So SEO is still very much a thing marketers do, but it's not as glamorous these days.


12-09-2019 09:57 AM #8 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by manu_adefy View Post
Yep, also have a follow up with Empire Flippers that I have to post later today So SEO is still very much a thing marketers do, but it's not as glamorous these days.
Indeed, google still has "all the traffic" so whoever can get it is set to bank hard. It's just not as easy as it used to be... but what is, right?


12-12-2019 10:25 PM #9 bonboq (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by manu_adefy View Post
Yep, also have a follow up with Empire Flippers that I have to post later today So SEO is still very much a thing marketers do, but it's not as glamorous these days.
Does he have a journey, somewhere we could follow along. if he could start one on STM, it could be bring back some activity in the SEO journey subforum.


12-13-2019 09:44 AM #10 manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bonboq View Post
Does he have a journey, somewhere we could follow along. if he could start one on STM, it could be bring back some activity in the SEO journey subforum.
Hmm, he visits the forum regularly so maybe he sees this... He's also tagged in the thread so has a notification about it. Not sure he has time to write so much though. Last I talked to him, he has very busy with some personal life stuff and with working on his online marketing projects.


12-13-2019 09:48 AM #11 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by manu_adefy View Post
Hmm, he visits the forum regularly so maybe he sees this... He's also tagged in the thread so has a notification about it. Not sure he has time to write so much though. Last I talked to him, he has very busy with some personal life stuff and with working on his online marketing projects.
Yupm servando is quite busy, but would be great to get him back to post more I'm pretty sure we will meet at some conference in the future, so I will try to bribe him somehow


12-13-2019 10:38 AM #12 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

SEO mainly focussing on unique written content and incoming links to your website. If you lack one of these 2 it's hard to gain volume (unless you use a BH tactic). So start writing now, their is not limit when it comes to good, relevant, unique content. Use keywords you want people to find you on, but don' t exaggerate. Everyday you are not writing, you are missing out. Google needs to time to index, rank, optimize etc. Same as paid traffic, everyday you don't test new stuff, you are missing out.

With good content, good incoming links will appear after a while. People dig your content and link to your website, share your content etc. If you lack patience, don't start with SEO projects.


12-16-2019 03:50 PM #13 thepinkcat (Senior Member)

I'd argue SEO is really not worth it unless you need/want some consist money coming in each month. But even then it can take years(or at least a year) to reach a significant amount of consistent month-over-month earnings. The biggest verticals can make you a millionaire on SEO(casino, diet/pills, insurance, finance/credit cards/loans) but they're incredibly difficult to play in. Almost any other vertical is going to shave years off your life to ever hope to reach good money. Unless you can find a quick exploit but those kinds of SEO guys are a dime a million.

Aiming for $5k-$10k/mo with SEO is doable and a worthwhile side project just to have some $$ coming in. Trying to bring SEO up to $30k, $60k, $90k/mo will take exceptionally longer than you'd imagine(comparing to the #s you see on this forum... $1k/day, $2k/day $3k/day) and all we have in life is time. I still own some sites and do earn OK from them but I don't pursue this aggressively for this exact reason: time is more important. I'd much rather see money now than 5 years from now. I'd much rather know exactly what my ROI is, rather than guesstimate too. If you spend $5k per month on content + links for a website, what's your ROI there? Will it even turn a profit? This is very difficult to track on the SEO side. If you spend $5k on paid traffic you know exactly how much you made and you know when you're getting paid. The numbers just work out better and it's a clearer business model.

But perhaps the biggest reason I'd argue for paid traffic is that you control the volume. With SEO you cannot force Google to give you more traffic. You can build links and publish more content, but you are always at the whim of just waiting around until Google "gives in" and lets you get more volume. And likewise if you get hit with an update and lose traffic, there's no way to predict when you'll get the volume back. You have such little control over your traffic volume with SEO that it's easier to say you basically have no control over volume. That's not really a sound business model, and coupling that with the idea that SEO is also not super clear on profit/loss for a business model, it's certainly not superior to paid traffic IMO.

I'd wager that's why the SEO forum is kinda dead. It's just not the superior choice for a business model. It is definitely safer and cheaper to run, but if you want to do $100k/mo profit on just SEO it's gonna be rough. PBNs can get you there but you need to play in big boy verticals like web hosting, casino & finance. Running an Amazon affiliate site up to $100k/mo profit is going to take years, and even then it could get hit and you'd see earnings drop overnight. And you have no control over that traffic to get it back. Again I think it's great for side income but I would not base an entire marketing company on SEO unless already established in big vertical(s).

This thread also has some interesting points https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...r-free-traffic


12-16-2019 04:30 PM #14 lukeexperience (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stickupkid View Post
SEO mainly focussing on unique written content and incoming links to your website. If you lack one of these 2 it's hard to gain volume (unless you use a BH tactic). So start writing now, their is not limit when it comes to good, relevant, unique content. Use keywords you want people to find you on, but don' t exaggerate. Everyday you are not writing, you are missing out. Google needs to time to index, rank, optimize etc. Same as paid traffic, everyday you don't test new stuff, you are missing out.

With good content, good incoming links will appear after a while. People dig your content and link to your website, share your content etc. If you lack patience, don't start with SEO projects.
I think this really hits the point!
SEO is not dead, Google just became good at spotting good websites and bad websites.

So building "trash" websites to market a product is not doable anymore (not in a short time for sure).

On the other hand, if you are serious about what you are doing and you care about it, Google will help you fight your competition (in the case they are not offering good value).

SEO is probably not the best route for easy money, but it could be a very good way for "serious money".
You just have to deal with what you really want to do in your life, day by day (which is always part of the solution for so many different problems!).


12-17-2019 03:31 AM #15 erikgyepes (Moderator)

Hey guys,

sorry for late reply.

After AWA I went straight for a 1 week trip to Japan, but I'm back now!

As for SEO..

I started playing with it about 1 year ago, when my campaigns were a bit off and I wanted to explore some "new waters".

Eventually I built a review site, posted couple of articles and let it sit most of the year as my campaigns picked up again and was riding the push wave for the whole year

Anyway mid year I finally got out of Google's sandbox and started getting some traffic and also sales from Amazon.

It's nothing significant though, low $xxx profit/month, compared to $xx,xxx in paid traffic it's just a drop in the water.

But SEO is a long term game and it takes TIME, it's also all white hat and I built minimum backlinks.

I might start a follow along on this, if anyone would be interested let me know below.
I may updated it on like monthly basis or so as I plan to push this site more in 2020.

I know there are people making $xxxx-$xx,xxx a month, so there is definitely still money in it, it may be also more passive and stable (if algo update doesn't hit you), but as said it takes lot of patience and upfront investments to see some serious results.


12-17-2019 11:19 AM #16 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by erikgyepes View Post
I might start a follow along on this, if anyone would be interested let me know below.
I may updated it on like monthly basis or so as I plan to push this site more in 2020
Yup, definitely do that please


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