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50% bot traffic at TJ? (9)

04-21-2019 01:13 PM #1 mstgeorge (Member)
50% bot traffic at TJ?

Hi guys,


So i started running a campaign at traffic junky 2 days ago.
I decided to run at all available spots for mobile 300*250 at pornhub and youporn meaning i was bidding for 3 placements pornhub footer, pornhub interstitial and youporn footer.
The positions i had at the bidding chain was 1st second and third.


After running the campaign for a bit over 24 hours i noticed something really weird in my tracker.
RedTrack has this feature that you can see Clicks and LP views.
Clicks is the number of people that clicked the banner to your LP and LP views is the number of people that actually saw your LP.
The LP views are counted by a .js script in the LP.


What i noticed is that LP views were 50% less than the Clicks




I immediately checked the hosting, landing pages, tested speed with GTMetrix and everything looked fine.
Keep in mind that i have used these landing pages in the past with no problem.
After some digging in my tracker i saw that all the visitors that clicked the Banner but never view the landing page were from the same device model and browser version.




What looks extremely weird to me is that it is a really old browser (2014) and also that almost 50% of visitors are using a specific mobile model.


All these visits came from the footer of pornhub and youporn. Interstitial had 0 visits from this combination.


Also some of the IPs of this combo had over 10 clicks to the landing pages and one of them had 50.


So do you think i am getting bot traffic from these spots?
Is it part of the game getting 50% bot traffic?
Or is something else happening?

04-21-2019 08:27 PM #2 jabong82 (Member)

There is a lot of bot traffic on TJ. It also varies quite a bit depending on GEO and placements as well.

Unfortunately it's just part of the game, and at the end of the day the only thing that matters is if you can profit on the spot or not despite the bot traffic.

You definitely want to keep an eye on the amount of bot traffic though as it is really bad on some placements and you don't want to just piss away money.

04-21-2019 08:40 PM #3 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Jabong is pretty much right, bot traffic is part of the game and in the end its all about the final ROI. The numbers you see are quite high do, my tests didnt show such high %. Usually it's below 25%, sometimes less than 10%. Can you share the GEO you're targeting. Some GEOs are more polluted with bots than others, especially when talking about mobile traffic.

04-21-2019 08:45 PM #4 mstgeorge (Member)

Thanks @jabong82 & @matuloo for the answers.
I was expecting to see some % of bot traffic but 50% seemed just too much.
The GEO is FR

04-22-2019 12:13 AM #5 dimounique (Member)

I do France too, 300x250, Pornhub, Youporn, Redtube and Tube8, on TJ I see 200 banner clicks, on Voluum I see 100 LP Views, 50% of traffic disappeared, I also checked my campaign link manually and with GTMetrix, I have 5 lps and I used London as location, it's closest to France I think, all 5 lps got loading speed under 1s, with campaign link and that's good for mobile, but yeah TJ for France seems pretty bad


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04-28-2019 04:00 PM #6 forgamon (Member)

Original poster: Did you check stats on TJ and number of clicks and cost for that? You are only talking about what you see in your tracker, but TJ could have already disregarded those bot views/clicks and didn't charge you for that?

Yes, bot traffic will always be there, but all bigger sources have bot detection systems in place, and they won't charge you for those impressions..... or majority of them.... well, except Exoclick I guess, lol, but that's a different planet.

Just a thought.

04-28-2019 04:11 PM #7 mstgeorge (Member)

I might missed refering it, but yes i checked the stats at TJ dashboard and i was charged normally for these clicks
I don't know maybe was a glitch in their algo or the specific spot.
I am testing other placements right now and the numbers look way better!

04-28-2019 08:00 PM #8 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by mstgeorge View Post
I might missed refering it, but yes i checked the stats at TJ dashboard and i was charged normally for these clicks
I don't know maybe was a glitch in their algo or the specific spot.
I am testing other placements right now and the numbers look way better!
Several of us here on STM had problems with TJ in the past few months... weird quality considering the nature of their sites, very low CTRs in some spots etc ... So maybe you've been hit with some of their algo-tweaks too, or whatever it is they are doing over there.

04-29-2019 06:01 AM #9 jabong82 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by forgamon View Post
Original poster: Did you check stats on TJ and number of clicks and cost for that? You are only talking about what you see in your tracker, but TJ could have already disregarded those bot views/clicks and didn't charge you for that?

Yes, bot traffic will always be there, but all bigger sources have bot detection systems in place, and they won't charge you for those impressions..... or majority of them.... well, except Exoclick I guess, lol, but that's a different planet.

Just a thought.
TJ never undercharges.

Their stats always show they have delivered more clicks when compared to your tracker lol.

For me especially on mobile placements, I am always short somewhere around 7-10%.

I just factor that click loss into my estimated CPC to figure out whether or not it's viable to run a placement or not.

But in my experience TJ never errors in your favor lol

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