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08-01-2019 07:19 AM #1 jonte_ (Member)
Changing trackers?

Hi all,

I have been using BeMob for over a year now and have thousands of campaigns, LPs, offers and statistics in it after using it for so long. I just saw the promotion on ZeroPark where if I spend $2000 on traffic this month of August, I get 40% off Voluum yearly plans. I did the math and this 40% deal will actually save me more than 50% what I'm currently spending on BeMob every month. I've also been checking out the features of Voluum and I'm particularly intrigued by the automated AI optimisation and the Anti-Fraud kit that Voluum offers. There's nothing like those 2 features in BeMob and I think they'd save me a fair amount of time.

Now the tricky part is migrating all of my precious data across from BeMob to Voluum. Is this even possible? I only have about 15-20 campaigns that I am actively sending traffic to so I suppose I could just start by moving those across manually 1 by 1.

Anyone have any experience in moving trackers and have any tips? I see that Voluum has a tool to migrate from Thrive to Voluum but I can't see a similar tool for Bemob to Voluum

Cheers,
Jonte


08-01-2019 08:25 AM #2 voluum (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jonte_ View Post
Now the tricky part is migrating all of my precious data across from BeMob to Voluum. Is this even possible? I only have about 15-20 campaigns that I am actively sending traffic to so I suppose I could just start by moving those across manually 1 by 1.

Anyone have any experience in moving trackers and have any tips? I see that Voluum has a tool to migrate from Thrive to Voluum but I can't see a similar tool for Bemob to Voluum
We can help you migrate most of the entities, let's get in touch on priv to talk about the details.


Karolina


08-01-2019 08:35 AM #3 redtrack (Member)

Hi,

Moving 20 campaigns to another tracker won't take much time and effort. And the tracker you'll be moving to will definitely help you with that.

In RedTrack you can get 50% off on yearly plan, check out our special Summer deal.

For example, a Half-Pro plan with 1.5 million clicks is on sale for just $300 a year. And this plan has all the Professional features like auto-optimization.


08-01-2019 09:14 AM #4 miss_bridge (Member)

Hi Jonte,

Ekaterina's here

I am from Adsbridge. If you haven't made up your mind regarding a tracker yet, I can offer you numerous benefits of Adsbridge

1. Price - we can offer you 50% discount on any subsription plan , plus you get all features included.
2. Anti fraud and Auto-optimization - Yes
3. Auto-transfer of your campaigns - we will help you with that and save your time
4. Opportunity to use our smart link and get additional profit. Our users get average 1000-1500$ (and more) of additional income per month using our smart offers.

I guess it's an offer worth considering. So feel free to get in touch with me for more details

Anyway, I wish you all the best with your business and a nice day


08-01-2019 09:45 AM #5 voluum (Veteran Member)

I really didn't want it to be a sales pitch but since we have to... I'll just focus on why you have this promotion in the first place.

Voluum and Zeropark are 2 products of the same company. So when you buy Zeropark traffic and use Voluum as your tracker you have at least 4 advantages ON TOP OF all the features Voluum offers (AI optimization, Anti-Fraud Kit and others):

1) Fully integrated tracking with the possibility to optimize from Voluum. You can change bids, pause, resume or even delete your campaigns and pause traffic for selected variables like ISP/carrier, mobile carrier, source, target, keyword, country, state/region, city straight from the tracker.

2) No white page redirect, tracking info is sent straight from ZP to Voluum in the back end, so there is no middle white page for your visitors to see.

3) No charge for tracked events. Events from your Zeropark campaigns do not count toward the total event count in Voluum. This means you can track as many Zeropark campaigns as you want at 0 cost and use all events included in your plan on other traffic sources. This applies as much to your push campaigns, as it does to pop.

4) Support teams for both products operate in the same office so if you have any problems they are quick to respond.

As I said before, we'll do most of the migration for you. Talk to you soon.


Karolina


08-01-2019 12:47 PM #6 miss_bridge (Member)

Every user chooses a tracker which suits his needs and it's absolutely normal if he tests several to find out the best option.

Adsbridge offers a variety of features that already included into the price you pay:

- Numerous templates of landing pages which you are free to use for your campaigns. Possibilty to create landing pages from scratch in landing page editor
- Campaigns without redirect
- Possibility to create unlimited number of sub-accounts (no extra cost!)
- Possibility to add unlimited number of domains (no extra cost!)
- Free SSL for domains bought on Adsbridge
- No charge for any other events but visits
- Personal account manager (skype, mail, call) with no extra cost

Jonte, we want you to have your tracking smooth, convenient and affordable!

You can test AdsBridge 14 days for free and make decision among other trackers. By the way, you are able to test all our features on your free trial!


08-01-2019 12:57 PM #7 jonte_ (Member)

Haha wow guys, you don't need to all pitch your trackers to me. I was specifically talking about moving to Voluum because I know they link with ZeroPark which I use a lot and also i know you don't have to pay for clicks from ZeroPark when using Voluum and also it has cost tracking for RevContent and Taboola which would be super useful for me too. I feel like upgrading trackers and Voluum definitely seems to have more features than most of the trackers I've looked and and definitely has more than my current tracker, BeMob, like the things I mentioned above and AI optimisation, a mobile app and an in-depth anti-fraud system. Also since they have a 40% off deal when I spend $2k this month on ZeroPark I think it's definitely worth looking into. I appreciate you all wanting my business though.
@voluum, I'll PM you.

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08-01-2019 01:47 PM #8 sprice (AMC Alumnus)

From my understanding I don't think you can actually import the campaign data. Only the campaigns/offers/landers/networks, etc...

But I'm pretty sure the only thing you can do with your campaign data is export it as a CSV or something.


08-01-2019 05:25 PM #9 HenryW (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jonte_ View Post
Haha wow guys, you don't need to all pitch your trackers to me. I was specifically talking about moving to Voluum because I know they link with ZeroPark which I use a lot and also i know you don't have to pay for clicks from ZeroPark when using Voluum and also it has cost tracking for RevContent and Taboola which would be super useful for me too. I feel like upgrading trackers and Voluum definitely seems to have more features than most of the trackers I've looked and and definitely has more than my current tracker, BeMob, like the things I mentioned above and AI optimisation, a mobile app and an in-depth anti-fraud system. Also since they have a 40% off deal when I spend $2k this month on ZeroPark I think it's definitely worth looking into. I appreciate you all wanting my business though.
@voluum, I'll PM you.
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If you're going with Voluum, one of the cool things they've built out is their offer marketplace - make sure you ask them about it! For example, if you have ClickDealer account you can one click setup an offer in Voluum and get started, without having to pull links etc. from ours - lots of cool features with Voluum!


08-01-2019 05:48 PM #10 ThrvTrkr (Member)

Hey All,

Jason Sierra here from ThriveTracker. I'm not here for another direct sales pitch.

I would like to point out a couple things regarding the tracker market. As technology grows and companies need to adapt, it will become apparent that each tracker will carry the same set of tools to keep up. If they don't then they may not stay around for long. That being said, it's more than the features within the platform. Sure, more trackers than Voluum have a Bot Filter (Anti-fraud kit) and AI. We have had our built in Bot Filter for over 2 years now and AI just launched earlier in July. Let's not let fancy terminology make one think differently. All trackers do their job, which is to track...I hope.

A mobile app is great, but you can only view stats leaving you without the option to edit on the go (correct me if I'm wrong). Isn't that the point of wanting to have a tracker with a mobile app so if there is an emergency you can make edits on the go? On the Thrive side, we went a different route. We optimized our UI to be extremely mobile friendly when logging in from your mobile device. It nearly looks identical to desktop. To check it out, go to our homepage (https://thrivetracker.com/) and click Live Demo from your phone or tablet (even works in a Tesla ). With this option you can actually view stats and edit on the go, versus viewing stats and having a dire change needed in a campaign, but you can't and it's just staring you in the face.

I'd like to touch on the biggest factor in my opinion when it comes to tracking. Support. Without world class support, every minute there is an issue could be vital to your wallet. Some things to consider - How good is your relationship with a support staff member with your tracker or Account Manager? Do they have people working weekends?

You see, it's not all about price because some cheaper options may cost you more in the end. It is quite mind blowing to me that some trackers have openly stated they work Monday-Friday and not weekends. What if there is an issue over the weekend? Guess that person is just out of luck...and money.

Just some thoughts to consider during your research of finding the right tracker for you.

Cheers!


08-01-2019 05:51 PM #11 chris r (Member)

I've tried both Bemob and Voluum, and honestly, I like Bemob more. I've talked to quite a few affiliates that have left Voluum because it just wasn't worth the cost. They either went to Bemob or Binom. Unless you're just itchin for a change, I would stick with Bemob.

-Chris


08-01-2019 09:08 PM #12 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Hehe, what a nice "battle of trackers" do we have going on here I really like how the increased competition in the tracking business worked in favor of the affiliates. We now have more solid trackers than ever on the market and even the functions improved a lot during the past year.


08-01-2019 11:57 PM #13 micoangelo (Member)

I use bemob. Almost switched to V. But, I switched back to bemob because Voluum was annoying in several ways. The switching cost is REAL!

I'm not just talking about campaign migration. Don't forget you have to get used to a new tool -- maybe you'll be missing subtle things that you liked, etc... Also, you have to replace all links in all campaigns, all LP's, and so many more annoying things.

Good luck.


08-02-2019 04:59 AM #14 sprice (AMC Alumnus)

FYI, I went from Bemob, to Voluum, then back to Bemob.

Your switch might not be worthwhile. You didn't list Voluum cost integration with Zeropark as one of your reasons for the switch.

The 2 reasons you did list: AI optimization and Anti-Fraud kit, it's my understanding that these 2 features aren't widely used "game-changers" for big super affiliates.


08-02-2019 08:55 AM #15 jonte_ (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by chris r View Post
I've tried both Bemob and Voluum, and honestly, I like Bemob more. I've talked to quite a few affiliates that have left Voluum because it just wasn't worth the cost. They either went to Bemob or Binom. Unless you're just itchin for a change, I would stick with Bemob.

-Chris
Quote Originally Posted by sprice View Post
FYI, I went from Bemob, to Voluum, then back to Bemob.

Your switch might not be worthwhile. You didn't list Voluum cost integration with Zeropark as one of your reasons for the switch.

The 2 reasons you did list: AI optimization and Anti-Fraud kit, it's my understanding that these 2 features aren't widely used "game-changers" for big super affiliates.
Interesting. I'm actually a big user of ZeroPark and I mentioned that was one of the reasons I'm interested in Voluum in my post above.

What are some of the reasons you decided to switch back to BeMob after going to Voluum? I feel like BeMob does the job but it seems like a much more basic tracker than Voluum. Voluum seems to have all the features that BeMob has plus a lot more. Is there anything that BeMob has that Voluum doesn't?

With the 40% discount on Voluum that I'll be getting, it will actually cost me literally half of what I'm currently paying for BeMob and give me roughly the same click limits and retention rates. I like that Voluum gives you a rough % of your traffic that is most likely bot traffic and alerts you to the zones/publishers which are majority bot traffic. One thing I like about BeMob is that I can still edit my campaigns and create new campaigns on my phone, even though the interface isn't mobile optimized it's still possible. Am I able to do that through Voluum? I know I might not be able to do it through the app itself but if I use my phone's browser to access my Voluum dashboard can I use all the features that I can on desktop?

Quote Originally Posted by ThrvTrkr View Post
Hey All,

Jason Sierra here from ThriveTracker. I'm not here for another direct sales pitch.

I would like to point out a couple things regarding the tracker market. As technology grows and companies need to adapt, it will become apparent that each tracker will carry the same set of tools to keep up. If they don't then they may not stay around for long. That being said, it's more than the features within the platform. Sure, more trackers than Voluum have a Bot Filter (Anti-fraud kit) and AI. We have had our built in Bot Filter for over 2 years now and AI just launched earlier in July. Let's not let fancy terminology make one think differently. All trackers do their job, which is to track...I hope.

A mobile app is great, but you can only view stats leaving you without the option to edit on the go (correct me if I'm wrong). Isn't that the point of wanting to have a tracker with a mobile app so if there is an emergency you can make edits on the go? On the Thrive side, we went a different route. We optimized our UI to be extremely mobile friendly when logging in from your mobile device. It nearly looks identical to desktop. To check it out, go to our homepage (https://thrivetracker.com/) and click Live Demo from your phone or tablet (even works in a Tesla ). With this option you can actually view stats and edit on the go, versus viewing stats and having a dire change needed in a campaign, but you can't and it's just staring you in the face.

I'd like to touch on the biggest factor in my opinion when it comes to tracking. Support. Without world class support, every minute there is an issue could be vital to your wallet. Some things to consider - How good is your relationship with a support staff member with your tracker or Account Manager? Do they have people working weekends?

You see, it's not all about price because some cheaper options may cost you more in the end. It is quite mind blowing to me that some trackers have openly stated they work Monday-Friday and not weekends. What if there is an issue over the weekend? Guess that person is just out of luck...and money.

Just some thoughts to consider during your research of finding the right tracker for you.

Cheers!
Funnily enough, Thrive was my first tracker back in 2015! However I didn't like the fact that it was self-hosted and since I was running a lot of pop traffic back then, the server costs ended up being way more than I would've been paying for a cloud-hosted tracker. Also, all the traffic slowed down my Thrive dashboard so much that it was basically unusable for a lot of the time.


08-02-2019 10:11 AM #16 roman binom (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by chris r View Post
I've talked to quite a few affiliates that have left Voluum because it just wasn't worth the cost. They either went to Bemob or Binom.
Ah, thanks for mentioning self-hosted tracker in this cloud-based competition


08-03-2019 12:46 AM #17 sprice (AMC Alumnus)

I honestly think it just comes down to personal preference. Both trackers are mostly exactly the same. Call me crazy but I prefer the user interface of Bemob. (only slightly because it's only slightly different)

As far as your personal situation, if you say Voluum is going to be cheaper, I would give it a test run first and see if you like it. Their sales reps will be more than happy to let you do this, and still give you the same pricing plan you're looking for when you're ready. The prices on their website aren't set in stone at all.

Why did I switch back to Bemob? I've been back and forth between many trackers over the last year as I dipped my feet into many different things. Started at Bemob, went to Funnel Flux for lifetime customer tracking, then to Voluum for the DSP, then back to Funnel Flux for ClickBank integration, and then finally had to decide between Bemob and Voluum to switch to from Funnel Flux (and I've run some off-brand stuff through binom as well).

If Voluum would have given me 1 additional user access for my assistant at the Entry plan, I might of gone with them. But they require the Basic level plan to do this, and then they want extra money on top of that to add 1 additional user access, which I 100% need. Add to that the fact that they want me to pay yet even more money on a monthly basis to add my own custom domains. We might be up in the $300/month range for all of the features I need which Bemob offers in a nice and simple $50/month package.

Voluum wasn't worth the additional 6x cost for me, for mostly the same features. Any features they have over Bemob isn't anything I need to run my campaigns. TheOptimizer runs my campaigns, and I use my tracker to dive deep into stats.

But if Voluum is going to be cheaper for you, it wouldn't hurt to hit up one of their reps on here and give it a test run.


08-03-2019 04:50 AM #18 vladzh (Member)

Wow, such a nice tread. Fell like high-jacking it a but - but: if somebody is interested in traffic source automation that goes beyond a couple sources - please PM with the least of sources - we have our top 20, but as we already done first 5, we want to review if our priorities are right.


08-05-2019 09:14 AM #19 voluum (Veteran Member)

While we do not advise to check your stats while driving a Tesla, you’ll be able to do so for Voluum if you want to. We went both routes, mobile app and mobile-optimized platform.
Our mobile app is available for both Android and iOS. You can completely customise it with widgets you create (even add them to your phone's home screen on Android) and set push notifications to alert you about changes in your campaigns’ performance, that’s the best part.
@jonte_ when you go to Voluum on your phone, you’ll be able to edit your campaigns and create new ones, the functionalities are all there and it’s mobile-optimized. And our reports are lightning fast, both on desktop and mobile, as we’ve put years into developing our proprietary VoluumDB.


Voluum integrations are of course more than just Zeropark (scroll up if you missed my post about it though). We did Revcontent, Taboola, Exoclick and Google Ads, and we’re not stopping there. We’re in a testing phase with a few very requested platforms, more waiting in the queue to be developed next. Send me a DM about it if you want to be included.


While we talk and focus on the newest features, they should only go on top of a steady and reliable platform with variety of tracking options. You’d be surprised but things like tracking impressions or tracking custom conversions, or setting a conversion cap on an offer, or enabling a user to manually update cost or manually update conversions when affiliate network didn’t fire a valid postback are still not supported by all. Handling high volumes, no issues with keeping campaigns constantly running and securing the data is a whole different topic as well.


Karolina


10-03-2019 02:48 AM #20 cyphercore (Member)

As a newbie, I didnt test it to the end, however I found Binom support very helpful. Almost instant replies


11-28-2019 10:05 AM #21 profit-rex (Member)

Damn so many trackers in this thread

I use both Voluum and Thrive. Both are good trackers, but i prefer Thrive because the UI is way faster than Voluum as they added a lot of features that slows my laptop down.

On a A/B split test both performs nearly the same.
On a cost basis, Voluum charges for events while Thrive charges for clicks. So Thrive can get cheaper. If you are running pop both will be a little expensive though, compared to a self hosted solution.


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