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The Journey to become a Super Affiliate (14)

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Hi everyone,

I signup STM Forums about 2 months ago, tested a few offers, didn’t see any significant results and getting lost now. I think that it is better for a newbie like me to start a Follow Along thread and post it out everything I had done for the campaigns so that I monitor my progress and hopefully others member may help to look and provide the opinions, we can also exchange our opinion instead of struggling by myself.

I have some basic background for SEO and helping some clients manage their websites’ SEO. Being a total newbie in affiliate marketing, I hope one day I’ll be able to really “earn significant money online at home”, without the need to serve the clients. It’s been a while I searching around for the good courses to learn Affiliate Marketing. Finally, I found STM Forum and I’m super glad that Vortex wrote a super newbie friendly tutorials which are “Vortex' 40-Day Tutorial 2018 (Voluum)”, (that time the 2019 version haven’t started yet). I felt that this thread is really good, and Amy also explain every step in details. Besides, there is a lot of members would love to lend a hand to me when I am not understanding any steps that mentioned in the threads. (Thanks Amy!)

After two months following Amy tutorial, and testing with some offers, I think I have a better understanding on how’s this game roll. As what I understand now, Testing is the key to success in Affiliate Marketing. But the question is whether am I currently Testing in a correct way or Testing in a wasting way? I do not have enough experience to judge on this, hopefully, by starting a walk along thread, I can get the help from fellow members to guide me whether I’m doing it right or not.

And now, I am going to summaries with what I had done for each offers that I’ve run before, then continue with the new current progress.

Here are the campaigns that I tested during this two months:

1. Lebanon Direct Link Mobile Game
2. Bulgaria Direct Link Mobile Game
3. Singapore Landers iPhone Xs Sweeps
4. Germany Landers Sweeps Cash Voucher
5. Palestine Direct Antivirus
6. South Africa Landers Antivirus
7. Thailand Landers Dating
8. Australia Landers Sweeps Cash Voucher

Currently, due to my domain had been banned by Google, I registered a new domain and stopped all my campaigns. So far I’ve invested about $1000 in Affiliate marketing, not having a real Green campaign yet. To avoid continue burning the money if I’m doing it in a wrong way, I feel that it’s better to stop what I’m doing now, complete this thread to see anyone can give me some advice or not, and wait for Amy to release the latest Optimization tutorials 2019.

I’ll prepare the posts of my journal for each campaign I run, and posting here one by one within the next few days. Please feel free to leave any comments or advice, I'm happy to learn and excited about the opportunities to know more members here.

Thanks!

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My 1st Campaign: Lebanon Campaign (8 Oct – 12 Oct)
Campaign Details:-
Offer Name: 18665 - Games - LB - Alfa - Ouigames
Country: Lebanon
Payout: $1.12
Billing: SMS Billing, Pin Optin
· When I was started my first campaign, it is a direct linking campaign. I had followed the steps that taught from Amy and choose this campaign from Mobidea.
· As for the tracker, I try to use the Tracking Desk as I bought it during Appsumo Life time deal before, so I give it a try.
· With the help of the support from the Tracking Desk, I successfully set up the tracking and run the campaign by getting the traffic from Propellerads.
· At first I run with fixed CPM mode, the traffics were very slow. After receiving an advise from the forum, I changed to Smart CPM, and it bring higher traffic volume now.
· The total I spend in this campaign is $12.28 for 4 days, got 2 conversion (so excited when I saw my 1^st conversion, Haha)
· However, considering the traffic is low (can’t finish $20 in a day according to Amy’s tutorial), and it failed the kill-whitelist calculator, then I decided to cut it.
· Didn’t manage to do much optimization works, and that time I haven’t start the journal, it bring me a lessons that without a journal, I will typically forgotten everything.
· Therefore, I had stopped this campaign and continue for the next offer.
· By the way, something funny happened was although I got only 2 conversion, but my revenue in Mobidea showing more than what I suppose to get for the 2 conversions (which should be $2.24) I check with Mobidea why there are extra on the payouts, they mentioned that’s the revenue from Smartlinks that converted, and there are not able to tell what offers is it because it’s the random offer. That’s how I learn what’s Smartlinks in Mobidea.

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My 2nd Campaign: Bulgaria Campaign (14 November – 1 December)
Campaign Details:-
Offer Name: 19283 - Mobile Content - BG - Vivacom + 3G - download4u
Country: Bulgaria
Payout: $1.40
Billing: Direct Billing, Double Optin (3G) SMS Billing, Pin Optin (WiFi)
Reason of choosing this offer
· Campaign details are met the instruction that mentioned by Amy
· Higher opportunity than previous campaign, so I decided to choose this offer
Procedure
· Tracking Desk make me very hard to follow Vortex’s tutorial as it’s different setting with the tutorial, and it make me doubts that whether Tracking Desk is good or not as seems like not many people in the forum using tracking desk. Hence I decided to change the tracker, and after some negotiation with Voluum, I decided to use Voluum.
· I Setup the campaign at Voluum and ProperllerAds. It’s much easier to do the setting in Voluum with Amy’s tutorial.
· Budget for this campaign was $10 per day
· CPM bidding was $1 for the first 3 days and $1.5 start from the 4^th day
· Done some optimization after a week such as remove zone ID, exclude some OS version
· Duplicate one more campaign which only target WiFi traffic.

Result
After running the 3G Campaign for 17 days, and it brings conversions at the beginning but not the end
- Total revenue will be $14
- Total cost was $24.18
- Total profit was (-)$10.18

Besides that, I also run WiFi Campaign for only 3 days and this is the result
- Total revenue will be $2.80
- Total cost was $2.25
- Total profit was (+)$0.55

Question/Problems of this offer
It is quite difficult to increase the conversion even though we had done the optimization like:
- Remove high-cost Zone ID
- Remove OS version that cost high price but not bringing any conversion
- Target specific cities that brings profit
- Specific the device type that brings conversion

After the optimizations steps, the campaign seems like getting worst, so I decided to pause it and start moving to Landers offers.

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Hey buddy,

I don't have any experience in that kind of traffic, but just wanted to offer encouragement! It seems as though you are approaching all this in a super-deliberate and purposeful manner, and from all the businesses I've been involved in that seems to be the most important variable.

There's tons of people who spend their first 1000$ without a single conversion so you're doing way better than them so far!

Only wisdom I might try to offer would be to keep testing tons of offers, I think that's been the key so far, and lots of researching for each of them.

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Hi Jack, thanks for your encouragement!

Yes, one of my purpose to start this walk along thread is to avoid myself getting disappointed and giving up with Affiliate Marketing. Hope to get some motivation and suggestions from the fellow members here to keep moving on.

By the way, you mentioned that you don't have any experience in that kind of traffic, may I know what kind of traffic are you running?

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South Africa Landers Antivirus Campaign (29 Nov – 1 Dec)
Campaign Details:-
Offer 1 (Mobidea)
Name: 14774 - Antivirus - ZA - 3G - Vibrating 2017
Country: South Africa
Paid Out: $1.40
Billing: Direct Billing, Double Optin

Offer 2 (Clickdealer)
Name: (52614) [MOB] ANTIVIRUS: PROTECT YOUR DEVICE /ZA - 2 CLICKS [MTN]
Country: South Africa
Paid Out: $2.40
Billing: dcb (2-click flow)

Offer 3 (Clickdealer)
Name: (53717) [MOB] ANTIVIRUS MOBITOOLS
Country: South Africa
Paid Out: $0.81
Billing: dcb (1-click flow)

Reasons of Choosing This Offer
· Based on Amy’s tutorial, Antivirus offer can convert better by landers
· I choose South Africa offer because it is considered as the third country and it has low paid traffic fees

Procedure
· After I get approved to promote the products, I started to search landers from Adplexity
· I filter the date from January 2018 – November 2018
· Specific language, country and ad type according to the offer
· I had downloaded 6 landing pages and started to edit it by using the method that taught by Amy
· I had added missing getURLParameter Function, remove dates and times from the past and replace the tracking link for the 6 landing pages
· Upload these 6 landing pages to Amazon S3
· Ask approval of my landing page from affiliate manager (AM) of Mobidea and Clickdealer
· AM had rejected my landing pages as it contains threaten text, they recommend me to change another landing page that only talk about the advantages of having antivirus but not forcing them to install the software
· Pick another 6 landing pages from adplexity and edit it then submit to AM again
· After AM had approved my landing page, then I conduct a speed test on my landing page at https://gtmetrix.com and make sure that its loading time is below 2s
· I create campaign at Voluum, make sure the 6 landers are added in the destination path
· I setup a campaign at PropellerAds with CPM bidding $1.65 and $10 for daily budget and start running campaign

Results
1.Clickdealer Offer - (53717) [MOB] ANTIVIRUS MOBITOOLS


Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $6.81
Total Profit: (-) $6.81

2.Mobidea Offer - 14774 - Antivirus - ZA - 3G - Vibrating 2017


Total Conversion: 2
Total Revenue: 1.58
Total Cost: $6.75
Total Profit: (-) $5.17

3.Clickdealer Offer - (52614) [MOB] ANTIVIRUS: PROTECT YOUR DEVICE /ZA - 2 CLICKS [MTN]


Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $6.82
Total Profit: (-) $6.82

Overall Result
Overall Total Conversion: 2
Overall Total Revenue: $1.58
Overall Total Cost: $20.38
Overall Total Profit: (-) $18.79

Landing Page Result
Landing Page 1




Landing Page 2




Landing Page 3




Landing Page 4





Landing Page 5




Landing Page 6




Question/Problems of Offer
1. My average CTR for this Antivirus campaign is about 10-15%, is it consider normal or low?
2. I ran the offers about three days only, spent $20.38, profit $1.58, ROI (-)92.22%. I've currently stopped the campaign. But do you think it's too fast to stop the campaign or I should continue to get more data first?
3. I had seen a lot of landing pages from Adplexity that mostly are threaten content, but why are they still able to run their campaign without get flagged by Google or banned by their Affiliate Manager?
4. Is antivirus landing pages can really convert better if is not using threaten sentences?
5. There is one landing page with a higher CTR (40+%), is it means that if I continue the campaign, I should target more on this landing page?

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Your CTR looks pretty good if you are not using any back button scripts.

For AV you need to scare people and use very aggressive Landers.

Because of the aggression your domains will get banned quick so make sure you buy cheap domains and have new ones ready to switch when you get banned.

Be careful in South Africa, it is in Africa but the traffic can be quite expensive there.

These offers all target different carriers, are you targeting these carriers in your campaigns?

I would pause my campaigns and check with your am to see which campaigns are doing well and run those.

Clickdealer and Gotzha are good networks for av offers.

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Hi eurosen, thanks for your suggestion!

I am targeting only MTN carrier for these 3 offers, and this is my targeting setting at PropellerAds

I had chosen to exclude other carriers because my Clickdealer offer are only allow MTN carrier, is the way of my setting correct? Should I choose to target MTN only or exclude the others carrier?

As for now, you can see that the Mobidea Offer - 14774 has 2 conversions, other no conversion, Landing Page 3 and 4 have conversion, and higher CTR. Shall we pause all other offers and landing pages, focusing on this few enough? Is it too early to justify this?

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Thailand Landers Dating (December 4 – 5)
Offer Details:-
Name: 16748 - Sexy - TH - AIS - Cute Clip
Payout: $0.70
Country: Thailand
Billing: SMS Billing, MO Optin
Reason of Choosing This Offer
· Thailand is third country
· Low paid traffic
· Highest opportunity among the offers


Procedure:-
December 4
- Search offer from Mobidea based on the opportunity lists

- Choose 16748 - Sexy - TH - AIS - Cute Clip offer and get approve for promoting the offer
- Download 3 landing pages from Adplexity
- Edit these landing pages by removing old geturl parameter, past time & date and replace tracking link
- Upload to Amazon S3
- Set up campaign at Voluum and PropellerAds
- Created 2 destination paths at Voluum campaign which are 75% to landing page and 25% direct linking
- Set CPM bidding $0.57 and $10 for the daily budget

December 5
- Stop the campaign

Result

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $10.39
Total Profit: (-) $10.39

Landing Page Result
Landing Page 1

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $2.60
Total Profit: (-) $2.60

Landing Page 2

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $2.64
Total Profit: (-) $2.64

Landing Page 3

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $2.57
Total Profit: (-) $2.57

Direct Linking

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $2.57
Total Profit: (-) $2.57

Question/Problems of the Offer
1. My average CTR for this campaign was 4 – 6%, does it consider low or normal?
2. Am I too early to stop the campaign? Because it cost $10 per day but does not brings any conversion, am I too early to justify?
3. Is it better to create campaign separately for landing page and direct linking?

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Australia Landers Sweeps Cash Voucher (6 – 7 December)

Campaign Details:-
Name: 16302 - Sweepstakes - AU - 3G + Wifi - Win $15.000 Cash
Payout: $2.18
Billing: Signup Form Submit
Country: Australia

Reason of Choosing This Offer
· Best opportunity offers among the others
· Australia is third country


Procedure
December 6
· After getting approve from Mobidea, I search landing pages from adplexity
· Downloaded 4 landing pages and edit with remove not related geturl parameter, remove past date and day, replace tracking link
· Conduct speed testing of the 4 landing pages and ensure the loading time is below 2s
· Create 2 campaign at Voluum, first campaign is target only 3G traffic and second campaign is target only WiFi traffic
· At Voluum, created 2 path destination for each of the campaign which are 75% for landing pages and 25% for direct linking
· Create 2 campaign at PropellerAds (3G & WiFi campaign)
· Set bidding CPM of $1.70 for WiFi campaign and $1.92 for 3G campaign
· Set daily budget of $10 for each campaign

December 7
· Stop campaign after my domain flagged by Google

Result
3G Campaign

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $7.49
Total Profit: (-) $7.49

WiFi Campaign

Total Conversion: 1
Total Revenue: $2.18
Total Cost: $6.50
Total Profit: (-) 4.31

3G Campaign Landing Page Result
Landing Page 1


Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: $0
Total Cost: $1.40
Total Profit: (-) 1.40

Landing Page 2

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $1.45
Total Profit: (-) 1.45

Landing Page 3

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $1.37
Total Profit: (-) 1.37

Landing Page 4

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $1.45
Total Profit: (-) 1.45

Direct Linking

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $1.81
Total Profit: (-) 1.81

WiFi Campaign Landing Page Result
Landing Page 1

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $1.28
Total Profit: (-) 1.28

Landing Page 2
Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $1.22
Total Profit: (-) 1.22

Landing Page 3

Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $1.20
Total Profit: (-) 1.20

Landing Page 4
Total Conversion: 0
Total Revenue: 0
Total Cost: $1.21
Total Profit: (-) 1.21

Direct Linking

Total Conversion: 1
Total Revenue: $2.18
Total Cost: $1.58
Total Profit: (+) 0.60

Question/Problems of Offer
1. The CTR of my 3G campaign is 10% and WiFi campaign is 24% and it brings 1 conversion as well, is that means I should stop 3G campaign and focus on WiFi campaign?
2. Is winning cash offer often get flagged by google?
3. If yes, how are they running their campaign for long time?
4. Our domain get banned also, is it because of this offer?

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Two weeks ago, I found some interesting feature in the Mobidea.

Under the Opportunities Tab, we can see all the Offers performance history and the revenue.

We can further filter by Country - Offers - OS to see what's the best offers running for each country, how much the revenue they made, what's the best performing OS, browsers etc.



Not sure how true and accurate this data are, but I think this is a very good insights for me to choose the offers.

From the best performing countries, I saw two interesting offers I'm interested in, which constantly perform the best for the past few weeks:

AU 16302 Sweeps 15,000 cash


and

GE Sweep 13734 $250 Voucher



I run the test campaign to both the offers, and below are the results:

GE Sweep 13734 $250 Voucher


3G campaign


Wifi Campaign


- I run two campaigns for Wifi and 3G, spent $30 budget each.
- I download some landers from Adplexity and chosen 3 design to test
- I've a hard time edit the landers as it's in German language complicated.
- After finished the $30 budgets, both the Wifi and 3G have 3 conversions each.
- No optimization works have been done yet.



AU 16302 Sweeps 15,000 cash



- I run two campaign for Wifi and 3G, both at $10 budget each.
- It finishes the campaign budget within few hours.
- I've One Conversion for Wifi Campaign only.
- However, my domain get banned by Google on the same day so I cannot continue test the offers. Not sure it's because of this campaign of not..


Now I've replaced a new domain, and want to continue the test again.

Can anyone give me some advice, base on the performance above, shall I focus on which campaign? Or I should do more test to collect data?

I personally interested to continue the Germany Cash Voucher campaign as base on the record in Mobidea data this is a long green offer with decent revenue, but I'm kind of worry as a beginner with a limited budget, is it good to target this Tier 1 Geo offer? I'm been tested about 10 offers from 2-3rd Geo, but nothing looks promising well so far.

Can anyone help and give me some advice?

Thanks very much in advance.

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I seriously need to start browsing the "newbie follow-along" subforum instead of just looking through "new posts" - because lately I'm finding that I'm missing a lot of follow-along posts.

Adding this to my to-do list so I'll remember to do that from now on - serious apologies are in order. I'll do my best to make up for the extremely late arrival.

If you want to run aggressive landers, then you'll need to be prepared for regular domain bans, and have multiple domains all set up and ready to switch to at a moment's notice.

If you set things up AFTER you get a ban, it will take up to 24 hours for propagation - may be a bite too late.

Let's see what we can learn from your past campaigns, that you can apply to future campaigns!


You must have been following my outdated tutorial. When I wrote that version, PropellerAds didn't have smart CPM as an option. I recommended to start with smart CPM in the new version of the tutorial. Good thing another member pointed that out to you!

Direct-linking to carrier-billing offers is no long a viable way to make profits. But it's good to run as a first campaign because it's simple to set up.

Basically: Lebanon is a small geo, so you can't afford to cut a place of placements etc. Also, because you're not using a lander, you have one less thing you can optimize to get closer to green. These 2 factors combined, means that your offer would need to perform VERY well right from the start - at least close to break-even - so that you can turn it profitable with minor cutting, and STILL have SOME traffic left over to profit from.

So, if the ROI isn't anywhere near break-even from the start, it would be wise to stop the campaign.

Basically, regarding campaign optimization strategy, it comes down to this: Do we feel that it's possible to take a campaign from it's current state all the way to green, by cutting stuff? (Like placements and other traffic segments such as OSs and devices and browsers etc. etc.) AND with an acceptable amount of daily profits? (Even for the newest of newbies, $5-10/day would be the bare minimum - otherwise you may as well work at McD's.)

If the answer is YES, then focus on cutting until you reach profits. If the answer is NO, then either test more landers and offers (in the same or different vertical) so that you can make a larger portion of the traffic profitable, or test another geo altogether.

One major thing to check, is whether you have traffic segments that, either by itself or jointly with other segments, can give you enough daily profits. If you can't find such green segments, don't even bother to cut - because if there isn't gold buried somewhere in that pile of shit, then all the cutting will only leave you with shit.

The above applies to most campaigns, pop and other traffic types.


Switching to follow the tutorial step-by-step was wise!

There are more wallet-friendly trackers - I'm almost done writing the Voluum version. Will adapt the tutorial for use with funnelflux and binom next.

For this campaign, there was obviously not enough traffic - spending $24 over 17 days is nothing at all.

Frankly, the ROI is not bad - especially for the wifi camp! But there was simply too little traffic. I'm assuming you were running 24/7?

So we need to make a note: Next time, make sure there's enough traffic volume, or stop the camp (or not even start).

This campaign wasn't a waste though - you learned so much from it! But to make money "for real", pick a geo+network that has more traffic.


This campaign looks promising!

ZA is a big geo - even one of the major carriers can give you a lot of traffic.

And I see that one of your offer+lander combos achieved -48% ROI! I know it may be way too late to turn that campaign back on now, but next time you see -50% ROI for a lander+offer combination in a big geo, without much cutting, try to test more offers and/or landers first, and then focus on cutting until profitable.

Those landers though are quite ineffective. I know you had to make them compliant to please the aff network, but you could have used the more aggressive landers and just changed the wording. For example, the 2-step instructions should work better than the landers you've shown (e.g. Step 1: Click on "Protect My Phone" below. Step 2: Install the App on the next page).

Antivirus offers are tricky to run. I've jotted down some notes in this lesson:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post359519


Lander CTR can vary widely from lander to lander and from geo to geo, and also from vertical to vertical. Frankly I don't remember what the averages were for antivirus in ZA. This is why it's important to test multiple landers to get a better idea.

It's weird that you only managed to spend $20 over 3 days! Try zeropark - they have a lot more volume for ZA last I remember.

The aggressive/misleading landers you see on Adplexity: People are either cloaking, or running offers that allow aggressive landers, or both. But if you're seeing aggressive landers being run on a source like PropellerAds (which is comparatively strict compared to say popads/popcash/zeropark), then they're likely cloaking. (Either that, or they're high-rollers that have managed account on the traffic network, where their account manager will sometimes make exceptions and allow aggressive landers to be run on certain placements that allow them. I may or may not be talking about PropellerAds - I'm talking about traffic networks in general.)

Of course aggressive landers will perform better than compliant ones - at least according to my experience.

As for focusing on landing pages that have higher CTR - that's not a good approach. The important thing is conversion rate, not CTR. I've seen so many landers with lower CTR perform better than those that have higher CTR. Always use a statistics calculator (the one at peakconversion works well) to make lander-cutting decisions!


(To be continued below...)




Amy

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Where possible, you should include what you're wanting to target.

Otherwise, you COULD miss some of the options when you exclude.

But you can always check your stats - drill down to "carrier" and make sure you're getting mostly traffic from MTN. If so, you're good.

When testing offers and landers:

-Wait until an offer reaches 2 conversions (without excessive spend - if none of the offers converts once per every 10x payout in spend or better, test another batch of offers).

-Pause other offers, only run that offer and cut landers until you have a winner (using the method here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Banners-Part-1).

-Use the winning lander to retest the offers you paused before (just turn them back on) and also other new offers.


It's not easy trying to find landers that can convert video subscription offers.

Bad landers is actually worse than not using one. Basically adding a lander will require the visitor to click through one more thing - so if the lander isn't effective in preselling the visitor, then it can do more harm than good.

Did you spend enough on direct-linking? Looks like you only ran less than a dollar to the offer directly - not quite enough.

I like all the countries you selected so far! Especially Thailand which is, like you said, a developing country, has cheap traffic, and can convert well with the right offer.

Cutting a campaign on day 1 can be a good decision - it depends on your style. Some people prefer to wait a couple of days. I like to test lots of offers, but stop them early if they don't convert right away (unless I KNOW from an AM that the offer is really really promising).

It's not necessary to create separate campaigns for landing page vs. direct-linking - I can't think of any advantages.


You definitely should have run this campaign further - not enough money was spent. Could have switched to a new domain and keep running.

Regarding wifi vs. 3g: You can't make that type of decision based on 1 conversion.

Also: You don't need to choose between wifi and carrier! If both are profitable, run both! No need to choose! You only need to split-test landers and offers, NOT traffic segments!

Regarding flagging: It was most likely landers and the type of traffic - lander domains for pop camps are prone to getting banned by google. Accept it, and have several domains all set up and ready to switch over as soon as you get a ban.

Just curious: Why didn't you include a survey-style lander? It's one of the most popular lander formats. Are you going to Adplexity and sorting landers by "received most traffic"? If no, you should! Because some of your landers don't look like they're very popular at all.


Both looked promising - I would have suggested to run more traffic to both to collect more data.



I know you've started a new follow-along already - but hopefully the "post-mortem" I've done on the above camps can give you some insight for your future campaigns - I owe you this much for having found this thread super-late.

We'll continue our discussion in your other, current thread.




Amy

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Hi Amy, I'm so happy and glad to see your such a details reply... It's so warm! haha.

No need to appologizes Amy, I understand how difficult it is to browse through all the forum and reply one by one in details. It's very time-consuming and tiring. I'm really grateful and appreciate for your help in this.

Thanks for your comments and answering my questions. Although some of the campaigns had passed, but your replies had made me more understands the picture and have better insights for my AM knowledge.

One of the top lessons I learn from you: Don't waste the time on low traffic geo.

I've been spending about 2 months to try to optimize the campaign in smaller geo which it can't finish $5 traffic in one day after cutting few optimization. That time I was thinking that even the traffic is low, but if I can increase the conversion rates then I'll be still making money on it... Anyway, it's seems like it's not the case.

I like what you said: "Even for the newest of newbies, $5-10/day would be the bare minimum - otherwise you may as well work at McD's" Haha.. this is really true!

Anyway, since I've started a new walkalong after I switch to Binom, I'll focus my progress and questions on the new walkalong to avoid confusion.

Again, Thanks very much for your help Amy!

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