Fastest route to $10,000/month profit? (17)
What do you think is the fastest/most efficient traffic source or model to use to reach $10k/month profit (~$300/day) running paid ads as an affiliate?
I'm in a position where I need to waste as little time as possible getting to that point.
A bit more info:
- I have full-time availability, and (I think) plenty of money to invest (let's just say $20k).
- I'm not a newbie to internet marketing; I've run a couple of successful online-based businesses in the past, but no paid ads
- Technical aspects of tracking, landers, pixels, etc, aren't a roadblock (I'm a web developer)
- I have a decent understanding of the testing and optimization process (having seen a number of examples, but no direct experience)
The caveat, as mentioned, is that I really haven't done any "real", significant paid advertising campaigns. Just a few Facebook boosted posts and like ads.
I know Facebook+affiliate could reach that goal as I've purchased some great courses that teach that model --- *IF* I was willing to deal with the headache of trying to keeping ad accounts alive and user profiles from being banned, which can slow down the whole process considerably. FB is especially nuts right now, and it's nerve-wracking. I'd rather avoid FB if I can.
So, I've reduced it down to two options:
- Native ads
- Push ads (SOI / Sweeps)
Maybe Pinterest, or Snapchat, or something else should be in there as well; seems they may have the volume as well as cost-effective traffic.
I keep hearing people recommend Pop or Push to newbies, but if the volume isn't there to reach $10k easily, then I'd rather invest my time into a bigger traffic source from the start.
So, I'm leaning toward going "all in" with native ads, but the high testing cost makes me nervous.
Another idea: If for some reason Push is just a lot easier to get profitable or has less of a learning curve than natives, maybe I could do Push AND natives at the same time, for better up front cashflow, even if Push isn't what I do long term. I've heard they have similarities, anyway.
Your thoughts?
One way or another I am diving in -- but I'd love to hear your experiences, opinions or advice before I do 
Push and native are similar in the way the ads are created, you don't need to create banners, it's all about picking an image and then writing a short copy. But that's about it, I would say.
Push is an intrusive format, native blends with the content.
Push offers no targeting pretty much, native has categories.
Native has generally higher quality than push.
And I could go on
When it comes to volumes, native has more for sure, but that doesn't mean you couldn't reach $300 per day profit with push. Millions and millions of push clicks are sold daily, so there is more than enough volume available.
I would say, you need way lower budget to properly test stuff with push traffic, native really requires a lot of $$$ to properly test offers.
On the other hand, pretty much all of us are expecting some kind of regulation to hit the push space as it's getting out of hand, the ad networks are "spamming" the subscribers to much. So for the long term, native might be a better choice.
I would personally start with push traffic, it's gonna be a less expensive lesson for sure.
Thanks for the reply, @matuloo. Appreciate the advice.
Good to know the potential of push. Definitely seem worth doing, even if it will likely get regulated.
If you have 20k start some low/mid cpl/cpa campaigns on native!
I think, next to FB and Google, on long term most stable and scalable! 
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Originally Posted by stickupkid
I think, next to FB and Google, on long term most stable and scalable!
Originally Posted by summitview
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$20k budget for getting into this is a really good place to be at mate, allows you breathing room in the beginning to afford testing, but also if you begin to nail some campaigns you have the flow to push it harder and in return grow your capital.
The best thing about pursuing native over Facebook is you won't be dealing with weird account bans that trigger one day and not the next, it can be really damaging to your early mindset if you flag an account and have to figure out how to get another while dealing with also learning affiliate marketing.
Pinterest or Native are what I would pursue if were you. Take out an Adplexity subscription too and have a good trawl through what is out there, overwhelming at first but you will get an idea of what seems to be working out there, then reverse engineer and begin to launch campaigns.
Also Q4 is a big time for ecom like stickup said, networks like giddyup, direct offers club etc will have you sorted for some offers.
Originally Posted by matuloo
Push is an intrusive format, native blends with the content.
Push offers no targeting pretty much, native has categories.
Native has generally higher quality than push.
And I could go on
When it comes to volumes, native has more for sure, but that doesn't mean you couldn't reach $300 per day profit with push. Millions and millions of push clicks are sold daily, so there is more than enough volume available.
I would say, you need way lower budget to properly test stuff with push traffic, native really requires a lot of $$$ to properly test offers.
On the other hand, pretty much all of us are expecting some kind of regulation to hit the push space as it's getting out of hand, the ad networks are "spamming" the subscribers to much. So for the long term, native might be a better choice.
I would personally start with push traffic, it's gonna be a less expensive lesson for sure.
1) Volumes - It depends on the amount of domains that specific network has. If a huge site crashes for that network, and we had similar things happen to us on pop, You lost a huge portion of traffic, and if a site goes down for maintenance the same. Push traffic delivery is dependent on the network that you work with, it has zero dependency on the site itself. And for instance we got quite a big data base of users, so it's a steady flow of traffic all along the way. You could easily reach 300$+, as you said there is a lot to go around.
2) Targeting - I agree that the targeting is lacking on push and it's more general, That's why if you run on push not niche oriented offers but something more engaging to the general people the performance is definitely there.
3) Push is a bit cheaper and more intrusive, and it has it's benefits and downsides. The upside is that it's not blending, it's in the user's device. Native blends so you have to be a bit more aggressive/Engaging.
Upsides and downsides, it's 2 different ad formats that i don't think we can talk about in the same breath. the basics is quite the same, the format of the creative, but other then that, it's a whole different ball park.
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Originally Posted by am2015
I wrote:
I would say we actually agreed on most of the points here, or am I reading it wrong?
No hard feelings though, not trying to be touchy either, I just got the impression that most of your replies actually were in line with what I wrote
Originally Posted by maynzie
Originally Posted by summitview
Originally Posted by jeremiahandor
That said, I've decided to focus first on ecom (DFO and GiddyUp) on Facebook to hopefully take advantage of Q4. I think that route is fairly safe with FB so I'm okay with it. As I get time I'll venture into native and push (I've been doing some spying using Anstrex for ideas). Planning to go nuts and test as much as I can during October. That's all I have right now... if I remember I may post back here with results.
Go for ecom on Facebook dude 
- Get a campaign up in the next 7 days make that your goal, nothing has to be perfect, let the audience/demographic teach you along the way !
Real life results > textbook theory
Just submitted a campaign on Facebook for an ecom offer. Actually I submitted it yesterday but FB is taking a freaking long time to approve. So it's STILL just sitting there In Review.
Meanwhile I'll get something else going (another ad account, or native, or push...).
Awesome man, did it end up getting approved?
.. Sometimes FB can take over a day to approve, if you get flagged make sure to appeal it as their system trips out very easily and you'lll most likely get it back
Yep - it took just over 24 hours to get approved ... it ran for a few hours ... then rejected because there was "profanity or insulting language" in the video. No profanity, but on closer inspection, there was something that could be seen as "insulting language". Man, Facebook is super sensitive! So I removed that video and have resubmitted the ad.
lol damn thats interesting I haven't seen that flag before, are you able to run the same video but cut that part out lol?
- Was the video something supplied by the advertiser or you found it yourself?
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