Crazy Experience With Top Push Spy Tool - Advice Please [emoji848]! (14)
So I just subscribed to a top spy tool for push and I must say I’m stunned & confused to say the least:
1. Whilst I am new to CPA and STM (hope I’ve posted this in the right place) I am not new to advertising and I am used to metrics like clicks/impressions/visits/unique users for example to measure performance/traffic; but this spy tool I subscribed to (not sure if it’s classy to say which one it is publicly on here?) uses hits as it’s main metric, and my understanding of "hits" is the total number of files the user's browser loads when that user requests that page from the Web server, so it seems to me a strange metric to use when measuring traffic; I’ve never used the term hits when measuring traffic before as 1 page impression could = 6 hits or more on the page for example, so it begs the question is my definition wrong when it comes to spy tools or even CPA?
2. The next thing I’m confused about is: I was searching globally for the most trafficked, affiliate only ads/landing pages and what came back was 9,000 (ish) hits for the push ad with the most traffic on the internet, for the last 10 days! This seems very low, especially considering the current popularity of push ads which also begs the question: Is this information completely accurate or am I just using the software incorrectly -, although it seems really user-friendly and straight forward?
3. I’m also confused because the ads and landers I’ve seen so far don’t seem very good! This begs the next question is the marketing material I’m seeing the genuine article or is all the really good stuff being cloaked?
4. Which begs the next question: If so how do I get to see the real stuff?
Is everyone else who is subscribed to push ad spy tools getting something similar or know why I’m getting this?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Grateful to anyone taking the time to answer.
~ Thanks HC
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Hey there,
Hits in spy tools means how often they saw particular ad/campaign, not how much total traffic campaign received (as it would be impossible to know that).
However, more hits in spy tools also means more traffic in "real life".
If you're concerned that spy tools are not "seeing" cloaked landers, use a VPN (for wifi) and/or Adplexity carrier (for carriers) and browse to some of the publisher sites and click around or refresh to trigger new ads.
Also: Some landers don't SEEM like they would work well, but you never know until you actually do some split-testing. Data never lies.
Amy
Originally Posted by kinghustler
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Originally Posted by vortex
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Originally Posted by harvcam
Cloaking really hides a lot of the good LPs, but in the real world, some affiliate always eventually finds these cloaked ones and then they leak into the spytools. It's always like this, sometimes it takes a few days, sometimes months, but they always leak
If I can give you a piece of advice, do not go just by the popularity/hits, look for LPs that appear to not be that popular... quite often, these are the good ones, but since they were or still are protected by cloakers, not that many affiliates had a chance to copy them yet, hence their lower popularity
Originally Posted by matuloo
Cloaking really hides a lot of the good LPs, but in the real world, some affiliate always eventually finds these cloaked ones and then they leak into the spytools. It's always like this, sometimes it takes a few days, sometimes months, but they always leak
If I can give you a piece of advice, do not go just by the popularity/hits, look for LPs that appear to not be that popular... quite often, these are the good ones, but since they were or still are protected by cloakers, not that many affiliates had a chance to copy them yet, hence their lower popularity
For such great useful advice
I will look at things differently now.
Love STM!
Very much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by matuloo
Cloaking really hides a lot of the good LPs, but in the real world, some affiliate always eventually finds these cloaked ones and then they leak into the spytools. It's always like this, sometimes it takes a few days, sometimes months, but they always leak
If I can give you a piece of advice, do not go just by the popularity/hits, look for LPs that appear to not be that popular... quite often, these are the good ones, but since they were or still are protected by cloakers, not that many affiliates had a chance to copy them yet, hence their lower popularity
It's extremely easy to use and an incredible tool, but when you start out it's hard to tell what is successful vs not, because you haven't gotten used to the nuances of everything.
For instance, on Adplexity Native, Outbrain ads show up way more than do Taboola one's, not because Outbrain has more volume, but just because they have a greater variety of image crop's used in their widgets and therefore Adplexity picks each one up as a different ad.
Similarly, you'll have international Revcontent campaigns that may be doing 20$ a day as a 'penny bid' scattershot deal, but look massive because of all the countries targeted. Whereas you could have another Revcontent campaign only targeting the US and only 5 sites, but those are the biggest sites on the network and the campaign is actually massive, it just looks tiny because the spiders only catch a few ad/site/geo combos from it.
So yeah, best thing to do is just spend time searching on there figuring out what you can see, and slowly take note of the different patterns, etc
It's sort of an art and a science, if that makes sense, rather than just a science
Originally Posted by vortex
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Originally Posted by jack_l
It's extremely easy to use and an incredible tool, but when you start out it's hard to tell what is successful vs not, because you haven't gotten used to the nuances of everything.
For instance, on Adplexity Native, Outbrain ads show up way more than do Taboola one's, not because Outbrain has more volume, but just because they have a greater variety of image crop's used in their widgets and therefore Adplexity picks each one up as a different ad.
Similarly, you'll have international Revcontent campaigns that may be doing 20$ a day as a 'penny bid' scattershot deal, but look massive because of all the countries targeted. Whereas you could have another Revcontent campaign only targeting the US and only 5 sites, but those are the biggest sites on the network and the campaign is actually massive, it just looks tiny because the spiders only catch a few ad/site/geo combos from it.
So yeah, best thing to do is just spend time searching on there figuring out what you can see, and slowly take note of the different patterns, etc
It's sort of an art and a science, if that makes sense, rather than just a science Sent from my iPhone using STM Forums mobile app
Originally Posted by jack_l
It's extremely easy to use and an incredible tool, but when you start out it's hard to tell what is successful vs not, because you haven't gotten used to the nuances of everything.
For instance, on Adplexity Native, Outbrain ads show up way more than do Taboola one's, not because Outbrain has more volume, but just because they have a greater variety of image crop's used in their widgets and therefore Adplexity picks each one up as a different ad.
Similarly, you'll have international Revcontent campaigns that may be doing 20$ a day as a 'penny bid' scattershot deal, but look massive because of all the countries targeted. Whereas you could have another Revcontent campaign only targeting the US and only 5 sites, but those are the biggest sites on the network and the campaign is actually massive, it just looks tiny because the spiders only catch a few ad/site/geo combos from it.
So yeah, best thing to do is just spend time searching on there figuring out what you can see, and slowly take note of the different patterns, etc
It's sort of an art and a science, if that makes sense, rather than just a science
Originally Posted by jack_l
It's extremely easy to use and an incredible tool, but when you start out it's hard to tell what is successful vs not, because you haven't gotten used to the nuances of everything.
For instance, on Adplexity Native, Outbrain ads show up way more than do Taboola one's, not because Outbrain has more volume, but just because they have a greater variety of image crop's used in their widgets and therefore Adplexity picks each one up as a different ad.
Similarly, you'll have international Revcontent campaigns that may be doing 20$ a day as a 'penny bid' scattershot deal, but look massive because of all the countries targeted. Whereas you could have another Revcontent campaign only targeting the US and only 5 sites, but those are the biggest sites on the network and the campaign is actually massive, it just looks tiny because the spiders only catch a few ad/site/geo combos from it.
So yeah, best thing to do is just spend time searching on there figuring out what you can see, and slowly take note of the different patterns, etc
It's sort of an art and a science, if that makes sense, rather than just a science Sent from my iPhone using STM Forums mobile app
As a guy that run a fuck ton of push (over 500,000 spend this year)
i can tell you, what works best for us is to have a general angle as the push ad (ie: 1 weird trick to weight loss) and then some clickbaity images
and test multiple landers on the backend
matching the push angle to the lander, is not that effective since they don't allow celebs on the ads usually
every single geo is also different, so its worth spying by geo, and also breaking it down by carrier
what a lot of people do is they will push ads to people on specific carrier, branding it as such, so to build trust, and then send them to their sweeps LP.
u should just take 5 geos, take 2 landers from each geo and try a low payout niche for starters to get some experience
pretty doesn't work well in aff marketing, ugliest landers work better same with ads in most cases (again speaking from experience)
Originally Posted by iAmAttila
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