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CONTEST is open- $1k in prizes for your best ideas! (19)

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I am happy to announce the Buy a Click Once and Resell It a 1000 Times Best IDEA contest is OPEN.

I hope everyone has enjoyed and gotten value from my series of articles, How to Buy a Click Once and Resell it 1000 Times. Now it’s time for me to benefit from YOUR ideas.

Here’s how it will work. The links to my internal landing pages are posted below, and today I will start taking ideas for the FIRST of THREE ways to make money with these pages. Day after tomorrow, I will reveal the SECOND of the THREE ways to make money with these pages, and I will take ideas for that. Then I will reveal the FINAL (and strangest) way to make money from these pages, and I will take ideas for that for two more days.

Then the contest will be over, and I will reveal the winners out of ALL the ideas.

Best idea gets $500 from me and eternal glory.
Second best idea gets $300 from me and eternal glory.
Third best idea get $200 from and eternal glory.

Everyone gets to see ALL the ideas posted, so everyone on the forum wins. I choose the winners, announce them publicly, then I send the winners your awards.

To participate is simple. Review my landing pages below, then just reply to this post (or reply to a reply) with your idea for increasing my page RPM (higher clicks on the page and higher epc). Be as detailed as possible, and ALL ideas are on the table. Perhaps it’s a change in copy, perhaps it’s an introduction to an offer or a network with a kick ass offer (public or private) or a media buyer or seller. Perhaps it’s a change in site structure. Perhaps it’s a totally wild hare, out of the box idea. I want to hear them ALL.

Feel free to contact me privately, of course (skype is in signature, or PM me), but to compete for the prizes I do ask you share your ideas publicly on the forum so everyone can benefit.

Obviously I am here to get ideas and introductions that will make me money, but a robust, competitive discussion, a sharing of your ideas, will make a lot of people on the forum a lot of money too, so whatever your idea is, please share it by replying to this post.

Now, if you’re new to affiliate marketing, and feel like you have an idea, but might be worried that it is “stupid,” please post it. Some of the best ideas sometimes come from people new to an industry who don’t have the preconceived notions old vets do that have built up over the years. So, if you’re new, and you have an idea, share it- an idea will often spark other ideas.

Without further ado, here are the landing pages with brief descriptions- be sure to view them on both desktop AND mobile before submitting your ideas to increase page RPM. And don’t hold back, don’t be gentle, money is not made by being afraid of criticism and I surely am not.

Page 1 The Dating Page
Note: initial test produced a 51% on page click through rate.


https://effortlesscommunication.com/...@fudpucker.com

Placement 1: Casual Dating Offers
Placement 2: Casual Dating Offers disguised as mainstream dating
Position 3: Mainstream dating offers looking for serious relationship

Page 2 Stamina-ED-Enlargement Page
Note: initial test produced a 32% on page click through rate.

https://effortlesscommunication.com/...@fudpucker.com

Position 1: Increase Stamina
Position 2: Alleviate ED
Position 3: Male Enhancement- Enlargement

Page 3 International Dating Page
Note: initial test produced a 37% on page click through rate. Also, I may add the Monetizer push subscriber collection window to this page unless someone has a better one (I have my own and another on the other pages)

https://mensdailymotivation.com/home...@fudpucker.com

Position 1: Asian Dating
Position 2: Latina Dating
Position 3: Russian/Ukrainian dating

Page 4 Casual Dating/How to Get Laid Page
Note: initial test produced a 33% on page click through rate.

https://effortlesscommunication.com/...@fudpucker.com

Position 1: Casual Dating
Position 2: How to get laid (PUA)
Position 3: Be a better lover

The FIRST of THREE ways for me to make money with these pages is as straightforward as the day is long- find as many different relevant offers from networks as I can, write a lot of different pre-sell pages, rotate these presell pages (that open in new windows when the visitor clicks on a placement), and rotate offers on the pre-sell pages to keep fresh pitches in front of the audience. When a visitor to my internal pages clicks on a placement or banner, they are presented with a url rotator that rotates a lot of different pre-sell pages and offers.

To get traffic to these pages, all I do is dump a lot of targeted traffic into my opt in email list, then send one email a day for each of these pages (four emails a day), with the promise of a new picture (horny guys love pictures of women). I have lots of pictures that randomly rotate every day, so guys will always see something new. If they see the same pics every day they tune out, so the hook to keep them coming back is they get to see new pics, much like a men’s magazine has new pictures for every issue, different pics on every page. If you refresh the pages, you’ll see the pictures change. Sometimes there are repeats, but the whole list doesn’t visit each page every day (sadly), so usually visitors see a new picture.

My traffic is always male, US Geo, 70% of it older than 45. These are very horny guys and they WANT to meet women in person and get laid. They’re not interested in Cam offers or phone sex or dirty chat, they grew up pre-internet and want to meet women in PERSON. The offer categories on all four of these pages have come from both surveying and from offer categories the list has responded well to in the past.

So, let’s hear your ideas for my FIRST way to make money with these pages, how to maximize page RPM by running offers or improving page design. If you are a network reading this and you have relevant offers you think would perform well on these pages to this traffic, please contact me and let me know. Remember, when a visitor clicks on a placement, I can pass email addresses to an offer or landing page, so these are very valuable clicks for offer owners who understand email marketing and list segmentation.

The offer owner isn’t just getting clicks and conversions, they are getting email addresses they can continue to market to, AND they are getting the exact interest of those email addresses (segmentation). Some offer owners may be interested in a CPC deal instead of a CPA deal since with MY clicks, they get segmented email addresses. For smart offer owners, these placements are a vehicle to building a highly targeted email list.

To contact me directly, PM me, hit me up on Skype at john.alanis1

BUT, please share your ideas below for everyone to see, I will choose the winners based on publicly posted ideas. That way the winners will get money, public recognition, and eternal glory. And everyone reading will get great advice, nothing like a competition to get the ideas going.

Even if I focus on the second way to make money with these pages (which I will reveal day after tomorrow), I will still retain one or two of my internal pages for the first way, running offers. So, networks and private offer owners, I need as many Asian, Russian, Latina, Foreign, Mature, and Casual US Geo dating offers as I can get, plus ED, Enlargement, Stamina, and anything else older US geo guys are interested in. CBD is interesting too.

Let’s hear everyone’s ideas for improving the RPM of the above landing pages!

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I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. Are you pre-filling the offers' email input box with the users email address? I havn't done this before, but I'm guessing with API(?)

Or do you mean that you are passing all the clicks' email addresses as extensions in the url?

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Assuming you have a strong brand/insignia/logo that the men on your list know, like and trust, put that at the top of your landing pages to give them a higher level of trust/confidence in the page and your recommendations to click. Same if you have a brand color scheme or also layout, match them for congruency. The alternative is determine your best converting offers and match their colors and layouts for more congruency/lower friction after the click. In each of the sections for each offer, consider adding buttons for men to click, this gives people more of a reason to click. Make the 'Photo 1: Click This Pic' clickable so clicking it scrolls to photo 1, same for photo 2, etc. so visitors don't get frustrated that clicking something that looks clickable doesn't do anything and make them less likely to click other places that are styled similarly.

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John, would you post the email copy that leads to this page? My initial thought was there were so many words on the page that I didn’t care to read because all I wanted to see were the pictures of hot half naked women. Have you tried full nude pics? How do they perform? What if you made the pics thumbnails instead and clicking on them opens a pop under in addition to the larger pic? You could put more pics as thumbnails on the page this way with more open pop unders sitting in their browser.

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Also, what do your numbers look like after the first visit (suck out)? I’m close to your market’s age and my thought is that once I figured out that clicking on the image just takes me to another site I wouldn’t do it after the first time. I’d probably come back for the pics though once I saw they changed every visit.

The pics themselves didn’t relate to the offers for me. It felt jarring. Have you tried pics from the offer sites to tie it together? The offers on the page would need to be wildly different from each other to have pics that felt different which fit the offers.

What if they qualify themselves each time they visit? Like the sweeps landers that ask a series of questions before you are sent to the offer, but in your case they would be sent to a page with thumbnails to click which matched their mood and got them further revved up for the offers that pop under some of the thumbs. Questions like ‘girl next door’ or ‘dirty slut’?

Hope the brain dump helps. More to come as I think about this longer.

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Well, I dont like the color scheme at the all Landing Pages. For me it does not look like a trustable ones. And I would change printing type and how the headings are arranged. Too much information and almost all in one size, which distracts my attention and does not allow me to concentrate on the most important.

"Page 1 The Dating Page" above the other LPs more or less gives me an idea of what I'm looking for here. I mean, as soon as I enter the page, the phrase “Three types of women” appears in my eye, the printing type is highlighted and then I see the word "meet". In one second my brain compares everything and I understand that I can find a woman here, so if I'm interested I’ll scroll further. ( Cause for instance at the other LPs I am a bit confused, too much information with no clear accents as for me, so I want to leave) . I am a lazy consumer of the 21st century, even if I'm 50 years old. I want to get everything fast and don’t want to read much, especially if my wife can enter the room at any moment! So if phrases under headlines like "Photo 1: Click This Pic To Meet For Sex Only" were clicable and led directly to the offers, I believe it would add more conversions.
Plus, geez, I dont like how the "Click This Pic" is highlighted, cause as for me its cheap and remind me how I emphasize something with a marker when I read. A larger and more color-coded word would look much better. And I would do the same with headings near photos.

The second and fourth page are the least attractive for me as a consumer. For instance, at the Page 4, as soon as I enter here, my eyes fall on " Click my photo" and "Photo 1 or 3". Then I dazzled and dont really want to read "meet very horny girls" part, which I believe should be the main part, so as the word "to get laid". Hope you understand what I mean!
Therefore I would definitely work on the accents, so that within two seconds it would be possible to figure out what this is all about and would make it stylish a bit in terms of colors to get a more selling option. Nowadays it seems to me especially important!

I don't remember exactly in which book I read that, but it said, that it is important to use no more than two fonts for layouts, as this makes it cheaper and less quality. I stick to that rule.
So I woud probalby work on the bottom line and banners!

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Hi John! Nice to meet you.

My quick intro: I also ran on POF for a long time... However after POF went down I focused on the front end of the funnel - buying traffic and improving the roi. I dabbled in emailing dating offers, but it's mostly been just buying traffic and sending users to offers.
Its interesting to see how our paths diverged. -Jack


1) I LOVE the setup where you have new pictures per visit. Also the push optin is very nice.
2) I'm curious that you are using long form pages. I tested something similar versus shorter pages, and the shorter ones outperformed. Also, as you may have noticed, the offer pages have switched to simple questionnaires with minimal on the page at a time. However I have not tested different page lengths for email traffic, so if long form have done better for you, great!
3) I'd definitely switch to amateur pictures
4) I'd place the pictures above the fold and make a large clear CTA button also above the fold. These two changes have done about 20%-30% higher lpctr for us recently (in another vertical)
5) You can deep-link to some of your affiliate offers, so that after the male member registers, they will be directed to the actual profile page that you had on your lp. Here is an example for Maria on Amolatina : http://anastasiaaffiliate.go2cloud.o...%2311238348231

[^That is my affiliate link, but it is a cps offer, so I will not get paid if you sign up. It's just for demo purposes]
6) Avoid saying "local women" for the Asian, Russian, Latin offers. From my understanding this hurts quality and users get upset.

Here is a sketch of how I would make the page:

NOTES:
-I'd make the MEET ME button flashing/gif.
-The "Maria" is a pic of the actual Maria from the link

FULL DISCLOSURE: I have not tested the deep link method, but have a feeling that it would produce good quality and sales.

What's cool - many sites that do deep links have a preview of the girl on the sign up page.

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Hmmmmmmm, can you elaborate on the pop UNDERS (along with anyone else who is familiar with pop unders)?

The question I have is, when a user clicks on one of my pictures can BOTH a new offer window open AND a pop under spawn at the same time? Because if that is the case, I can use pop unders to sell segmented email addresses via curl scripts to smart marketers who buy data or, at the very least, have a second offer spawned as a pop under for the same click and some users might come back to it later.

If this is possible, please let me know…it is essentially selling a click twice at the same time. That could be a BIG IDEA.


In answer to your specific questions, the long copy headline is there to start getting the visitors oriented to specificoffers, not just to look at a picture. Think of this page as a page in a men's magazine with both ads and pictures- the audience goes to the magazine to see the pics, and the magazine makes money selling ads to the audience. Same concept here, just online.

Full nudes don’t work as well to my list, they prefer suggestive/provocative photos.

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Ahhhh, two very good ideas, the "scrolling" (which I thought about but didn't do, will get my webmaster to implement it immediately) and the buttons, guys do love to click buttons. I'll combine this with @jack01 's "flashing button" idea, although I may make it more of a "glowing button" to get some movement, but not too much.

Orange seems to be a good button color (Amazon trained everyone on it), do you guys have any good button colors/designs that have worked well you'd like to post (I see @jack01's in this thread)? That would be most helpful.

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Buy-now orange is usually best for me, but another good color to test is Facebook blue (#3b5998) or a close variation of it if you are paranoid about FB like I am. And also test double right angle, html code (»), after your CTA text.

I realize most of your traffic is coming from email, but if a lot of those email lists are generated from a particular traffic source, emulate the button color of that source to drive higher ctr.

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Yes this can be done using javascript and html. You just make it so that when they click the button or link it opens a new window with your main (continuation) offer and at the same time you redirect your existing window to some secondary offer so that when they close the new window (which is usually the one on top) they'll see the secondary offer.

Though keep in mind you'll have to test this out a bit as from my experience you get a fall off in conversion to the main offer because of issues in which the person won't reach the main offer (think some adblocks will stop the new windows from opening but I think there are ways to test whether your window opens succesfully or not but I haven't looked at it in detail). From my own experience it largely depends whether your secondary offer can compensate for it.

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Hey Jack!

Here’s the reason for the long form pages: think of them as pages in a men’s magazine, where the audience is created by the email to the list. If I was going for a straight sale I would definitely use the pages you suggest, but the purpose of these longer pages is to deliver on the promise of new photos, AND to begin to orient them towards offer topics.

When they click on the photos, the questionnaire pre-sell pages you describe will (eventually) come up- I just have straight offer links on them now. I’ve almost finished one up based on Robert Cialdini’s book “Pre-Suasion” (which is just as good as Influence, hint, hint, hint), and once it’s operational, I’ll implement it. So, when the visitor clicks the photo, that pre-sell page in the format you just described will come up.

If you have any sources of amateur photos I can use, man, that’d be great- I only agree with you 100% about those, but I don’t want to start ripping them from the internet and run into trouble. So if you have a source, let me know.

On one of my landers, the blue page:

https://effortlesscommunication.com/...@fudpucker.com

…I did spend a lot of time getting the pic above the fold, and you are right, it dramatically increase ctr. On the other pages, I want the visitor to see the headline first, to begin to orient themselves towards offer topics instead of just clicking pics. The pics are promised in the email, so they know they are there, but I want to start moving them from picture viewing mode to offer responding mode, so making them scroll to see the pic after delivering the headline starts to accomplish that.

Love the flashing button idea, will look to implement that, get some movement on the page. Excellent idea.

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very cool. thanks for the tip

You should be able to use the pics inside the websites that you promote. Everytime I asked for permission I got the 'ok'. Apparently the user agreement that the women agree to allows the pictures to be used for advertising purposes.
You can manually download them or there are free programs that you can use that will allow you to download the entire website, like https://www.httrack.com ...
Then sort through your download for the pics. It's not as striaghtforward as it sounds because you do have to register as a member on the dating site to get access to the pics, and then have the download program be able to log in. Sometimes there are bugs and they won't be able to get the sites, but there are also other free programs you can try. In the end its worth it as you'll end up with 1,000's of pics


Other sources for pics:
https://www.pexels.com/
https://unsplash.com/

Most of my pics are from dating site downloads, or from Shutterstock (not very cheap)

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Excellent advice. All the pics I use are are old Shutterstock pics from when you could download 25 a day for a monthly fee, but there are definitely some good ones on the the sites you mentioned. I just searched on "sexy women," "bikinis," and "lingerie" and some great pics came up...tough work, but necessary. My webmaster will be highly disappointed to be tasked with going through them every day to find new ones.

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You can also search for 'cam models' pics... These tend to be more amateur looking and the women are in a pose implying that they are ready to chat.
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So throwing my suggestion into the hat, some of them may be mentioned but this is my rationale for it as well.

Overall the focus is on the fact that you know your demographic which isn't always the case when you buy traffic:

1 - Add retargetting pixels into your landers and CTA buttons so that you can retarget them in other traffic sources that don't provide this information
You know your demographic is older, horny, married etc. So maybe you could try re-targeting on Google for Christmas present idea to buy for their wife (lol since they are married right?) beause as far as I know you can't target "married" people in Google. I don't do much Google so not 100% sure on this but that is the general idea.

2 - Selling your push list direct or running it yourself
You have information on your push list subscribers which isn't always the case. As such I think your push list is worth more than the average one and so you're better off trying to monetize it yourself or negotiate a better rate with an affiliate running on push that specialize in dating as well since platforms like Monetizer are trying to maximize revenue for the average push list.

These are standard gimmick lander suggestions focusing more on changing up the funnel than just changing colors/creatives:

3 - Pop up (in page) after X seconds
Firstly this is about those pop ups that aren't really a new window but its within the page to grab attention. Usually ecommerce shops use it to acquire subs for their newsletter and it is launched if you spend X number of seconds on the page. You could use it to pop up an additional image of a girl that says something like "Mary would like to connect with you now"

4 - Pop up (in page) on hover - only works on desktop
Similar to the point above but instead you would make it so that when their mouse hovers above something an in page pop up will appear. How you can use this is either when they hover over an image of a girl you can make it seem more interactive by a pop up with another photo of the girl "connecting with you" or alternatively you can try to put it as an invisible section near the top of the screen so that as they finish reading and go towards the close browser button they will hover over it and trigger a "hail mary attempt pop up.

5 - Backbutton redirect
You know they are horny men so make it so that after they reach the lander if they click back you take them to another lander of yours. For example your dating page 3's (for international dating) back button can lead to dating page 1 since that one is more universal (or maybe to dating page 2 the stamina one etc.). You can chain it together so they never really finish your landers until they close the browser.

6 - Open up multiple offers
So someone else mentioned this already so I don't want to take credit and I can confirm it can be done. But a spin on this could be that instead of the landing page opening 2 offers you could start even at the email level where it redirects to a blank page that then opens 2 pages. Reason I think you need to do this is because emails usually don't run javascript so you will need to go to this proxy page that can execute the javascript.


Surprised myself on how long this ended up being. Hopefully this will help me acheive eternal glory.

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btw... your push optin would fit very well with a deep-link offer.

If you find an offer that has the deeplink function, go to the website, find a member who has good, clickable pictures, and download all of them.
Then in your push optin use a good pic from this member.

Then send out a series of push messages with the different pics of the same member. You are delivering what you promised and your first lp ties in very well to the offer.

In your followup pushs, you can suggest that the user meets and messages you. And of course the link will be deeplink to the members profile.

Like I mentioned, I havnt tested this...So deeplinking could be a complete flop...but perhaps it'll inspire new ideas.

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Hi,

Was planning on replying ages ago but didn´t get around it until now.

I went through your landers and here is some feedback that you can apply to all of your landers.

1. White space

Some of your landers have a lot of space between the different images and headlines. Try to remove some of that so that users have to scroll less to see the next section.


2. Fonts

I really don´t like the fonts you use. The fonts you are using make your landers look very amateurish and not very trustworthy. They make them look like some sort of Powerpoint presentation given by some teenagers in highschool.

There is a lot of science into fonts and conversions, have a look at some of these sources:

- https://www.klood.com/blog/web-desig...te-conversions
- https://marketingland.com/everything...ization-100113
- https://www.crazyegg.com/blog/web-fonts-conversion/


3. The overall look of your pages

I really don´t like the overall look of your pages. They come across as very amateuristic and don´t really make me want to interact with them so next to the white spaces and fonts I would just try out a couple of completely different layouts which are a bit more in line with what pages look like these days.


4. Page speed

It might not make much of a difference to your conversion rate but from my point of view, a landing page or website should load as fast as possible.

Speeding up a page doesn´t cost anything and can be done in minutes so why not do it? Every little helps...

Speed up your HTML by simply copy/pasting it on this website: http://htmlcompressor.com/
Speed up your images by using an image compressor such as Kraken: https://kraken.io/

This is a completely free fix and could add to your conversions. Especially for visitors with slow internet.


5. Images

The images of the women on your landing pages are clearly models and / or stock pictures. Try changing this for more next door / natural girls.

From my experience in running dating campaigns using natural girls works a lot better than professional models. Men can relate to them more and feel that they have more of a chance that they can actually get with them.

This does not mean that you need to use images of ugly women, just women who don't look like models.

There are several websites where you can buy image packs with this type of women.


6. Make a click work twice

I use a little script on some of my landers which opens two links when someone clicks.

By using this you can basically sell a click twice.. One offer is opened in a new window, Another offer opens in the current window.

I would not use this on all the links on your page but you could try to do this on the last offer/link on your page.

You can test different types of offers here. You said that guys are not into webcams but there are many other things you can sell them. I will list some of my ideas at the bottom of my post.


7. Back button redirect

Obvious one. Add a back button offer to your page and try to squeeze out some extra conversions.

Some guys might not be interested in hooking up at the moment and click away but they might want to watch some good porn on a paysite or see a girl stripping on webcam.

As they are older men, they should have plenty of cash to spend on stuff like this.


8. Retargeting via a Pixel

I am surprised that you don´t have any pixels on your page. You can do two things:

- Use a pixel to retarget visitors yourself with related offers on Native, Facebook etc..Some of the adult ad-networks even have this option.
- Rent out a pixel on your page to Facebook marketers who offer products that might be of interest to people on your list. Rent it out for a fixed fee per month and let them target the audience.


9. Push different offers, think out of the box

I think you are limiting yourself by only targeting your audience with ED and Dating offers. Your audience (Men over 45 with high testosterone and big wallets) are an amazing audience to market to.

From my point of view, you can sell them so much more via your emails, push subscriptions, retargeting pixels and links.

- You said they are not interested in camsites but why not give it a try?
- Premium porn sites are not that popular amongst affiliates these days, but who knows?
- As they are older men, what sort of health issues do they face? Try to sell them some hair loss supplements for an example.
- Something completely out of the box.. Sex holidays and Sex cruises. They exist and I am sure that there are affiliate programs for them.
>> Plenty of action on these holidays so it seems: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/841562...ry-sex-resort/
- Gambling? I can imagine some of them might like a bet. Sign them up on a rev-share deal.

10. Align your dating offers with the interest of your audience

Have a look at this great overview from the Pornhub Year in review article:

https://cs.phncdn.com/insights-stati...categories.png

When looking at your age group they seem very interested in stuff like Japanese women, Milfs, Lesbians, Trans etc..

Try to find some Japanese Milf dating offers for an example.. Or maybe Trans offers. You can really target your offers to your audience.

You can of course also align your images with the preferences of the target group. Milfs, women with big tits etc... Not just an image of an asian girl but be specific and use a Japanese woman.

Of course these are what people search for on Pornhub but I really think this also translates to what they want in real life.

Read the full PH report here, it contains some very valuable information: https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2018-year-in-review

Another thing you can do is use parameters on your landing page, you can do this with any tracker and you can show things like:

- date
- city
- region

This should also boost your conversion rates.. You can add stuff like:

> Our top three dating offers in {city} for {date}
> Fuck a milf tonight {date} in the {region} area.

There are lot more dynamic parameters you can use.

So in a nutshell...

- Work on the design of your pages. Test different layouts, fonts, and images.
- Speed up your pages.
- Try to squeeze as much out of a visitor as possible (Backbutton, Double links, Pixels)
- Get creative when it comes to the offers you promote.

Good luck and hit me up if you want to discuss.

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