Shiny Object Syndrome (7)
So for the past few months I have been doing a lot of research on the model I would like to pursue.
Long-term I would like to focus on white hat models. The two models I have narrowed down to are niche sites and e-commerce (building a brand as opposed to dropshipping is preferred).
I know for either of these models I would like to drive traffic from facebook. I also have a budget of 3k.
After reviewing some threads with similar questions I see the common suggestion is to try the 40-day pop challenge. I am just curious if that would translate to the white hat models I see myself doing long-term?
Thanks in advance.
Hey @nolimitz!
Whitehat and building a brand is a good longterm plan.
It also means that the process will be a bit longer and it will require good amount of efforts in the beginning.
Blackhat is a more short term thing, it's many time jumping from one offer to another and lot of hustle especially when it comes to accounts and stuff.
But in reality BH is short term not because it's going to die, but mainly because your accounts will get ban, but I believe BH will always around in some way.
The 40-day pop challenge will help you to understand media buying, you will learn how to setup your tracking, spend money and optimise your campaigns, work with reps at affiliate networks and traffic sources, negotiating payouts and other communication and marketing skills.
All these skills adds up, so I consider them quite useful, even if you will switch to something else in the future.
I still understand the shiny object syndrome, everyone of us experiences it all the time.
But you simply have to choose and start somewhere.
The most important is to take action and start moving forward.
All the best man!
Whats up Mr. Nolimitz!
The thing with building a brand is it will take a bit more then your $3k budget to get it off the ground tbh, it becomes a bit more like real traditional business out there with some time involved in the incubating period and money purely spent on developing the brand. But maybe you could find a synergy between traditional dropshipping ecom to begin to build some profits/cashflow (faster returns) and also learn the ropes of FB campaigns/optimising approaches while learning how to create control of your own products and funnels as you move along the process.
And the shiny object syndrome is very real haha, and it gets everyone haha!
Pick something, stay focused on it. You can make all avenues of AM work you just gotta become a master at it with patience and due diligence.
I would try my luck on FB, you can blend the tracking tutorials of the 40 day guide and try and run some WH offers (A4d, giddyup, direct offers club, DFO there is more out there if you do some research) on Facebook start small get the foundations right make sure you learn how to track and then away you go 
BH and WH both will be here, no matter whatever happens. To build a e-commerce brand, you need much more than just traffic, like branding, customer support, good products (to a point). 40 day course is great to learn the ropes of affiliate marketing. That's why i suggest to start from there.
Btw 3k budget is one time or monthly?
LeadCloak
Wow thanks everyone for recommending the 40-day tutorial!
To nolimitz: The 40-day tutorial is great in that it will build initial momentum by taking most of the decision-making out of the process (until the latter lessons anyway). You will see progress, and conversions, and those will motivate you to keep going. You'll still learn knowledge (like Erik said) about media buying etc. that will be transferable to other traffic types.
However, if you have your heart SET on doing FB in the long run, and not afraid of the steeper learning curve, then I would suggest to skip pop to start FB right now.
Caurmen has written an ecommerce tutorial - it's stickied in the ecommerce forum section. Alternatively, stickupkid's threads on running sweeps offers on FB are gold. You WILL need to get access to FB accounts as it IS possible to lose accounts. Although if you use compliant angles on your landers and only promote clean-looking offers, the risks of getting banned are minimal. (I know people that have run sweeps for many months without getting a single ban.)
Both of those will help you get started on Facebook. And as Maynzie has pointed out, dropshipping from aliexpress may be a good start while you're learning the ropes. It's certainly still possible to make profits from this model (although I wouldn't suggest staying in this model because it would be hard to have an edge over competition). And once you know which products you can make profitable, you can look into sourcing directly from suppliers, shipping in bulk to a local warehouse / fulfillment centre, and selling the goods locally in the target country.
With FB though, you may not get conversions or your first profitable campaign as early as you would with pop. So if you go this route, you'll need to be patient and not give up before you see the light at the end of the tunnel. Although I wrote the 40-day pop tutorial, I would recommend for affiliates to pick FB over pop ANYDAY as long as they have the patience to stick with it long enough to overcome the initial learning curve. Pop traffic is fragmented and competition is high, plus google's measures are getting stricter and stricter so pop landers are getting blocked and domains getting flagged more and more often. Whereas FB won't be going anywhere any time soon.
Best of luck with your endeavors!
Amy
@erik thank you for your response. I will take your advice and focus on taking action without getting too distracted!
@maynzie thank you for comment, yes unfortunately my budget right now is only 3k...Im fully prepared to lose it for the sake of learning. I will check out those networks you mentioned. At the same time I found some other threads that suggested using these networks simply as a means to find what is in demand with high margins (since they have to pay ams as well)
@leadcloak thanks for responding. Yes it’s 3k total.
@vortex thank you for your reply. I certainly have the patience. I’ll checkout stickcupid and caurmens threads as well. What I want more than anything is to create a long-term brand, but if you suggest drop shipping as the way to gain understanding I will heed to your advice.
Ive seen all of you guys all over the forum, thank you 🙏 for all the value you offer! I hope to contribute soon.
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