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03-25-2019 04:13 PM
#1
testosterone (Member)
Only An Idiot Can Become 3 Times A Millionaire From Zero - So I Did! (Details here)
Mods: as always with my posts - you can either share them as-is or delete them in whole. I don't want a single word changed, because it will hurt the impact-making, lesson-getting power of the post that follows. Thank you.

Originally Posted by
king david
This guy is just incredible. It is nice to hear from people on the thread, starting with testosterone, and finding out how the markets actually work.
The tips on this thread regarding copywriting are truly priceless. Thanks!

Originally Posted by
the_professor
This man has incredible copywriting skills...I wanted to buy the product after reading his explanation!!

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
For those of you aren't familiar with Mr Testosterone, I can vouch for him, that he practices what he preaches. To my surprise he sent me some of his product a while back, it wasn't shit!


Originally Posted by
caleb
@ Testosterone: great post. I know your product. Have seen your various split tests. Glad you are at the point where you're beating the competition.

Originally Posted by
andy_d
great thread testosterone.
Quite curious about your product...
Keen to test it out.

Originally Posted by
delash
@testosterone you such a good supplements to the forum, I love reading your stuff, thanks.

Originally Posted by
maynzie
What a BEAST thread!
Love it!

Originally Posted by
epicskillz
Wow, that an amazing thread!
Tip about going after product owners who've pushed mega-successful products is pure gold!

Originally Posted by
bluebit
Incredible story, and lots of food for thought. Thank you!

Originally Posted by
caurmen
This is absolutely golden advice

Originally Posted by
marcovandaar
I can see you are/were a copywriter the way you write.
[] thanks for sharing !

Originally Posted by
1vansyl
this post is what I joined STM for. insights like these make amateur marketers like me realise the things that we are doing wrong when just blindly following the herd.

Originally Posted by
dconstrukt
this thread is awesome... good stuff.

Originally Posted by
richierich
Anyway, how can i work with you guys? I want to be your affiliate. I think, i can make more money by promoting your product.

Originally Posted by
delash
thanks for sharing!

Originally Posted by
the_writer
Stackers-
Mr Testosterone, he's somebody you should listen to.
VERY smart guy.

Originally Posted by
dotcom
Great story!
you definitely have the sales funnel down to a science since you've done decent numbers

Originally Posted by
rafa13
Really really thanks.

Originally Posted by
synnsg
This post probably paid for my few short months of STM membership. Going to brainstorm my demo and test it out.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by
highflyer357
Wow! This has really turned into a great thread. Lots of actionable nuggets. Thanks Testo!

Originally Posted by
sanwa85
Damn!
This thread is amazing. While reading this thread, Eugene Schwartz's tip popped in my head...
Thanks mr. Testosterone! Your thread inspired me a Lot!

Originally Posted by
artsifin
... priceless thread here in STM! Great story testosterone.

Originally Posted by
navinc
Really had a couple of ah ah moments especially the unicorn.

Originally Posted by
highflyer357
Wow! This has really turned into a great thread. Lots of actionable nuggets. Thanks Testo!

Originally Posted by
stackman
The unicorn is key.
Hey my friends,
long time no hear. I did it, again!
This is a quick story how I got to a million+ from ZERO in yet another market.
Current stats:
2007 - broke to a millionaire (1) for the first time in internet marketing market being one of top, record-breaking copywriters out there. I spent it all.
2015 - broke to a multi-millionaire (43+) for the second time in testosterone supplements market, making the top selling testosterone supplement on the web, directly. Yup, I managed to spend it all but a couple real estates.
2018 - broke to a millionaire (ongoing)
If you think learning about moneymaking from a guy who spent it all on chicks, owning nightclubs, supercars, boobs, more boobs... is a bad idea... well, good luck trying to learn something from story of Mark Zuckerberg and such!
My friends call me, absolutely the best mentor alive, and yet I hate mentoring people.
It's so stressful, pain-in-the-ass, energy-consuming thing that I decided to pay my dues to the society and to Universe which rewarded me with all this, by writing this post.
Because my first post helped so many of you, I think this is good place to share this.
If you're on STM for a while you know I made my first million when I was 22... later I got into mid xx,xxx,xxx.xx figures with my supplement business. From zero. With just two employees. One of them an idiot, and another became a quite capable guy (after year of nerve-wrecking training).
So what did I do now?
Third time is a luck they say, and for the first time I had a product that begged to be sold. Product so white-hot that cocaine in comparison is poor man's play.
While I got this opportunity with zero money investment, to be fully fair, it wasn't available to just an average Joe, but it came to me thanks to my long-standing reputation for honesty, integrity and capabilities.
When I tell you about it, you'll quickly realize... while my last two businesses required tremendous skill and focus... which I both have, this one is like a reward waiting to be unlocked.
It's like someone handing you.. instead of a bag full of cash, a key to the locker, and the only way to the locker is if you get there by train which goes twice per year - so you have like a couple months of investments to unlock it.
Alright, what is it?
I got in touch with asians that 'hacked' forex.
I shit you not. 100% legal. 100% undetectable. ONE THOUSAND percent... ethical... just FX brokers hate you because they make money not just off the spread but also by trading against you.
What they made is the world's first known AI that truly successfully trades Forex.
It makes around 5% per week.
If you are not in investment world, it might seem like low to you, but try compounding it. It's biggest edge is SPEED. It does it like per week. Try compounding that over the period of one year, and tell me what figure you got.
Yup!
So, I guess we get rewarded in a way we least expect. We get a chance to become better in area we are not strong. My not strong area is - CAPITAL.
I had no idea how to deal with capital people. Still don't.
I was always a guy hanging with almost-broke people, being the richest and helping them all.
I always hated suit-and-tie fakers starting an introduction with "how are you?" -- like you give a fuck.
I am honest to the bones.
People know it. People respect me for it. However... it is not good in the corporate world or in the world of politics.
And now, the only way I could make benefit out of this thing was going where the capital is... a challenge.
Details, Details...
Okay, in order to show you how and what I did - I must tell you the entire thing...
This product is so rare that billion+ funds would give ass to get it. Truly.
It uses heavy machine learning and the cost of it 'thinking' is the same like used for cryptocurrency mining for example.
These guys decided not to graduate from university with the project that led them to this discovery, just to keep it private.
Six years later I am the FIRST 'outsider' to get an opportunity to promote it.
The deal: they take 50% of the profit made. I don't make anything serious unless investors I bring in are 1 million+. 30 accounts are hard limit.
The challenge(s): how to get 1m+ guys, how to let them all test while keeping it under 30 slots I was given.
The solution: I just gave it to all. I figured, I needed a track record, something to show people, and since Asians were geniuses in making the machine work, they weren't so skilled in promotions. They actually got in a fight among themselves when I was allowed to get in.
After I tried it for the first week and saw not 3-4 trades that could be result of a 'luck'... I noticed the machine did over 90 trades! The statistics are same like in advertising... conversions vs clicks. Statistically significant.
I got them to allow just one week free trial, where anyone having 10k+ would get into positions, and brought to full closure of the account so they can withdraw their funds within 1 week. Because of getting into positions and especially closing positions takes time, the machine effectively traded just two days. Result = 5.09%.
100% renewal rate.
At this time I was under 30 accounts I was allowed, so I didn't bother about kicking small guys out. I told them upfront about how it will be, and they agreed, figuring they are making free profit. Machine on $10k accounts is making around $100 per day which is enough to get some big boobs massage at the treat of AI. Feels good. For the first time ever, I felt the truly passive profit.
I downloaded the MT4 app (something to monitor your forex trades) and I'd watch every couple of hours, even when drinking, partying, chasing chicks... I'd see AI booking profit, consistently and with pretty good money management.
I knew, fucking knew I was onto something, but yet, still... I have zero big players (top player at the moment is 50k+)... hmm, how will I get to 1m+ where I earn commissions too?
That was the challenge for me, so I came to guys who had big community access, and guys I knew as legit, as badass, as good people... to start spreading the word.
Three days later my good friend and actually my super affiliate from the testosterone business came and said, hey brother I have 3-4 guys ready to invest right now and they are able to scale way past 1 mil.
Badass - I thought!
Only then we realized, US people are not allowed. Everybody but the US.
Why? Well because of the US regulation that doesn't allow leverage higher than 50:1 and the machine has the most edge actually on 500:1.
So once again, back to square one. I started a mini affiliate program - wherever I'd find someone who I thought had access to the rich folks (and I really didn't hang around those guys), I'd tell them, look: whatever you bring in - we split, and this opportunity is private, no one can get in otherwise, and the folks, conservative banking folks would give ass for investments that get them in one week what they would make in one year otherwise.
The game was on. I was thinking that getting guys to put in 10k+ would be a problem, but far from it. Those interested, would do it easily and quickly, and those not interested, you could stop persuading immediately. Completely different from my previous businesses.
This wasn't even my business. It all happened so quickly. One day I was joining forces with my friend who paid 7k and I put 3k to get 10k account and next three months I'd make 300k+ in commissions.
I knew I was onto something when: 1) renewal rate after test week was 100% - even though they had to pay upfront 1k as non-refundable part of profit share 2) guys that joined, after week or two in many cases started topping up their accounts.
Oh yes, this isn't hyip or some bullshit, I forgot to mention the sweetest, cutest, best 'little' detail. The money is, the entire time, on your own account
The AI just trades for you.
Doing what I know best - partying!
So the first million I didn't cross by actually finding 1m+ guys, but by being approached by a guy big in investment world who asked me to sell him rights for the next 8 months for 15 slots for a deal of clean 1m without changing the deal towards the AI makers. What would YOU do? lol, I accepted, as the 15 remaining accounts were more than enough for me and also give me nice entertainment on conquering yet another challenge - dealing with capital.
Did I forget to mention that I could have sold my testosterone company for at least double of what it did until then... if we just had kept the books?
However, we didn't, and that was my price to pay for being free of the corporate world.
(the company was/is non-us and it was not obligatory to keep em - to avoid many pms on that topic)
So, I met one evening a guy representing one of the biggest forex brokerages in the world, over 2 million paying users!
We got drunk, and he said - look, fuck it - we are controlled by five different regulatory agencies - if you can bring in guys, we will be happy with just spread fees.
This was wonderful... if true... this would mean - they won't mind my guys profiting.
He said: "we would just hedge against their bigger orders, so they don't end up being too expensive for us". Sounded fine.
However, besides the lucky buy-out, I still don't know how to approach big capital.
I tried emailing them directly, but realized this is going to go nowhere, so I stopped that bullshit.
Yesterday I watched a tv show with super hot chicks selling real estate in Hollywood. And I got an idea. The energy always opens the door to do it the way you truly enjoy, you just have to see it. I will get hot chicks and go party where big capital goes. In clubs one way or another they anyway can't resist but to ask me more about me.. I guess no matter how much capital they got they miss energy - life juice.
I know my story is not at the end yet. And maybe it will be more interesting in the months to come, however I talked yesterday with one guy and he said that this is so rare, for a guy to make it and lose it and make it again and lose it again and make it again, that I should write a book.
I am against writing a book, I wrote two of them - both bestsellers. One guestwritten, one more sold than the bible in my country in 2011.
So, listen, about capital preservation, I am not your guy.
However, I never lost capital in business. Both times after making a million I'd lose it partying and not caring about it. Which tells me I might have a pretty decent formula on making it from zero.
This is my only secret: focus.
See absolutely nothing but your end result. Sleep eat and dream about it.
Note, I didn't say hard work, as my 43 million company I built mostly working under 3hrs a day.
Note I didn't say investment. First and third time I made a million with zero investment. Second time with 100k later turned to be 200k. For which I generously volounteered 50% of income and I respected it to the point my friend and the investor told me - that no one else would respect the deal this much. I said, I am aware, however also I don't know many people that would give me money without any paper, without any guarantee, with me just saying: "hey man, I have a good idea, need 100k, wanna invest?".
Respect breeds respect. Loyalty breeds loyalty.
If I could do it 3 times, and I have really good chances to do it also in a parallel business within next 2 years (also from absolute zero, the biz now barely, but finances itself, and requires a bunch of my energy initially)... I won't go ahead of time... to say it will be 4th time... I will for my personal challenge and one day a cool story make sure I don't invest one single outside penny to it... if I could do it, obsessed with chicks, with my back hurting, attention disorter at the fullest... brother, so can you.
Surely, in this one I got "lucky" - actually my long built 'reputation' paid off. However, that too, in a sense, I earned.
The point is - if you try long enough and much enough - you too are destined to be lucky.
The secret is, you must be ready to evolve personally. A gift usually comes wrapped in a challenge. For me, that was:
1) I am a control freak, I am the one spanking a chick not enjoying being spanked... my challenge was, for the first time this opportunity presented itself in a way where I had to build, trust and rely 100% on the other party (the AI team).
2) I am a free spirit. I came to the most prestigeous copywriting hall of fame events, with media owners, all famous guys Jay Abraham, Dan Kennedy, Doberman Dan, Gary Bencivenga, son of Gary Halbert, ... a bunch of guys, nicely dressed and me in a shirt with a stripper on saying: "I support single moms". Day 1 they'd look at me. Day 5 - they'd be waiting outside for me to get out to hang with me. So now the main challenge I got was framed in a world I never thought highly off, I have to do it in a way that my not-bending-over attitude won't be a deal breaker for them, and yet I get the message accross. The partying is ideal idea. It came again, with focus.
So my lesson for today for you is - if you think you want it enough, and you don't have it yet - well - want it more.
Know precisely what you want. And... the accellerator of all:
deliver value.
Help people get what they want and they will be your best friends in helping you achieve what you want.
Yours,
Testosterone
P.S. One day I'll share with you one important, but not so glorious part about how to be broke to achieve riches. Most people limit their ability to progress by wanting too much of a future life and not enjoying the current life they got. Be appreciative. Gratitude for the air you're breathing, for safety under your blanket, for love of people around you, should be high enough to keep you happy, while motivated to achieve more. I love you. If I wouldn't, I would never share this secret that took me decades to discover. The biggest secrets are so deceivingly simple. The biggest achievements seem so easy and subtle. Because when the formula is right, the compound works.
03-25-2019 04:15 PM
#2
testosterone (Member)
Thanks for your questions - my answers will follow here, or in PM if you find it more suitable.
I won't check frequently, but I will make sure to answer you. Thank you.
03-25-2019 04:36 PM
#3
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)
Although some stuff you wrote down is hard to believe (it's just a feeling I have, so don't feel attacked pls), you sure know how to trigger people to continue reading!
03-25-2019 04:38 PM
#4
testosterone (Member)

Originally Posted by
stickupkid
Although some stuff you wrote down is hard to believe (it's just a feeling I have, so don't feel attacked pls), you sure know how to trigger people to continue reading!
Haha, you don't know me, do you?
03-25-2019 04:58 PM
#5
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)
Only An Idiot Can Become 3 Times A Millionaire From Zero - So I Did! (Details here)

Originally Posted by
testosterone
Haha, you don't know me, do you?
Not at all mate, living under a rock sometimes haha. I am not saying you talking bs, I am having a hard time to believe such a story 🤷*♂️.
Doesn’t matter too since your last part sums up some pretty good stuff we can learn from. Focus, treat people how you want to be treatened, combined with some luck and a long breath can “bring” people far!
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03-25-2019 06:40 PM
#6
testosterone (Member)
doesn't matter bro, but such things can discourage others. I for example wasn't even participating in STM for a while, so I have no "reputation" to gain by sharing this. For the second 43 mil venture you have at least 15 guys on STM who can witness as just STM affiliates alone brought in at least $500k+ in commissions.
About this new one, well haha, since I have some slots I can give one of the mods a free week, he can keep the profits - just not you - no pun intended, just I don't respect pessimists. I respect people who say: I can, it's possible, I believe... and even if I made up all three stories - still make use of it and make some money.
You are a mod here, you must think of consequences of your writing. Yours can only discourage someone who didn't have it in him enough to cross the gap without my help... and I add say +10 to his power and you deduct -2... and to many it will still help, but to some --> +9 will be needed and you just made it impossible for them.
So if you're the lone case it's alright, but as a mod, you can spend some time like go through STM history, including probably the most valuable post ever written, by me on Unicorn in affiliate marketing... you can ask the guys who vouched for me -- all known names here - so ask them do I exist or not before deducting points and seeding doubt in the minds of eager guys who want to finally break that success barrier.
I had the longest success barrier I know of... started early, didn't earn shit for ages yet worked hard. At 22 I made, but I started as a kid, full days spending working, and of course immaturity and lack of skill, focus, even biggie for me staying at one project long enough... delayed my results. As a community mod, your focus should be empowering people making them achieve their dreams even easier. But you know that all, don't you? I am just a guy who remembered STM after like two years not being present... and came to pay respect to my dear community. Peace.
03-25-2019 07:30 PM
#7
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
testosterone
doesn't matter bro, but such things can discourage others. I for example wasn't even participating in STM for a while, so I have no "reputation" to gain by sharing this. For the second 43 mil venture you have at least 15 guys on STM who can witness as just STM affiliates alone brought in at least $500k+ in commissions.
About this new one, well haha, since I have some slots I can give one of the mods a free week, he can keep the profits - just not you - no pun intended, just I don't respect pessimists. I respect people who say: I can, it's possible, I believe... and even if I made up all three stories - still make use of it and make some money.
You are a mod here, you must think of consequences of your writing. Yours can only discourage someone who didn't have it in him enough to cross the gap without my help... and I add say +10 to his power and you deduct -2... and to many it will still help, but to some --> +9 will be needed and you just made it impossible for them.
So if you're the lone case it's alright, but as a mod, you can spend some time like go through STM history, including probably the most valuable post ever written, by me on Unicorn in affiliate marketing... you can ask the guys who vouched for me -- all known names here - so ask them do I exist or not before deducting points and seeding doubt in the minds of eager guys who want to finally break that success barrier.
I had the longest success barrier I know of... started early, didn't earn shit for ages yet worked hard. At 22 I made, but I started as a kid, full days spending working, and of course immaturity and lack of skill, focus, even biggie for me staying at one project long enough... delayed my results. As a community mod, your focus should be empowering people making them achieve their dreams even easier. But you know that all, don't you? I am just a guy who remembered STM after like two years not being present... and came to pay respect to my dear community. Peace.
I have been around on STM for a while and I have read your stories yes.
Let me repeat, I am not saying your talkin BS, it’s just hard to believe. That’s quite a difference.
In all honesty getting bankrupt after having 43 mil is quite unbelievable.
03-25-2019 08:08 PM
#8
-ticon- (Member)
I would love to know what you spent 43mil on?
Should be a story in and of its own I'm sure...or perhaps even a book! 
Would love a quick summary...
03-25-2019 08:44 PM
#9
testosterone (Member)

Originally Posted by
-ticon-
I would love to know what you spent 43mil on?
Should be a story in and of its own I'm sure...or perhaps even a book!
Would love a quick summary...
Haha - 43 - 50% went to partner. Merchant account and amex problem took like 800k... so my clean cash was significantly less, don't know the exact number though... Got a nightclub it cost me 500k before I decided to not do it anymore, got apartment 500k+, spent 500k on AdWords idea, got my family cars and apps,... rest I really have no fucking idea... yes, got Lambo, Aston DBS,.. 3 years worth of living and partying I guess... and some ventures that didn't pan out fine. I'd wish to tell you a glam story, but there was none, I really didn't feel any of it. I spent that time actually for the first time ever being depressed. That's why the headline "an idiot"

-- now I am a bit smarter.
Edit: a BIT smarter, not much. I still plan on opening another club! You have to live. I know many rich guys cheap fucks... with me at least everybody had a good time and nobody had any harm... maybe a sore dick or two lol
03-25-2019 11:31 PM
#10
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Nice story man.
I know that stuff myself, by far not in these dimensions but I also had these times where I built something really good, made much money, stopped working and just enjoyed life and spent money for parties and what else.
Then suddenly the day comes where money is empty so I sat down, came up with the next thing, made good money again, stopped working, spent money for parties and shit, money is empty, start again with something new and so on.
All the best for your future projects.
03-26-2019 02:36 AM
#11
maynzie (Moderator)
We meet again my friend - I'm glad to know you're still around haha!
The yo-yo pendulum, its real. Next time I hope you can find a way to create alignment with your life and accept the success you find yourself in 
- At least you've probably got some wicked stories lol, and you're still here on this Earth not shied away by those experiences. I can relate to some of this too, but you're a wolf so keep hungry you'll rise again you always seem to do Mr. Testosterone
03-26-2019 07:00 AM
#12
testosterone (Member)

Originally Posted by
maynzie
We meet again my friend - I'm glad to know you're still around haha!
The yo-yo pendulum, its real. Next time I hope you can find a way to create alignment with your life and accept the success you find yourself in
- At least you've probably got some wicked stories lol, and you're still here on this Earth not shied away by those experiences. I can relate to some of this too, but you're a wolf so keep hungry you'll rise again you always seem to do Mr. Testosterone
Thank you my friend. You said something really important here and it might go unnoticed how important it is. If I said it, it would be yet-another psychological BS, so I am very glad you did... you said: "accept the success you find yourself in" - this is true. My whole life I had fear of success. I'd make it, because I am super capable, more than capable than is needed to make this money - I am probably the most precise copywriter on the planet. I truly would know the reason for EVERY word in my ads, would write them in one go and would usually outperform big names in the first attempt. Take my testosterone project for example: The project ended up spending over million dollars on the vsl alone. The winner after others failed was my letter written in 4 hrs and expanded with the facts and science by other copywriter. The reason: proper angle -- while top copywriters (10k-50k+ per letter guys (top being with bonuses 200k)) would approach it from: "sinister government conspiracy to demasculinize you", "4 enemies of your manhood" etc etc such bullshit. I, of course after thinking, daydreaming and frustration... I approached it simply: "get your boner back, naturally" - no need to pop in a pill before or anything... this was the instant game changer. The rest is history.
So fear of success was with me all my life - repeated by my father you have to fight in life... it is what I am trying to break out of ever since. I'd make big money on multiple occasions, even in events when it wouldn't be in million range and wouldn't fit for this story... I'd make, yet only to have it vanish who the fuck knows where. And more importantly, I could make money on paper, digitally... but the moment I'd start spending it - the story would change...
It is only now, in recent years that I got a completely different girlfriend, that got my spendings in-check (50k a month is not normal if you are not doing anything special)... with her I managed to get down to average salary and live more happily than ever.
Now I think the progress is here to stay... depending on how disciplined with the club I'll be.
Thank you for your badass and caring feedback my friend! It reminds me of what I have to work on. Again.
And regarding stories... I people say a truck load of chicks... I was importing like "bus-load" of chicks plus a van extra with go-go dancers from another country. Having two managers in that country full time scouting for chicks sending me pics like my own personal Tinder... yes, was fun... yet it isn't love neither real... hoes are designed to spend you money. Good girls to help you make it. Men in life need both, let's be realistic, but be careful, not to give your heart to a hoe and not recognize then a true love when you meet it.
It is one of the most important life lessons. If you get hurt relationship-wise, and many of us do... you have to own it, get balls that on the next opportunity you go all in and give it a chance. Pussies (of men) scare and close... when the opportunity you waited for your whole life opens up - go balls deep - open up your heart, love.
I tell you after more flashy lifestyle than many here had, that true hapiness... and I mean true... might sound cliche, but it's true - true happiness is free.
When I was spending like crazy I was basically spending in order to 'quicker' find what I was looking for - the real chick, real love.
And how could I find it if I instead of "hello" approach girl by putting finger in her mouth?
Designed to attract the wrong type.
So one day basically the luck hit me - I came to visit a friend in the club... I didn't order anything, I came to him and THEN I met the right girl... and all that time when I was like "designing the stage" to meet many... I didn't.
All best things in my life were free. I am sure if you're honest with yourself in yours too.
Peace.
03-26-2019 09:00 AM
#13
cristi (Member)
Congrats for you achievements however the forex trading offer makes no much sense. If it works as you say why the founders will deal with headaches of giving it to other people? If they or you had 10k to invert that will make $1,150,307,932,023,585 in 10 years at 5% a week. And of course all those investing 1 million will become the richest people in the world in just a few years...
03-26-2019 05:06 PM
#14
testosterone (Member)

Originally Posted by
cristi
Congrats for you achievements however the forex trading offer makes no much sense. If it works as you say why the founders will deal with headaches of giving it to other people? If they or you had 10k to invert that will make $1,150,307,932,023,585 in 10 years at 5% a week. And of course all those investing 1 million will become the richest people in the world in just a few years...
Exactly. And such offer will never be made public. However, it doesn't really work that way - as over 100k it is hard to find 500:1 leverage it needs, etc. And yes they do have their million + accs. IF you want, find one of the mods to test it out with 10k, he can keep all the profit. Your math is theoretical, not realistic. First, max investment is 2m - I think I mentioned it somewhere per acc. Second, to be able to order something you need to pair that order, and once your order becomes so big that it changes the market, then your trading must become different too. It is profitable on under 2m accounts and gets what it does. Now how could I answer your theoretical question -- like imagine your mom bought you a Ferrari, and I come and ask you: "why would your mom buy you a Ferrari, hmmm?" -- You know whether she did or didn't, right?
However, I do have free slots, one of the mods can reach out to me on skype and I'll set it up at my expense for a week. If this solves any of your concerns lol. The moral of the story is what you can take from it though.
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