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01-14-2019 07:08 AM #1 sarahzou (Member)
sweepstakes follow-along

Hello, Everyone

i began to run sweepstakes from last week, as i see it is still a profitable niche. As i have around 3 years experience in this industry As an AM, and it is not difficult for me to find good advertiser and traffic sources. and i have tested utilities last and it get some profit, but right now utilities is not as good as before, also there are less adv in the market.

i have went through many forums and learned a lot from the master mind in this forum, i would like to write this thread to follow along my beginning to run the sweepstakes until there is stable profit.

i have ready Amy's 40 day tutorial https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...w-2019-Version which i strong recommend for the newbie.

traffic sources: popads
advertiser:Q
tracking: Binom
i use Binom at the suggestions of many people in this forum. Last year i used voluun, but it has increased a lot in this service fee.

there is not much problem to set the tracking between tracker, affiliate network platform and the traffic source platform.
and i do the setting according to this forum as well https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...aign-on-popads. i buy traffic souce from propeller ads last year when i run the utilites.

1. we have added the bot traffic detecting code
2. we have run three offers, the following is the screenshot of the landing page of two AU Iphone X offers
iphoneX





and the following is the screenshot of the landing page of the Amazon offer



3. we have run this offers for 4 days already, below is the statics showed at Binom, we got only clicks but no conversion, we still would like to keep testing as it is a way to test the traffic source. but i am not sure whether it is the landing page outdated which we use spied.




would like to hear your opinions and will keep this thread on.


01-14-2019 05:39 PM #2 escobar (Member)

Images doesn't work.


01-14-2019 10:00 PM #3 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by escobar View Post
Images doesn't work.
They do, just click the links.

But yes, for the future, sarahzou please upload them to imgur and then use the "share url" to embed them into your post directly. That works much better


01-17-2019 09:54 AM #4 sarahzou (Member)

Thanks, will do next time,thanks guys


01-17-2019 10:21 AM #5 sarahzou (Member)

Second week

I have changed Advertiser with the offer only requires for the email filled, the first three ones require the user to fill the address and postcode which may results in the low conversion rate.

and i also dont use the landing page for the test which i got a conversion yesterday. I think it is by luck.

advertiser:A
traffic popads
without landing page

5 US - S&P - Walmart $1000 Gift Card Walmart Gift Card PopAds 658 0.00% 1 0.15% $0.00456 $0.00100 $3.00 $0.66 $2.34 355.93%

i think lots of landing page has been outdated in adplexity.
and some landing page we spied are almost the same as the landing page of the offer
so i am wondering
1. how can the landing page increase the conversion rate and making a landing page is a must or not
2. shall i put the bid higher than the average bid at Popads or should i use lower bid to find out the low-quality sub-pub traffic, for i still find some subpubs are with quite lots of clicks which is not normal

your opinions welcome!


01-17-2019 12:00 PM #6 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

1. how can the landing page increase the conversion rate and making a landing page is a must or not
It's about psychology pretty much, the goal is to get the audience to interact with what you offer. Once they start clicking on something, they are more likely to finish the whole signup process. You basically need to "heat them up" a bit. And catchy landing pages are the ideal tool for this. So in most cases, the LP will help ... But only if it's a good LP of course.

2. shall i put the bid higher than the average bid at Popads or should i use lower bid to find out the low-quality sub-pub traffic, for i still find some subpubs are with quite lots of clicks which is not normal
There is not a one fits all answer to this. Based on the countless follow alongs we had here on the forum, for MANY affiliates, the lower bids actually did better than the high ones. But for some, it was the high bids that kicked them into profits. For the starters, I would recommend to go with the lower bidding approach and once you have a solid funnel, try to raise the bids a bit.


01-17-2019 01:12 PM #7 clickhammer (Member)

Hi Sarah,

Great share! First of all I see that you are using quite famous pre-landers and no original angels here. So that might be a thing.
Another thing I see is that your Youtube angle doesn't match the angle of your campaigns so that might be resulting in abandons.
Last tip I can give you is to mention somewhere that they need to complete the survey.
These kind of surveys heavily depend on the quality of the traffic.
We'd love to help you even more so could you contact me jeroen@qubiqdigital.com so we can share our insights?


01-17-2019 02:36 PM #8 sarahzou (Member)

thanks, Matuloo. Will try to keep low budget and test different landing pages. It is a great experience to have the mastermind around and learning new things


01-17-2019 02:40 PM #9 sarahzou (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by clickhammer View Post
Hi Sarah,

Great share! First of all I see that you are using quite famous pre-landers and no original angels here. So that might be a thing.
Another thing I see is that your Youtube angle doesn't match the angle of your campaigns so that might be resulting in abandons.
Last tip I can give you is to mention somewhere that they need to complete the survey.
These kind of surveys heavily depend on the quality of the traffic.
We'd love to help you even more so could you contact me jeroen@qubiqdigital.com so we can share our insights?

Thanks Jeroen for reaching me on skype and has giving lots of good insights about the landing page. Qubiqdigital is with lots of direct sweepstakes offers, and i will keep testing.

Welcome more people to share different insights, PM me


01-18-2019 02:17 AM #10 sarahzou (Member)

US - S&P - Walmart $1000 Gift Card Walmart Gift Card PopAds 8,998 0.00% 2 0.02% $0.00067 $0.00100 $6.00 $9.00 ($3.00) -33.32%
i have got another conversion by keep testing the direct link without landing page.
today will make a landing page at the suggestion of matuloo and clickhammer.


01-18-2019 09:37 AM #11 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by clickhammer View Post
These kind of surveys heavily depend on the quality of the traffic.
We'd love to help you even more so could you contact me jeroen@qubiqdigital.com so we can share our insights?
Why not help the whole STM community by posting the insights here on the forum? We would all appreciate it


01-27-2019 09:23 AM #12 vortex (Senior Moderator)

A nice beginning! Wish you all the best!

And apologies for replying late. Matuloo and other members have answered the majority of your questions. I want to comment on 2 things: Regarding landing page being "outdated", and regarding how much to bid.

In the beginning, if you run an unproven offer with an unproven offer on traffic you've never run before, you'd be flying blind. If you don't get the conversions you want, you won't know whether it's because your offer is bad, or lander, or the traffic.

This is why you need to make all 3 elements - offer, lander, and traffic quality - as good as you can, to give the camp the best chances of reaching profits.

How do you do that?

Offer - Go with offers that have track record already - recommended by AM as converting well with at least several other affiliates; doing a lot of volume over a few days or more according to Adplexity; etc.

And of course, where possible AT ALL, test more than one offer right from the beginning. Otherwise, if that single offer is a dud, it would create a bottleneck and you won't get any conversions.

Landers - Use landers that have received a lot of traffic according to Adplexity. And landers that you see all over the place. If so many people are still running high traffic to them, they must still be converting. Again, you need to use something that has a good track record!

And make sure you pick 5 or more landers to give the campaign the best chances to succeed! Optimize them so they load fast, display well in major devices and browsers, and function properly.

Traffic - Bid average or slightly above to ensure traffic quality is not the bottleneck.

It's not really necessary to bid high at the beginning. You only need traffic quality to be good enough to give you the conversions you need to cut down to a good offer+lander. When you do, and if stats look promising, you can always test bids then.

But that's just my way - please feel free to test other approaches!


Important: Once you have found a decent offer and lander, you will have a BENCHMARK, which will allow you to test UNPROVEN stuff. E.g.:

-You can test any other lander you see on adplexity, or custom designed yourself, or variations of your winning lander. This is because you already have a proven offer and proven traffic quality, so if your new lander doesn't do well, you KNOW it's because of the lander, not the offer or the traffic.

Extending the same reasoning: You can test new offers with the proven winning lander and traffic with the original bid. And you can also test different bids with a proven offer and proven lander.

Hope that helps!



Amy

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