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[Question] Facebook Ads - Use of Digital Ocean and LP Domains (8)


03-09-2019 10:16 PM #1 beirutbaba (Member)
[Question] Facebook Ads - Use of Digital Ocean and LP Domains

Hello STMers,

I am decently experienced with native traffic and i've been trying to make the transition to facebook/google lately which i only have bits and pieces of knowledge because they are completely different traffic sources to me and i was curious about the use of digital ocean for each domain.

Ive seen people purchase a droplet for each of their domains and use them with only 1 of their ad accounts and do this multiple times for each ad account. They also run each domain through Cloudflare.

My Questions about this:

1.Can someone help explain why it is a better idea to do it this way instead of purchasing one server and using that server to have multiple LP's with their respective domains on it? Isn't it cheaper/easier this way? especially if an account is disabled permanently early on, you would lose the ad accounts plus each of those servers right?

2. How do they manage each server/put their LP's on each server in a cheap and effective way without having hundreds of different logins and passwords for each server. Ive only had experience with using one server with Filezilla for native so i'm a little confused.

3. Do people do it this way because each droplet has its individual server IP? If so, Why does each domain have to have its own server IP & why does this matter if you're running them all under the same BM ?

Thanks


03-11-2019 11:12 PM #2 beirutbaba (Member)

Anyone have any advice on this ?


03-12-2019 02:12 AM #3 thedudeabides (Moderator)

I'm assuming you're talking about cloaking here? Otherwise no reason to bother with servers when you can use a CDN to host sites.


03-13-2019 06:54 AM #4 stubbornmule (Member)

Hi beirutbaba,

"you would lose the ad accounts plus each of those servers right?"

No you wouldn't lose the servers, you would lose the domain if you get a policy violation. So you couldn't reuse that domain, but the server is fine. You can reuse the same server and yes have multiple LP's on it.

This is just my opinion though, I'm not too fond of fb nowadays. I'm actually trying to do the opposite of what your doing, trying to get into native and leave Facebook alone for a bit.


03-13-2019 11:29 AM #5 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

People do this to eliminate all the trays for FB to follow, so they cannot connect the dots and ban multiple accounts at once. Noone really knows how exactly facebook identifies related accounts, but they have their ways and are getting better at it. So some blackhat affiliates really take the extra steps to ensure it's not so easy for FB to detect the patterns.

2. How do they manage each server/put their LP's on each server in a cheap and effective way without having hundreds of different logins and passwords for each server. Ive only had experience with using one server with Filezilla for native so i'm a little confused.
I'd expect them to use special management tools that can automatically upload to multiple locations, using a regular FTP client to upload stuff to dozens and dozens of different hosts/domains would be kind of an overkill. Sure, it's manageable to some extent, but the really large setups have this automated.

3. Do people do it this way because each droplet has its individual server IP? If so, Why does each domain have to have its own server IP & why does this matter if you're running them all under the same BM ?
Yes, the different IPs play a role here and they can use multiple BMs too.


04-03-2019 06:47 PM #6 beirutbaba (Member)

@matuloo thank you for your reply!

Just a follow up question. In your opinion, would it be a good idea to just deploy multiple droplets inside the same server and dedicate 1 server to all BM's in a single ad account? that way they all have their own individual IP's and theres no need for purchasing a bunch of small droplets separately and having to log into each one to deploy LP's etc. because they will each technically all have their own folder in the FTP client?

Please correct me if i'm wrong or if its kind of repetitive.


04-03-2019 07:57 PM #7 bumbarda (Member)

We support automatic droplet creation via API for DO and AWS in Zeustrak. Setting up a new server takes 5 minutes and you get safe page solution plus zero redirect tracking. You don't have to deal with FTP if you keep your landers inside Zeustrak, no tech skills required.

Also it's not always the case that you can't use your domain after policy violation, but most people use one domain per one account.


04-03-2019 09:13 PM #8 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by beirutbaba View Post
@matuloo thank you for your reply!

Just a follow up question. In your opinion, would it be a good idea to just deploy multiple droplets inside the same server and dedicate 1 server to all BM's in a single ad account? that way they all have their own individual IP's and theres no need for purchasing a bunch of small droplets separately and having to log into each one to deploy LP's etc. because they will each technically all have their own folder in the FTP client?

Please correct me if i'm wrong or if its kind of repetitive.
I'm no server setup pro, but I don't think you can do it this way. You can share the same FTP acccess for multiple domains, but they will be on the same "server" and will share the same IP. I think that you need a separate droplet to get a new IP, then you can create multiple domains in it. I might be wrong though, my experience with digital ocean is limited.


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