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Mobipium Offer Campaign Rejected by Propeller Ads (25)

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Propeller Ads rejected my Mobipium Offer campaign (Voluum Tracker Campaign URL) after I edited the GEOs during first round of optimization. I never got to actually optimize it.

I'll create a new campaign and try again with just the decent GEOs. See if they approve the URL in a different campaign.

Also,

My PopAds Mobipium camaign: After my first round of GEO cutting optimization my ROI steadily got worse. Went from -50%ROI to -60%ROI in the matter of minutes. I also cut all other OS's but Android and thought that may have messed things up so I put it back to ALL OS's and still no improvement.

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Yes, that´s pretty normal for Push subscription offers.

One reason is that the networks probably don´t like it that much to grow other peoples Push subscribers base on their platform when they have Push traffic themselves.

Another reason is that the Push subscription landers often are very spammy with redirect loops and stuff.
Then the campaigns also will be rejected.

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I tried creating a NEW campaign in Propeller Ads for the new offer "Push SmartLink TOP" (select GEOs) and it was rejected as well.

Propeller Ads hates me now.

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Thanks for reporting this! I'll test a few other sources and update everyone.



Amy

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They don't hate you, don't worry about it I had 100s and 100s of campaigns rejected by many networks, including propeller, it's a standard thing to encounter It takes a while to learn how to walk the thin line of getting approved VS rejected, we've all been there.

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Just a word of caution for propellerads rejections!
Multiple campaign rejections will get your account banned. My account was banned 4 days back for the same reason.
(I was making consistent $500/day profit with that account. Now its gone!)

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True story.

Account bans on pop networks are more rare - not like facebook.

Unless you resubmit the same TOS-violating campaign multiple times, or get caught cloaking etc. (And even these some pop sources will overlook.)

The trick is to test different things to find out exactly what is considered borderline acceptable. Pop is all about being aggressive (read: misleading) because it's interruption marketing so you need to use every trick in the book to get people's attention. Sometimes playing too safe and conservative just won't give you the leg-up you need to beat the competition.

So what I'd try to do is test multiple versions of landers or banners that are similar, with each one just a little bit more aggressive than the last - and see which ones would get approved.



Amy

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Sorry to hear! Were you trying to submit the same thing multiple times even after the initial rejection?

Why not just apply for another account?



Amy

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Amy, i was cloning the campaigns after blocking push offers in my smartlinks. Then it was OK for some days, But new push offers kept coming in and rejections happened again.
And i already have multiple accounts and all are banned at same time.

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Uh, that's quite unlucky... were you pushing the limits too much? I didn't hear about many people getting banned from propeller, you must have been pushing hard or they are tightening their rules up

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It's likely because of the nature of the offer.

We're talking about running a push smartlink on a network that's building a push subscribers base themselves. It's understandable why they'd have an issue with that.

I'll ask PropellerAds to shed some light on this.



Amy

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Initially my account was suspended for 12 Hours.
Then all were OK for some weeks. Suddenly Rejections started happening again because of new "Multiple Subscription" offers.
This time, I was banned permanently.

These are their rules (I got these details from my AM)





Hari

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Hi Amy,

As per your $1 Guide, we did same and PropellersAds rejected our link. So how can we able to enter your STM Context. where the count down started?

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I'm not understanding - in the guide I used PopAds as the source.

The contest ended at midnight July 1st EST - but we're planning to have more contests like this one later this year.



Amy

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For better understanding. My suggestion is that you have to revise $1 Guide steps and 40 Days Tutorial. where Newbies facing hurdles to follow steps.

Specially, PopAds has bugs in their payment system to accept Paypal or Credit Card, always come up with Popup to disable adblock, where we do not have any adblock. I tried Explorer, Edge, Chrom and tried from desktop and mobile but none is work. Always come with popup to disable adblock. so in this $1 guide we never move this step to create campaign in PopAds.

Secondly, Propellers offer approval. It is very crucial part of newbies training. you have to add step how to evaluate offer before submit for approval either with spy tool etc. Newbies can not go error and trial and trouble shooting all these step. So after this step to get approval I never move forward and waiting for knowledge to know how to evaluate offer first to avoid ban from Propellers.

Hope it is better understanding.

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While I appreciate your feedback, I have some feedback of my own that I feel may help you.

1)I cannot replicate the issue, so unfortunately there's no way for me to suggest a workaround.

2)You're the only person to have asked this question in all the years I've been answering newbies' questions, so my guess would be that it's a local issue and not something that affects many people.

While I try to make my tutorials very detailed, I cannot cover every conceivable scenario that may happen. Doing so would make the tutorial so long that it won't be feasible to execute.

I can only cover the major parts - it would be up to you to fill in some of the blanks.

3)Running paid traffic is a complicated process that involves countless variables. This is what makes it so challenging but exciting. I, along with the rest of the mods team and other veteran members, can only GUIDE you in the general direction, plus answer specific questions. Between these 2 extremes, there will be a spot where you WILL need to fill in the blanks, i.e. do your own research and testing and come to your own conclusions.

Any step-by-step guide of a method will only result in that method being saturated in a matter of days, or even hours. This $1 guide is no different. This is why I STRESS in the guide that the main focus should be to learn how to set up a campaign, and secondly to make the first conversions. Profits are not guaranteed, and the fact that so many people have had success with it was because I've done a LOT of testing to find one of the best-converting smartlinks. Still, with so many people all running that smartlink on the same traffic source, saturation IS being reached. ROIs are coming down for everyone.

My point is that you WILL need to figure out a LOT of things on your own if you want to succeed at this game. I'm usually very gentle with newbies but I feel that this is something you need to hear early on.

This $1 guide is ALREADY the most-detailed guide you CAN follow to set up your first campaign. The adblock issue is not something I have any control over. You need to take control and ask questions and do your own research to try to figure this out. Expecting everything to be handed to you on a silver platter will stifle your growth - you won't likely succeed with this type of limiting mindset. Newbies CAN and DO do their own trouble-shooting and trial-and-error. Look at these other affiliates that have also tried the guide, and went through exactly that:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ide-Experiment

Being more proactive will help. Asking questions will help. But demanding that everything be served to you will not get you anywhere.

I don't like to be harsh, but if you don't make this change in your mentality and expectations, you'll just be wasting your time.

If you feel that the $1 guide or the STM forum is not what you were expecting, please shoot me a PM and I'll arrange a refund. We hope that you would stay and grow with us, but only if it wouldn't be a waste of time for both parties.


Perhaps it's because your location or your wifi provider that got flagged as high-risk by PopAds' security.

Have you tried contacting PopAds directly?




Again - the traffic source used in the guide is PopAds, not PropellerAds. And anitaway has already informed us that PropellerAds will not accept the push smartlink we're running - so please don't use PropellerAds for this.

I did not cover multiple traffic sources in the guide. It would be up to you to do your own testing and exploration. The $1 guide is only meant to take people through their first campaign.

I apologize if I sounded harsh - I always mean well. Just don't want you to waste your time and money and get nowhere. There's nothing wrong with wanting to receive exact instructions on what to do - that's why some people are more suited to hold down a job. But if you're wanting to make a living running paid traffic campaigns, that type of expectation will definitely not serve you.

Hope I've given you some food for thought!



Amy

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Hi Amy,

Thank you for your feedback. I really appreciated. I apologized about that what you feel about suggestions. It is only suggestion not recommendation.

You and your forum deserve that we have to member of this forum and learn and exchanges experience in affiliate marketing.

I really appreciated your help and hope very soon I can able to sorted out all these problems and continue to proceed further steps.

Cheers

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Your comment is much appreciated!

One more thought: When you were trying the different browsers and devices, were you connected to the same wifi (e.g. at home or at work)? May be worth trying from a friend's home.

You're able to run campaigns on propellerads - so if all else fails, just run on other platforms. PopAds isn't the only good platform. There are hundreds of other pop traffic networks.

Yes it's important to persevere, but it's also important to look for other solutions if one REALLY doesn't want to work after much trying.



Amy

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Hi Amy,

I have escalated the problem with PopAds help which you provided in last post. We found that it seem from my country level ISP(s) firewall block to access these sites to verify for payment process. Because I tried from home and mobile network the problem is the same. I can trace route these sites but can not access. it seem block by ISP(s) Firewall. PopAds system uses c.adsco.re and adsco.re for security verification.

c.adsco.re and adsco.re are well know as adware as mentioned in https://adware.guru/how-remove-c-adsco-re/

"C.adsco.re and other unwanted websites may start popping up on your open internet browser from time to time after some adware get set up on your device. Adware is normally distributed via freeware sites and also websites using software application splits."

Anyway, I have reported to my ISP to sorted out problem, and open access to these site for payment verification. let see today result.

I can use other Popunder Traffic platforms but I want to follow up exactly steps from your $1 guide. I dont want to miss anything. Otherwise I have deposited fund to Propellers and Mobidea.

Regarding Propellerads. I contacted with their support to sorted out Mobipium mobile offer rejection. We have to know the redirect path from they are accessing the LP to check, because these LP can not access from any other country and any other carrier other than specify in their offer. Like if offer's LP only can show to Chile with only Carrier Eltel. We have to know the redirect path Propellerads team analysis the offer LP.

Cheers

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I'm very impressed with how proactive you're being! This attitude WILL get you places and open doors!

Looking forward to what you find out!

Regarding PropellerAds though: Are you referring to the push smartlink, or another offer? The push smartlink does not only accept traffic from specific carriers - the reviewers should have no trouble accessing it, so it would seem that they're not allowing this type of offers to run on their network.

I've left a message with my PropellerAds contact, pending an answer. Will update once I find out more. Let's see what we find out.



Amy

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Thanks Amy,

As far I escalate the problem for Popads.net and wait for feedback from ISP. I donot think they will open access to these sites only for me neither rest of their clients will be on high risk for adware and malicious softwares. You can see google full of articles of how to remove these adwares. But PopAds folk informed that these are all automatically generated articles and he informed that their verification sites are not effected . Anyway, the quick solution I did not that I bypass my country ISP and use other country ISP via relative to login with my account and pay via paypal. Now succeeded in way to deposit fund and can able to continue our $1 guide steps.

Regarding PropellersAds through: NO I am not referring smartlink, I am referring single mobile offer of Peru Carrier Eltel from Mobidea , this is the steps which you have mentioned in your 40 days tutorial. if your forum has any Propellerads representative he can give explanation about Rejection of offer or provide us redirect path how they test this offer. Or I have to report individually to propellerads.

Yousuf

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Hi Guys,

I come with more information about Offer Campaign Rejected by Propeller Ads.

As we have in guideline steps of $1 Guide and 40 Days Tutorial. We follow up steps and assign Mobile Content Offers from Mobipium from $1 Guide and Mobidea from 40 Days Tutorial.

The result is PropellerAds rejects these offers either these are smartlink or single offer. The Mobile offers rejected by initial PropellerAds, I dont know other traffic source yet. The reason PropellerAds technical team informed that they can not access these LP for verification to comply their rules and regulation because these offers only dedicated to particular countries with their particular mobile carriers. If they need to check LP they have to have representative in respective country and have mobile line with this specific carrier to check LP from his mobile. These can not access via VPN or anywhere in the world.

Solution:
The Solution is that the affiliate network like Mobidea and Mobipium should grant access to these main Traffic Sources companies like PropellerAds and add their server's IP in their access-list to grant access to their LP.

I have already reported to Mobidea's Francisco and waiting for their feedback.

AMY, if you have know anybody in this Forum from Mobidea and Mobipium please notify them about these issue.

Yousuf

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I must say - you're encountering problems that NOBODY on this forum has reported before - and I've LITERALLY helped hundreds (perhaps thousands) of new affiliates run pop on these traffic networks.

Perhaps there's something about your geographical location that got your account flagged as high risk, and this may be why you're encountering all these additional issues.

Your suggestion won't work to solve the issue. If an offer only accepts carrier traffic, then even if the reviewer were to use a VPN they would not be able to see the offer. However, most traffic networks would STILL be able to access the offer page somehow (maybe using some special service to emulate carrier traffic).

I used to run 1/2-click offers in high volumes and almost never encountered any issues from traffic networks.

Moreover: It wouldn't help to ask Mobidea - I doubt there's anything they can do. What you can TRY is grab the screenshot of the offer from your Mobidea inferface, and show that to Propellerads and tell them that's what the final offer page looks like. Sometimes that simple step will get a campaign approved. Sometimes not.

I wouldn't worry about this though - just move onto the lessons where I cover how to rip and fix up landing pages, and promote other types of offers. 1/2-click offers are only for practice.

Also: Like twinaxe pointed out in another thread in respond to your other post, if you are to continue running pop traffic, you NEED to stop letting the "adware traffic" concept bother you. You're worrying about something that isn't a concern, period. I'll stop here because twinaxe has already said all that needs to be said about this topic.



Amy

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Thank AMY,

it is not because of geographical location. it is because "Multiple Subscription request in LP" as PropellerAds technical team informed. They are not interested to access to LP or screenshot to see. They informed that campaign should comply their rules and regulations. that's it.

So I leave it is and move ahead to follow up steps.

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I understand. These are separate issues.

Propeller doesn't like people running push offers to collect push subscribers. That goes for everyone.

The other issue you're encountering is they're rejecting your 1/2-click offer campaigns - which normally are allowed.

That plus the popads payment issue led me to believe that there may be some flagging of your accounts.


Amy

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