Quick Summary - How To Keep Your Facebook Accounts Live (15)
Quick Summary - How To Keep Your Facebook Accounts Live
Since there are still a lot of questions and mysteries around Facebook and how to keep an account live for a decent time, here a list of quick wins - tips and info what's important to keep an eye on. Nowadays the info might be relevant too for the white-hatters, since FB is kickin' ass quite randomly sometimes!
Almost 3 years ago we started with our farming platform, at the moment we (and our partners) still run on accounts of 2yr+ age, blackhat only, without cloaking (some clients cloak tho').
The trick is to fly under the radar at any time, to avoid manual reviews!
Tech setup;
- make sure your accounts are not connected in anyway when it comes to; ip adress, fingerprint, device, browser versions etc. Ofcourse you MIGHT be able to run several accounts on one device through one IP, but when you start scaling (on ad spend, but also on volume of accounts) FB will hit you and take down everything related! Just a simple MLA setup will not be enough to do decent volumes.
Payment setup;
- make sure you use solid payment methods. try to avoid usage of vcc's and similar payments methods like these. big chance these services are bombed with mediabuyers burning their bin's. a decent solution might be adding paypal to the FB account with a VCC attached to the paypal account. still not the most solid solution compared to a real solid CC or iDeal (Dutch payment method) for example.
- use per account a unique (never used before) card/paypal/method. once an account goes down, big chance the payment method is flagged too. if you are using the same card on more accounts it's very easy for FB to catch your whole business and lay it down.
Lander setup;
- host your prelanders on fresh domains, and use per account a unique domain. same story as above - you don't want all your campaigns go down because of one ban. never re-use domains which were banned before.
- use unique landers, with good content and decent coding. every javascript or similar coding which is hard for FB to read/explore quickly, is a reason to investigate more and in-depth
Advertising setup;
- avoid adding redirects, landers with pops (or other disturbing scripts), geo-targeted links, ripped landers (or just poor quality landers), etc. especially the last one, big chance it has been mis-used by other mediabuyers before on big scale, perhaps FB is not banning you per se by using a ripped lander but at least they will mention the lander has poor/quality content and you will be punished with shitty traffic and high cpc's.
- avoid usage of keywords which might refer to dodgy stuff, for the AD but also lander ofcourse
- scale very slowly (first weeks of mediabuy, around 20/40 bucks a day only). after that keep budgets under a mid xxx spend a day per account. for me the best method of decent scaling is divide all camps on multiple accounts with that xxx daily budget. besides the fact you won't get hurt too much once an account goes down, it's a ninja-way of scaling - having multiple accounts doing decent spend without catching too much attention
- don't adjust/add/delete in your account and campaigns too much when they are live, every adjustment might be a reason for FB to check out your account!
This is it for now, probably going to add stuff later on.....
BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS "CAN I DO THIS, WHAT IF I DO THAT? etc" THINK FIRST! Use some common sense and ask yourself, could this be a reason for FB to check my account?
rather insightful, particularly the ripped lander flags..
Blackhat here i come 
Super valueable for anyone running affilite offers on fb. I do not care if it is wh or bh, they will hunt you down. Better use these tips above.
Could you shed some light on this:
''Almost 3 years ago we started with our farming platform, at the moment we (and our partners) still run on accounts of 2yr+ age, blackhat only, without cloaking (some clients cloak tho').''
So you are running uncompliant ads & landers without cloaking?
And also on this
Just a simple MLA setup will not be enough to do decent volumes.
What do you suggest instead of just doing MLA + Luminati/Other IP source?
Our ads are not agressive at all, and quite trustworthy. Angles can be very simple and stratght forward! Also our landers are quite general surveys, ofcourse with some keywords like win etc, but nothing out of balance!
For your info, we had 2 top IT guys building our farming platform, for almost 9 months fulltime. So my advice;
- invest in a proper IT team, if you want to farm yourself and do decent volumes with it
- hire/rent accounts from friends/family and run on those
No one will beat FB, cloaking or not. They have dozens of a-level developers and they will crack your stuff in seconds.
Originally Posted by stickupkid
However, if you look at this from a long term point of view and you want to grow a long term business where things are stable, then I 100% agree - very difficult to "beat" FB. They have the resources (both human and tech) to shut you down as quickly as possible.
Originally Posted by netgalaxy
@stickupkid With regards to payment methods I see you attached one card per account.
What are the drawbacks of adding a CC to the Business Manager ( in business manager settings)and choosing to pay from there instead?
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Originally Posted by -ticon-
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Thanks for the feedback guys it is highly appreciated. @stickupkid, really interesting that you only run personal accounts - kinda makes sense since it raises minimal flags. @maynzie, I do use a separate domain and fanpage per account, but also been using my CC from a Business Manger level.
My question is:
Do you think it would raise suspicion should I change my cc from the BM level to the account level?
For context I’m running a BH Nutra offer in a WH way and haven’t run into any major problems so far, only 4 ad disapproval’s on the account.
I have used this same CC to pay a WH Lead Gen account (from the BM level) which I do not have any active campaigns running ATM.
To add, this WH account got disable 4 days ago, I appealed and it then got re-enabled the same day.
I’ve just hit a 100% ROI funnel on my Nutra account yesterday on a $20 budget and now looking to scale but obvs don’t want to f*ck it up.( Ive spent around $500 on this account total)
I’m thinking to not change the CC to the account level (aka don’t fix what ain’t broke) but obviously want to make this account survive as long as possible since I've hit a winner.
Let me know if you have any suggestions,
(PS let me know if this is hijacking the thread" and I will post elsewhere)
Thanks!
Originally Posted by -ticon-
For example I once made a mistake using "pound" sign instead of "dollar" for an Australian ad. The campaign was still profitable so to avoid a new (manual) review I kept the ads going and when duplicating I changed the pound- > dollar.
Since you are on thin ice with running Nutra, I wouldn't mess too much with payment methods etc. Highly tense part of your account that is!
No hijacking here man, it's good to discuss these things open since it's quite relevant!
Originally Posted by stickupkid
Almost 3 years ago we started with our farming platform, at the moment we (and our partners) still run on accounts of 2yr+ age, blackhat only, without cloaking (some clients cloak tho').
The trick is to fly under the radar at any time, to avoid manual reviews!Tech setup;
- make sure your accounts are not connected in anyway when it comes to; ip adress, fingerprint, device, browser versions etc. Ofcourse you MIGHT be able to run several accounts on one device through one IP, but when you start scaling (on ad spend, but also on volume of accounts) FB will hit you and take down everything related! Just a simple MLA setup will not be enough to do decent volumes.
Payment setup;
- make sure you use solid payment methods. try to avoid usage of vcc's and similar payments methods like these. big chance these services are bombed with mediabuyers burning their bin's. a decent solution might be adding paypal to the FB account with a VCC attached to the paypal account. still not the most solid solution compared to a real solid CC or iDeal (Dutch payment method) for example.
- use per account a unique (never used before) card/paypal/method. once an account goes down, big chance the payment method is flagged too. if you are using the same card on more accounts it's very easy for FB to catch your whole business and lay it down.
Lander setup;
- host your prelanders on fresh domains, and use per account a unique domain. same story as above - you don't want all your campaigns go down because of one ban. never re-use domains which were banned before.
- use unique landers, with good content and decent coding. every javascript or similar coding which is hard for FB to read/explore quickly, is a reason to investigate more and in-depth
Advertising setup;
- avoid adding redirects, landers with pops (or other disturbing scripts), geo-targeted links, ripped landers (or just poor quality landers), etc. especially the last one, big chance it has been mis-used by other mediabuyers before on big scale, perhaps FB is not banning you per se by using a ripped lander but at least they will mention the lander has poor/quality content and you will be punished with shitty traffic and high cpc's.
- avoid usage of keywords which might refer to dodgy stuff, for the AD but also lander ofcourse
- scale very slowly (first weeks of mediabuy, around 20/40 bucks a day only). after that keep budgets under a mid xxx spend a day per account. for me the best method of decent scaling is divide all camps on multiple accounts with that xxx daily budget. besides the fact you won't get hurt too much once an account goes down, it's a ninja-way of scaling - having multiple accounts doing decent spend without catching too much attention
- don't adjust/add/delete in your account and campaigns too much when they are live, every adjustment might be a reason for FB to check out your account!
This is it for now, probably going to add stuff later on.....
BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS "CAN I DO THIS, WHAT IF I DO THAT? etc" THINK FIRST! Use some common sense and ask yourself, could this be a reason for FB to check my account?
And for IP, you are using residential proxy like luminati?
Originally Posted by oizzzz
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@stickupkid
I got the same question 
''Hi, which software you are using nowadays for farming FB account? Do you have anything to sell me? ''
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