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Normal Bot Traffic % in Pops? (13)

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So I tried out Caurmen's bot test using the iframe code in one geo as a preliminary test for the first time, and so far it looks like 85% of the clicks are bots:



(The top row shows the clicks to the bot offer) Theoretically if there were no bots there would be 0 clicks to it!


Is this normal or not? I've never ran a bot test before so this scared me a lot, or maybe I set up the code wrong but I'm quite sure I set it correctly. according to instructions.

This really scares me and I"m quite concerned about where my money's going as I was planning to launch a campaign here but seems it'll take quite some work to go through all these pubs and blacklist them.

FYI this is propellerads

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Hey!
Ah wow! Can't believe in it. Could you please share with us, what source did you use for this test? I've never met so big % of bots. Usually it's around 10%, in good sources 1-5%.

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I used propellerads (as mentioned in the original post).

Yes it was super surprising, maybe I did the test wrong, here's what I did (according to Caurmen's guide):

Put this before </head> tag on the lander:

<script>
u1 = "https://trackingdomain.com";
u2 = "click.php?lp=1&to_offer=2";
document.write('<iframe src="' + u1 + "/" + u2 + '"></iframe>');
</script>

(offer 2 is the bot test offer)

and this before </body> tag:

<style>iframe {
visibility: hidden;
position: absolute;
left: 0; top: 0;
height:0; width:0;
border: none;
}</style>

I'm pretty sure I did this correctly, but if any experts can help me out let me know.

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What does the placement breakup look like? There are definitely placements with 80%+ bots so if these sent you the majority of the visits, the numbers can look like that. Take a look at that and check whether the visits came predominantly from a few large placements or it was distributed more evenly.

It also depends on the GEO, there is more bots in some.

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Literally all the placements are like this so far, I'm blacklisting all of them that hit 100 clicks so new publishers keep rolling in but no relatively bot-free placements so far!

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Hm, the % you see is too high, shouldn't be like that. Try to up the bid, to see if you start seeing better results. With low bids, sometimes you get traffic from placements that nobody else wants, so that could explain the high bot %.

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please for link on Carumen's bot test. I cannot find it

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Could you explain how "bot test script" works in Binom? I try to figure out.
Binom docs: https://docs.binom.org/events.php

So "if" condition means BOT, right?

<script>
if (typeof(window.orientation)=="undefined")
{
var o = document.createElement("img");
o.src='http://tracker.net/click.php?event9=0';
}
else
{
var o = document.createElement("img");
o.src='http://tracker.net/click.php?event9=1';
}
</script>

But I do not understand, why script create "img" element.


I would use something like:

<script>
if (typeof(window.orientation)=="undefined")
{
var outGoingLink = 'http://tracker.net/click.php?event9=0';
}
else
{
var outGoingLink='http://tracker.net/click.php?event9=1';
}
</script>

(and later in code, var "outGoingLink" use as an exit link)
Or I am missing something..

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Caurmen wrote two BOT test threads as far as I remember, this was the first one: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...paign&p=268969 and there is the "newer" one: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Live-Campaigns

Both methods use the same logic, which is that the more simple BOTs cannot understand javascript, so they will not get through the java autoredirect. It still works to this day for a large part of BOTs, but it's by no means 100% so keep that in mind please.

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Well it checks the window.orientation parameter and depending on a results sends according event value to your tracker.
Not sure why you have img element - ask our support, they will help you.

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So I realized I was reading the stats wrong...

The correct interpretation is the inverse of what I initially said, so it's 85% non-bots!

LOL

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Ahhh. It's already can be true. But are you sure that other 15% are bots?

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Ok this would explain it 85% is really too much, it does happen with certain placements, but shouldn't be that high for the whole mix.

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