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Journey of Vortex' 40-Day Tutorial 2019 (Binom) (30)

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Hello Everybody,

My name is Pratik. If you like to check brief about me then go with below post.
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...26%23128591%3B

Day 1: Applying to Various Networks

• Mobipium (Approved)
• Mobidea (Approved)
• ClickDealer (Approved)
• Gotzha (Approved)

With follow $1 Guide by Vortex and I have made good revenue with mobipium.

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthread.php?45732-%26%23128591%3B-1-Guide-My-First-Profitable-Campaign-%26%23128591%3B

So with that reference I get approved from ClickDealer and Gotzha Network, Thanks Amy for $1 amazing guide.

Days 2-8: Picking Offers - a)Mobidea, b)Clickdealer, c)Gotzhaand, d)Mobipium (from my side)



Day 9: Setting Up Tracking on Binom



Day 10: Setting Up a Campaign on PropellerAds - ACTION (Binom Version)



Day 11: First Lesson on Testing & Optimization (Binom Version)



It's -100% ROI not get any conversion, Is there any issue with tracking setup or other ?

also I am not able to match my tracker and PropellerAds clicks with my gotzha affiliate network.
All are different.



PropellerAds Impressions : 34,899
Binom Tracker Clicks : 32,735
Gotzha Clicks : 24,647

Why all are different ?

Due to that I didn't get any conversion ?

Please help me with that.

Thanks.

Pratik

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I also try propellar ads but didnt get any conversion .. i try dating offers from Mobidea and from mylead

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u need to use landing pages for the conversions to take place and starting of the tutorial only explains the basic model of placing a direct linking campaign

go through the training and at day 19 u will be setting up landers and running the campaign i hope u will see your results sooner

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Hi @skalathiya! Happy to see a follow-along from you after seeing your $1 guide post! Thanks for sharing your results!

Thanks for posting all those stats! Tip for the future: To make images appear nice and big, you can upload them to imgur.com, copy the "bbcode" link and paste that directly into an STM post. If you have trouble let me know and I'll do a step-by-step for you.

Regarding the lack of conversions - unfortunately it's normal. Most offers won't convert nearly as well as that mobipium push smartlink.

I wouldn't worry too much about your tracking setup. You're running one offer (correct?) and the traffic is showing up in your Gotzha stats for the right offer. The only other thing you'll need to confirm, is whether the conversions are posting back to Binom successfully - but you won't be able to verify this until you've made the first conversion.

So keep an eye on your affiliate network stats. When you see at least one conversion, check Binom to make sure you can see the conversion(s) there too. If you can't, then it means your postback hasn't been set up correctly.

This type of direct-linking campaign (i.e. without using landing pages) is very good practice, but I wouldn't recommend running too many more. Maybe run one more offer in this way if you like, but after that, please proceed with the rest of the tutorial, where you'll learn how to use landing pages.

And do remember that we have a Landing Page Depository where you can get some free landers. Ultimately you should take out a subscription to Adplexity, but if you're just starting out and don't have the funds, the free landers gives you something to work with.

Regarding the differences in impressions/clicks from propeller > Binom > Gotzha - it's normal and is known as clickloss. This article by @matuloo explains this topic well:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...finitive-guide

The clickloss from binom to gotzha looks a bit excessive. There are 2 possible causes I could think of:

1)It can be because binom redirection is slow. Make sure the hosting you have binom installed on has adequate resources.

2)The offer is loading too slow. This can be because the aff network's redirection speed is slow, or because the offer site is loading slow. I wouldn't do anything about this, because direct-linking to offers is just a practice exercise. But in the future, when you're running offers "for real", when you see that an offer has excessive clickloss compared to your other offers, you can notify your AM so they can look into it and maybe do something about it (e.g. let the offer owner know to optimize their website speed).

Great start! Looking forward to more updates!




Amy

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Thanks for advise. bbcode link done, also I will take care for future post.

Yes. correct.

Thanks. I'll verify that after get conversion.


Thanks. I have already purchased Adplexity mobile subscription.

Thanks for your help, much appreciated.

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Day 13: Setting Up a Campaign In PopAds



suddenly 1 of my campaigns stopped getting click, is there and traffic source issue?

PopAds Campaign Analysis:




PopAds Campaign Summary:



Question: Can you please explain popads analysis and summary part? Do I need to change bid referring that? How can I refer that?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

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Day 16: Picking a Vertical and Applying to Offers

I chose the Sweepstakes vertical as per the lesson.

for the best converting offer I have contacted my affiliate manager but after promoting that offer I haven't get any best result.


Question: How can I find best converting offer from adplexity?

Some clickdealer offer I can identify through landing page link but not able to identify other affiliate network & offer name.

In some landing page there is no any name of affiliate network and "c=" parameter.

I have read through all thread of adplexity but not get any solution.

So please help me with best way of finding affiliate network and offer name through adplexity?


Thanks.

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Day 17: Downloading landers from Adplexity



Some downloaded landing page showing direct offer page, I don't know how it's protected.

Question: How can I protect my landing page from spytool?

Please help me with that.

Thanks.

P.S. Now I am Using Voluum Tracker not Binom.

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Day 18: Setting Up Hosting and CDN

Question 1: I can run .html pages in Amazon S3 but how can I run php lander?
Question 2: How can use amazon cloudfront? Do I need to host my Images and CSS files there?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

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Day 19-25: Fixing Up Landers

Day 26: Optimizing Landers for Speed

Amazing guidance too long journey

Thanks.

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Day 27: Introduction to Offer+Lander Testing
Day 29: Verifying Tracking Etc.
Day 30-32: Testing Landers and Offers

I have run some campaigns one offer with multi lander but not able to make it green for long.

Here is the journey of till now.





Question 1: If from spy tools I found best converting lander, offer & traffic source then also do I need to run campaign with multi-offer and multi-lander? or can I run campaign with 1 offer and 1 lander?

Question 2: In Adplexity showing my 3 conversions but in my affiliate network and tracker its not showing any. What's the reason? Is adplexity showing wrong data? or problem with my CD affiliate network? Please help me.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

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Day 28: Doing a Bot Test

I am using Anti-fraud kit of Voluum.

Due to best discount and for saving few bucks I have subscribed annual profit plan of Voluum with Anti-fraud kit.

Question: How effectively I can use Anti-fraud kit?

I don't have more idea. I have just activated.

Thanks.

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Hi, Pratik!

I wish you good luck in all your endeavors, I’m sure that soon you will receive a green light! Please tell me why you decided to use Voluum?

Amazed at your success with the $ 1 Guide!

Best regards,
Anton GoAffiliate

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Hi @anton.

Thanks for best wishes and appreciation

Voluum refer by lots of super affiliates and also there are amazing features available. like: anti-fraud kit, rules, zeropark and other best integration features also lots of reference guides. which I haven't seen in another tracker. that's why I decided to use Voluum. Hope this will helpful to you.

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Day 33: The 3 Optimization Approaches

Day 34-35: Blacklisting and Whitelisting - Tips

Day 34-35: Blacklisting and Whitelisting - Example

Day 36-37: Testing Bids

Day 38: Responding to Sudden Dives in Campaign Performance


Thanks for the amazing optimization guide, It's very helpful.I would like to refer it to again and again. every time get new gems from it.

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Day 39: Applying to More Traffic and Affiliate Networks

Here is my list of current Traffic and Affiliate Networks till now journey.

Traffic Networks:
1. PopAds
2. PropellerAds
3. PopCash
4. AdCash
5. Startapp
6. ZeroPark

Affiliate Networks:
1. Mobipium
2. Mobidea
3. Click dealer
4. Gotzha
5. Maxbounty
6. Big Bang Ads

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Day 40: Scaling to Other Traffic Networks

I have scale my smartlink campaign but with pop sweep I didn't get best result yet.

Again Thank you so much, Amy, for great guidelines and amazing tips.

Now I am going to start my new traffic type journey on Facebook.
I am really thankful to all members who have contributed to my affiliate marketing pop journey.

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Hello Friends,

After reading some thread I realize that what to do.

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...et-For-Success

Sit down and make a commitment with me that I'm going to spend a solid period of time launching campaigns every day on the same traffic source. I am not moving to another traffic type now.

I don't have to choose a traffic source yet - just make that deal with me that no matter how grim it looks, I'm going to stick to my course until I find success.

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Hi @skalathiya - apologies for my absence! Was preparing for AWA, then attending AWA, then a much-needed vacation.

Am I understanding correctly that you've decided to stick with pop for a while? If so, I'll go back to answer all your questions in your posts above.

However, I would actually encourage you to explore FB instead. Pop is still the easiest and cheapest way to get started, but staying profitable consistently is another story. Although veteran affiliates are still profiting from pop, it has become more saturated, and will take newbies more time and money to get to consistent profits.

The traffic volume for pop is also fragmented - aside from a few big geos, it's become harder to get big volumes from any one traffic network. And babysitting a ton of small campaigns isn't exactly fun.

Also, with chrome updates and google banning pop domains more frequently, it has become necessary to switch lander domains more often - which adds to the hassle.

FB on the other hand is still far from being saturated. They do ban accounts, but if you give them what they want, you can keep account bans very few and far between.

I'm actually preparing to write a tutorial on how to run whitehat on FB. The first module should be done in a month or 2. In the meantime, there's a treasure trove of knowledge in the FB subforum.

Of course, you're not obligated to picking one traffic type and sticking with it for life - although as caurmen suggested in the thread you referred to, it would be wise to stick with one traffic type for the next while to give it a good go.

Please let me know your thoughts, and I'll do my best to guide in your next steps.




Amy

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Thanks for the reply

It's ok amy. I can understand your situation.

Yes, You understood correctly. I've decided to stick with pop for a while.

I have explored some FB threads and get found that there is more budget and skill required also I have tried to promote clickbank health vertical niche before joining STM but not get any success due to account restricted.

First I just want to make some $$/$$$ stable income with pop for survival.

I am not going to stick with pop for long time but at least would like to stick with it for a while till make some $$. also in-between if I will get some time then I would like to study other traffic type for next step.

After reading some threads I was thinking to start with push but then I found push also near by saturated so decide to start FB but It also require big budget and blackhat type skill. I am confused with that if you provide some guidance on that then it would be great.

Thanks.

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All noted - fair enough!

From what I've heard from many affiliates, push is actually EASIER to profit from than pop.

The 40-day pop tutorial will be a good primer, because push is very similar to pop. The main difference is that for push, you also need to create ads in addition to landers.

This would actually be the best time to start with push - twinaxe and other members have filled the push traffic subforum with invaluable tips and case studies. Twinaxe is also working on more posts on how to profit with push traffic, so stay tuned!

In the meantime, I'll create my FB whitehat guide for newbies, so if you wish to give it another try in the future, you'll have the option.




Amy

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Looking for optimization and scaling help

Here is my stats of 13 days of Jan 2020





Campaigns Details:
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Network1: 1 Offer + 1 Lander
Network2: 1 Offer + 1 Lander

Ad Network and target options are same for both offer.

I am getting most conversions from 1 zone of PropellerAds.

Do I need to test more lander for increase CR or need to test other things like:bid, other target options or Pricing Model of CPM or CPA Goal?

I have tried other Ad network also like Popads, Popcash and Adcash but didn't get proper output.

Do I need to check more Ad network or need to focus only for 1st adnetwork?

If require more details then please let me know I have confusion with bid, price model.

For mobile carrier and WiFi I need to make separate campaign that I know but how can I bid them?

Total Traffic Available
Bid 0.5: 25,487 Impressions
Bid 0.91: 93,474 Impressions
Bid 1.35: 94,875 Impressions
Bid 2: 94,921 Impressions
Bid 3: 94,924 Impressions

There is no more impressions on high bid compare to 1.35 so I am bidding with 1.35.

Can I bid same on carrier and WiFi because there is no more gap in impressions so ?

There is 1 zone where I get my all best traffic so do I need to check other pricing model of PropellerAds?

Thanks.
Pratik

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Oh wow Pratik! Nice to see you've made so much progress in the past month - you're practically breaking even!

First of all: How many offers and landers have you tested?

If the 1 offer + 1 lander are the winners from split-testing multiple offers and landers, then congratulations!

Otherwise, DO focus on testing offers and landers first, as doing so stand the best chances of increasing ROI by the largest extent.

If you feel that you have a good offer+lander combination already (i.e. after split-testing a decent number of landers and offers), then by all means, focus on optimizing.

So: Stuff like blacklisting unprofitable traffic segments (placements etc.) and testing bids.

As for testing CPA: I would suggest to hold off on doing this until you have an offer+lander combo that converts reasonably well.

The way CPA works, is that the network will only give you decent traffic volume if your campaign is converting well. The traffic network of course always aims to maximize their profits, so would want to give most of the available traffic to campaigns that convert well.

For split-testing landers and offers, I would suggest to stick with one network that has delivered the best results for you. Propeller makes a good choice. There's little point in wasting double the test budget by doing the same split-tests on multiple networks.

But when you find a good offer+lander combo, scale out to other networks.

What specifically are you confused about when it comes to bidding and price models? Please feel free to ask specific questions.

First of all: Does your offer accept both carrier and wifi traffic?

If so, does the offer have the same conversion flow for both types of traffic?

If so, I would suggest for you to test wifi traffic only, because it's cheaper and you'll get more impressions for the same price. And if the offer doesn't convert on wifi traffic, chances are it won't convert on carrier traffic either.

However, if the offer has a simpler conversion flow for carrier traffic, i.e. 1-click or 2-click flow, then I would suggest to test carrier traffic first. Reason: If the simpler offer flow doesn't convert, chances are the more complicated conversion flow would convert even worse.

In general though, there's no problem with bidding the same for wifi and carrier traffic. However, generally speaking, you'll get less carrier traffic volume, and if you need more volume you'd have to bid higher than for wifi.


Can you please elaborate on this? I'm not understanding your question.

BTW - nice to hear from you again!




Amy

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Thank you amy for such a kind word. It's nothing as per your tutorial I know that. I am thankful to you and other member's best support because without STM Forum I couldn't be on that result.

Yes. 1 offer + 1 lander are the winners from split-testing multiple offers and landers so now I am focusing on optimizing.

After spending few bucks I have found my best target options. I am targeting only WL there is only 1 zone.

Thanks for suggestion, My offer and lander converts but not as best. I have tested 2-3 offers from same affiliate network and from other network also. same affiliate network offers converts good but not best. I have checked some landers but still I think there is more lander require to check for more conversions. also I have no more WL zone so getting low traffic. So I am testing converting good multiple offers and landers campaign with target options and bid because in separate campaign I didn't get good result. I have tested some different traffic source but not get proper result from there. I need to increase more conversions for pay bump. Currently I am getting only 10-15 conversions per day with 4-5 dollar loss. due to not bidding proper I think.

as I have mentioned Traffic estimator above from there how can I get more conversions with same traffic options or any best propeller ads optimizations trick like frequency capping or distributed Ad delivery method or any other which is suitable as per my target options.

Target Options:
1 OS
1 Browser
Limited OS version and Browser version which converts
1 Zone
Wifi and Carrier same flow and converts in both | Wifi converts more and ROI negative but carrier convert less compare to wifi and ROI positive

Thanks. It makes sense.

I have only 1 propleller ads zone which converts good for me and I have limited target option as per above which converts good so my questions is that which is best effective way to get more profit from that options?

Please share me some more propeller ads optimization method and some biding strategy which I can implement in my campaign.

Thank You.

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Hello Guys,

I am back again with some updates.

Sorry for not updating regularly because of not good at English

Here is my Jan-Feb 2020 Stats with pop traffic.



Here is my this month's 6 days stats with pop and push traffic. Just started push by this month



I will try to keep you updated often.


Thank you all!

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Thanks for the update.

Not the best numbers but also nothing to panic about

Kepp us updated.

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Hello Guys,

Here is update of yesterday.

Offers 3 | FR | Android | Propeller Ads

COST: $27.53

REVENUE : $31.71 (+$2.24 from Monetizer)

PROFIT: $6.42

ROI : 23.32%

Voluum and Monetizer Stats:



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Most conversions are from Push Traffic. I am running High + Medium Activity Campaign with BL.

I have tried High Activity. Getting conversions but it cost much and low volume at the end it's make me in loss.

I have tried Low Activity also. there is not good result get.

I have 2-3 FR offers which converts but I am very confused with bid structure of Push.

Can I bid same on 2-3 offers with High + Medium Activity?

How can I get run more offers with same target options and bid?

Currently If I run 1 Offer then get in low profit if I run multi offers with same target options and different bid then get in loss.

Looking for your input. I am really grateful if you guys share your thoughts and push me up.

Thanks.

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Sure you can

Just create campaigns for it.

Let´s say you target mobile, Android, browser language EN, country UK, high user activity and your bid is $0.08.

Then you can just create different campaigns with exactly same targeting and bid and promote sweeps, dating, gambling, crypto or whatever at the same time.
In the end the user decides himself if he clicks your ad or not.

When you run sweeps you can also create different campaigns for different prices.

Some users are more likely to click on a "Win iPhone X" ad, others are more likely to click on a "Win Samsung Galaxy S20" ad.

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This is a huge advantage of push vs. pops.

On pops, you pay per impression and saturate all the same placements and can end up stealing traffic from yourself if you run simultaneous campaigns for different offers.

With push CPC, you can run as many as you want, and only pay for the ones people click.

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Wow @skalathiya!! I have no idea how I managed to miss your reply from January - so sorry about that! Next time if you receive a reply in a few days, please bump the thread!

I think it's wise and cool that you've decided to switch to push - and VERY happy that you're starting to find some profits already. I probably won't be offering a lot of insight as I don't run push, but will be following your progress as @twinaxe and @jaybot and other members that are experienced in push provide guidance.

Onwards and upwards!!



Amy

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