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My journey Starts 1-Jun-2019 CPI--->Sweepstakes (7)

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Hello,

First Sorry For any language mistakes i will try to explain as much as i can

My name is Mahmoud and i was working as Communication engineer Then i shift career to AM from about 2 months, First i started working on a CPI offer App install (Push) that was recommended by one of my friend who is an Affiliator, i was very lucky because i start to make profit from day 2 till now . In the 2 months i got profit around $2000 . after a month i started to take new offers i took 2 sweepstakes(Germany,Italy) and 1 App install Antivirus , i started with POP for the sweeps and for the Antivirus i made Push , i got subscription for Adplexity and i test each offer with 3 Landers( 2 offer Lang. - 1 English ) , For Germany i didn't get any conversions and Italy i got some so i closed Germany and focused on Italy , after working on it for about 15 days my cost was $380 and profit is $140 i don't know if i am doing something wrong or what i cut placements , OS versions , Browsers ... etc but the main thing that make me suffer that all (browsers,OS..) that cost much is the one that have conversions , so i dont know what to make , should i cut them or leave them or what .Finally i Closed that offer Also and Antivirus offer was same as Italy Sweepstakes all (browsers,OS,...) that cost much is the one that have conversion . I heard alot about STM forum so i decided to signup to gain experience and help anyone if i have a useful info. I started new offer Yesterday.

Offer: SweepStakes (SOI)
Geo:France
Network:Clickdealer
Payout: $1
Tracker:RedTrack
TrafficSource: PropellerAds
Landers : 3 LP FR from the 257 LP that STM offered them for 1$ and they got it from AdPlexity

DAY 1 : I launched 4 campaigns 2 SmartCPM(1 Mobile and 1 PC) and 2 CPA goal (1 Mobile and 1 PC) for CPM i bid with 0.25$ and For CPA i put 0.55$

PC campaigns Costs : 9$ No conversion. $4.25 for CPM and $4.7 For CPA
Mobile campaigns Costs : 7.2$ 2 Conversions. 4$ for CPM and 3.2 for CPA


DAY 2 : I cut Zones that costs 2x Payout , I Stopped PC campaigns and the mobile CPM campaign because it Cost in 2 days 9$ and still 1 Conversion.

i launched 3 mobile campaigns 2 CPA (0.45$) and 1 CPM(0.15$) , till now Cpa campaigns costs 8$ (4$ each) and 1 Conversion and CPM still <1$ and 0 Conversion .

i will update this thread . i just need to know if i am working in the right way or i have to change something . i need to know what is the exact time that i had to STOP the campaign and also the Zones .

i will be thankful for your help and Sorry again for my English

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Hey Omar!

Nice progress man,
That's a great share
Motives me to keep sharing as well.

One question,
Where did you get you current offers from
And did you got does offer recommendtion from an affiliate manager? Or found them yourself?

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Hi galhop, thanks
My first cpi offer was recommended by an affiliator, the sweeps that i closed from Mobidea and the one that am working on it now from clickdealer. Mobidea offers were recommended by Account manager but clickdealer i just pick an offer from their offer list

Sent from my RNE-L21 using STM Forums mobile app

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Keep up the good work. !

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Wow Mahmoud - thanks for sharing your story!

$2000 profit is very good for a beginner!

Thanks for choosing STM - let's do some work together!

I would suggest that you test more offers from Italy, because you already know which placements are good/bad, so you can test new offers on the best placements to save money.

From your history, I can see your biggest lesson is not testing enough offers. Testing more offers is the NUMBER ONE important thing to do, and the BEST way to increase your ROI. Focus on testing on offers and landers first (ESPECIALLY offers!!), find a good offer+lander combination, and THEN optimize by cutting placements/os/browsers/etc./etc.

Many newbies make the mistake of not testing offers, or not testing ENOUGH offers. They try to make the campaign profitable by cutting - until in the end they have very little traffic left. Don't make that mistake!


How many offers are you testing? If you're only testing one, try testing more offers.


Nobody can tell you exactly when to STOP a campaign.

When you are looking at stats, ask yourself this question:

What are the chances that this campaign will become profitable after I cut more bad traffic?

If your answer is "chances are low", then either 1)test more offers and/or landers and then ask the same question again, or 2)stop the campaign.

If your answer is "chances are good", then either 1)optimize the campaign, or 2)test more offers and/or landers first and THEN optimize the campaign (e.g. by cutting).


If the payout is $1 and you're testing 3 landers, then $4-5 is too little. You need to spend more and then ask that question above.

CPA campaigns: You need to run them longer (try 2+ days) to see results. The traffic source needs to "figure out" the best traffic to send to your campaign. This will require time.

It has been a week - how are your campaigns doing now?




Amy

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Hi Vortex , First thank you for your reply and sorry for my late one . i already quit that offer(Sweeps France) and i start to focus on my profitable offer , beside i tested one offer from @Monetizer network it was vpn and it was in USA(Smartlink) , it seems that it may be good one also as stats in network for profitable offers . This smartlink offer still not make profit but i am trying to make that . i am trying to get another offer to test it and i have some question regarding my profitable one so if you may refer any other thread or something to read . this offer is a CPI and global i took it direct from the advertiser and working only push notification . The question is how many campaigns should i create to make a higher profit because as i knew that campaigns have lifetime and when i create alot that means that i will be more able to make a good optimization and i will have many zones , but i was talking win an AM of a Traffic source and she told me that advertisers work normaly one campaign per day for one offer and she said that duplicates took traffic from my own . As my experience i make everyday more than 4 campaigns for just 1 tier and i observed that when i make alot of campaigns that day is more profit than normal one .so what do you think .

Thanks

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Glad to hear you're continuing to test!

What's the payout on this? Most CPI payouts are pretty low for the cost of push traffic.

Did you ask your AM which countries are converting the best? I would start by testing the top 3-5 geos to get an initial idea on which 1-2 to focus on.


I think you've answered your own question.

ALWAYS do your own testing!

Your stats will not lie to you.

It's great to learn from other people's advice - you can make some assumptions based on them. But in the end, only actual experience will show you what works and what doesn't.

I don't know which traffic source rep you were speaking with, and don't want to comment too much as I haven't seen your actual conversation. But I can tell you that successful affiliates are always launching new campaigns. I think the most number of campaigns I've ever launched in a day was 100+ and I'm sure other affiliates have launched more - especially if they have a team. Of course, launching many campaigns doesn't automatically mean you'll increase your chances of success, as those campaigns will also drain your budget. But assuming you're spending efficiently and designing your testing wisely, the more testing you do, the better your chances are of hitting on something promising.

It's a numbers game.

By the way: You mentioned you were running a sweeps offer. I'm just putting the final touches on a sweeps guide - here's the intro:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...268#post378268

You may wish to give sweeps a try after reading that guide.



Amy

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