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11-15-2018 12:27 PM #1 yacoubh (AMC Alumnus)
Learn Traffic Juncky Algorithim

Hello everybody,

I have been in the industry of Dating for around 2 years now.
and i would like to share some tips when running with Traffic Juncky as your source of traffic.

i have noticed they have a special and unique Algo. above other networks so i would like to share some tips regarding their algorithim that may help you run good campaigns there and make that Green $$$$$

1-first thing you need to know is they have one of the biggest adult site (PORNHUB) which means huge volume specially for big geos , so you really need to be careful when targeting this site. by just lowering your budget.

2-always run a maximum of 5 spots for each campaigns specially when testing a new campaign/offer,

3-overall campaigns in your dashboard matters with their algorithm so don't just launch and keep so many campaigns running at the same time. i would say if you have $500-$1K in your balance don't keep over 6 campaigns running at same time or you will end up lowering your volume for your campaigns.

4-any Balance below $100 is harmful for your overall account, what the algorithm do is when you have <$100 balance will stop to send you enough traffic and will be spending your money too too slow. (NEVER LET YOUR ACCOUNT GO BELOW $100)

5-DailyBudget WITH BIDs:
there is a relation between the daily budget of a campaign with your bids.
take 2 senarios you can apply:
*you can set big daily budget and lower your bids and you will the competition with the other bidders
*you can set small daily budget and set higher bids and you will the competition with the other bidders

6-in general the higher balance you have means you win more % of traffic , not just the daily budget.

7-always aim for 3rd-5th position in the bidding chain ,Being top is always a loss(even if there is more clicks and traffic).

8-I tested having like 5 campaigns and each one for one different spot(running same geo and offer), and it does not make any difference of having control on your campaigns,,, on the opposite it will make you compete your self somehow.

9-for huge geos (>20Mil pop) i start always with KW targeting and that way you control your campaign slowly.

NOW i would give few suggestions outside the algo.
1-
small geos ----> test 5 banners max rotating
big geos ----> go up to 10 banners max rotating
2-
GO like this with any new test:
5-7 banners ----> 2 landers ----> 2 offers
run 24 hours , analyze , repeat and optimize
3-
if you want to run SHEMALE/GAY offers, use KW with straight traffic category.
4-
their stats is slow really slow, so i do just check my stats every 4 hours not regularly, and i look on daily stats next day .
5-
They have great great support and AM's that will help you with literary anything so keep in touch with your AM


HOPE i did some help to you guys,
wish you a green campaigns


11-16-2018 09:27 AM #2 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Thanks for sharing your experience yacoubh! I can definitely relate to many of the points you mentioned, especially when it comes to budgeting/balance and the possible traffic volumes


11-16-2018 07:45 PM #3 erikgyepes (Moderator)

Great share, thanks for posting your tips here @yacoubh.

I'm sure they will be very handy for people running adult, well especially on TJ :-)

Cheers!


11-27-2018 09:32 PM #4 devaff79 (Member)

Thanks for the sharing.

I would like to add one tip, which is "Do not target KW if you run straight dating offers."

Hereunder is the reason:
1. Targeting KW will effectively lower your position. For example, if you target KW mature with top bid, you will get the top position if a user click on a video clip with KW mature tag on it. The problem is that this video clip might be the 5th video clip that the user watch today, which makes your actual position = 5. This phenomenon happens on every ad network.
2. Due to the unique algo of TJ mentioned above, you need to bid a lot higher for better position if you target KW.

Combining above 2 points, you will end up with paying lower position with a lot higher CPM.

Edit: I am just a newbie with 6 month of affiliate experience, only in adult dating niche. Above tip is based on my experience, may not be completely right.


11-28-2018 11:44 AM #5 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by devaff79 View Post
Thanks for the sharing.

I would like to add one tip, which is "Do not target KW if you run straight dating offers."

Hereunder is the reason:
1. Targeting KW will effectively lower your position. For example, if you target KW mature with top bid, you will get the top position if a user click on a video clip with KW mature tag on it. The problem is that this video clip might be the 5th video clip that the user watch today, which makes your actual position = 5. This phenomenon happens on every ad network.
2. Due to the unique algo of TJ mentioned above, you need to bid a lot higher for better position if you target KW.

Combining above 2 points, you will end up with paying lower position with a lot higher CPM.

Edit: I am just a newbie with 6 month of affiliate experience, only in adult dating niche. Above tip is based on my experience, may not be completely right.
Solid tip and it's true indeed. I'm not a bit fan of KW targeting on adult traffic either ... the main reason for me is that the keywords are simply not accurate and very often, one video is tagged with multiple keywords. On top of that, surfers click from one video to the next, based on the screenshots and description ... which has often very little to do with the keyword we are targeting. And same goes for categories ... to much overlap.


11-28-2018 07:00 PM #6 r4raaj (Member)

Thanks Yacoubh for sharing your experience. I also wanted to add one of my bad experience with TJ.

Few days back, I had set the big budget in TJ and by mistake changed the bid .90 instead of .09. And I went to have lunch for just 30 minutes.

When I came back, I was shocked. My 200 USD gone. Then I paused out my campaign. I prepared my mind with heavy heart that its ok I will bear this amount. But when I refreshed again my browser after 10 minutes, 300 USD gone. This deduction keep on running till next 30 minutes I guess. And it got stop when my almost 500 USD gone. This was really very shocking experience for me. But this experience taught me two things:

a. Always change bids carefully
b. If you have paused out your campaign that doesn't mean that your campaign has stopped instantly. It keeps on running in background for few minutes. So don't bid high until you are sure.


11-28-2018 07:10 PM #7 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by rajivwalia View Post
Thanks Yacoubh for sharing your experience. I also wanted to add one of my bad experience with TJ.

Few days back, I had set the big budget in TJ and by mistake changed the bid .90 instead of .09. And I went to have lunch for just 30 minutes.

When I came back, I was shocked. My 200 USD gone. Then I paused out my campaign. I prepared my mind with heavy heart that its ok I will bear this amount. But when I refreshed again my browser after 10 minutes, 300 USD gone. This deduction keep on running till next 30 minutes I guess. And it got stop when my almost 500 USD gone. This was really very shocking experience for me. But this experience taught me two things:

a. Always change bids carefully
b. If you have paused out your campaign that doesn't mean that your campaign has stopped instantly. It keeps on running in background for few minutes. So don't bid high until you are sure.
Same thing happened to me, but with trafficfactory ... since I was just starting, it did hurt a lot ... I tried to ask for a refund but didn't get it. I made a similar mistake as you did, my bid was 80 cents instead of 8 and it was a CPC bid targeting USA ... the clicks were coming in at the speed of light until my budget was depleted

Ever since that day, I double check my bids before submitting a campaign.


11-28-2018 07:59 PM #8 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

I guess something like that happened most of us.
When I started with PPV in 2008 I once set the bid on Mediatraffic by mistake to $1 per Pop on a US campaign.
Budget was gone pretty fast.


11-29-2018 01:17 PM #9 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
I guess something like that happened most of us.
When I started with PPV in 2008 I once set the bid on Mediatraffic by mistake to $1 per Pop on a US campaign.
Budget was gone pretty fast.
$1 for a single POP? That must have been the most expensive pop traffic in history

But seriously, networks should have some protection in place for cases like these ... some do already, but it should be mandatory. Something like 2x current highest bid would give a warning.


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