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What does getting to XXX/day look like? (13)

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Getting to xxx/day is my next goal, but I'm curious to know what that may look like to those that have gotten there. How many offers did you run a week/day in order to get to xxx/day? How many LPs for those offers? Was your xxx/day across how many affiliate networks and traffic sources? I know this will vary a lot but I'm just trying to get a general sense of the amount of work involved to plan my steps to get there accordingly. Many thanks!

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New here in AM. Would also love to understand what is the amount of work and budget necessary top start generating xxx/day. Looking forward for some experienced AM feedback.

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It can be very easy OR very hard ... depends on your skills, tools, work ethics and a solid portion of luck, as that CAN play a role too.

Low XXX is easy to achieve once you find a good performing funnel ... all it can take is one solid offer at one network.

Everyone starts in a different way, but in my case it took several months to reach STABLE XXX profits ... during the process, I reached profits several times, but couldn't sustain it. My first profitable day was maybe in a month from the start, but as I said, to sustain it was another story.

During the process I tested dozens of LPs and several 100s of banners, I started with 1 offer, then tested another one, then had to change the GEO, test maybe 5 more offers and then the situation started to look more bright. Before reaching stability, I also swapped the affiliate networks ... the one I started with didn't work out for me, the next that I joined did the job. I'm still using one of them to this day.

I've summed up some of my feelings that I went through at the beginning in this article : http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ally-master-it

People report all kinds of stories though ... some very lucky to hit their first profitable campaign within a day, some never did it... it's hard to make any general statements here, it's simply to much related to what kind of person you are and where you start.

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Hello, bossbigpaws!

If we talk about POP traffic, it really depends on GEO and offers. For example you may have a big GEO like BR/IN/ID/US, and you can easy make $xxx/day of clean profit. But you need a really good offer there. And you might spend a lot of money before you find it, but may be you're lucky

If we take not so big GEOs ((it's what I recommend) for example now my best geos are: IQ/AE/GR/HU/CZ/IE/AT/CH/ES/MA/DK/FI/SG)) there are 2 ways:

1) You will find a really good offer which can give you cosmic ROI (500%+, yes it's possible). And you can easy do $4xx+/day only with this offer. It's like I did with iPhone X offer in Morocco for 2 month of passive profit. But you have to know it's just tests and a bit of luck. You need to test many different offers before you find this "gold" one.

2) You will try several GEO (3-5) and make all of them to show you $30-100 of clean profit per day. So when you have 5 working GEOs, your total profit will be $3xx+/day. Of course, some of them will not work. In this case just try another source or offer/lander. If it's still not working, just leave it and try a new GEO.

But the best way is to do (2) variant and the more you try new counties, the more chances you have to find this "gold" GEO. I mean not GEO, it's like a combination of Source+GEO+Offers+Lander.

And for now I have both types of campaigns. Some "gold" ones, and many "so-so" ones. But I have many "so-so" campaigns, so in total it can be a good profit. Even if it's 30% ROI.

So, my main thought is to try as much GEOs as you can and avoid big ones (tier3 and big asian/latam geos).

Good luck!

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Exactly right Brauny! The method to $xxx/day depends on the source, but also depends on your approach style!

Which traffic source are you leaning towards Bossbigpaws? Then we could write out some scenarios catered for it

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Hi maynzie!

I only have experience with POP traffic, specifically Propeller Ads. Some scenarios that would help get me there would be amazing!

Thank you!

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Once you find something that works scale is fairly easy. I would focus on just one offer and know it front and back. There are so many optimizations and tweaks you can do to further profitability.

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I'm with mrbraun - test a bunch of tier3/4 geos.

I want to add: Tier 3/4 geos that have lots of volume.

For example, in geos like TH, ID, SA, PH - that have lots of traffic - even ONE traffic segment (e.g. a major mobile carrier or a major OS) on a single traffic source can make you xxx/day in profits. And the great thing is that because there's lots of volume, these geos can withstand quite some cutting/blacklisting, and still have enough left over to give you 3 figures/day in profits!

Here's a sample approach:

1)Make a list of the biggest tier 3/4 geos with the most traffic volume. If you're running on Propeller, play with their traffic estimator. Alternatively, if you have a dedicated rep at Propeller, ask them for a list of traffic volumes by geo. If you don't have a rep, it would still be worth a try to ask their support very nicely for such a list.

2)Go on Adplexity to check these geos, to find out what kinds of offers are doing the best for each geo.

3)Ask all your AMs and/or browse aff network offers, to compile a list of similar offers to test for each geo.

4)Start testing!

You can try to focus on a select few geos and test any/all offers you can find in order to "crack" them. Or, you can do the "shoot first, aim later" approach, by setting up a camp for each of many geos with AM-recommended offers, run a small budget to each, pick the most promising geos, then focus on them and keep testing until you crack them.

Have fun!



Amy

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Hey bro, if you look through my old follow along you will see I tested 200+ campaigns and 190ish offers before finding my first $xxx/day campaign about 2 years ago. This may not be everyones path but you have to dive in head first and dont hold back on asking yourself "what should I do or how do I do it".

But some advice I can tell you right now.. dont stick to just Propeller, thats a big mistake. Not against the network but you need to have a broad testing base. Something like..

1. Test across 3 ad networks at all times.
2. Test across 2-3 geos at all times
3. Use 2-3 affiliate networks with lots of offers to test (preferably more if your budget allows or as time progresses)
4. Test across 1 vertical and if after a period of time no progress running that vertical across several networks and geos then switch up your vertical.
5. You have a greater chance of finding a golden campaign if you dont limit yourself too much on how/where you are testing. That being said, dont spread yourself too thin either, which is why I like to recommend a testing method grouped into 3's.

Start with low payouts offers under $1, easy starting points are Tier 2/3 geos, think countires with population of 75 million or less. MENA is great, some Southeast Asia and Latin America markets. Dont worry about hitting $xxx/day just yet, focus on learning how to get any thing profitable. After you've built one profitable campaign, you can build a 2nd, a 3rd, explore bigger geos, etc and the $xxx/day's will come.


Cheers,
Andrew

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Great points, people often make the mistake to stick with one thing, trying to make it profitable no matter what.

But that's not how it works, some things simply won't work and spending more time on them is a waste.

Sticking to one thing makes a lot of sense when total newbies start to learn affiliate marketing, it's easier to get lost in the learning process, when trying to concentrate on to many things and working with to many variables. But as soon as someone mastered the basics and got some confidence, it's time to venture out and explore the waste waters

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Hi Andrew,

Thanks so much for your valuable feedback. I read through your follow along as well as some of your other posts, and they really resonated with me. Especially this part: "Initially I was stuck trying just a handful of GEO's mostly within the sweepstakes vertical. I didn't have much luck other than one little campaign that did an inconsistent $10-15/day profit for a short period of time. I was focused on making sweepstakes work but wasn't testing broad enough or fast enough to really get anywhere." This is where my current mindset is stuck at.

I guess I've been afraid to "venture out" too far and have stuck only with sweeps on Propeller Ads. Now I know that I really need to branch out and test WAY more than what I'm currently doing and not be afraid to try other traffic sources, GEOs, offers, verticals, and networks. Otherwise, I'm never going to reach my goals. Like they say, doing the same thing over and over will only get you the same results.

So thank you for the advice. I can't wait to start testing like crazy and find some gold!

BTW, I'm also in Texas

Take care,
Wan

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Thank you, Mataloo! I guess I'm a stubborn person because this has been my mindset since the beginning. I need to learn to let things go and TEST more, instead of focusing on trying to revive dead campaigns or trying to fine tune minimally profitable campaigns.

Take care,
Wan

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It's not a bad thing to be stubborn to certain extent, because let's face it, sometimes it looks so bad that people tend to think it's not possible to make it ... and in such cases, you simply have to be a bit stubborn and continue anyways. But there are limits to this too ... beating a dead horse won't help it. It's also about facing the reality, finetuning a campaign to take it from -$5 to +$5 per day is simply not worth anyones time ... maybe in the beginning, when you need to learn how to optimize and setup things ... but as soon as the very-newbie phase it's over, it's time to realize we are doing this for profits and not as a game.

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