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Fb account Farming over? (23)

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Hi guys,

sry that I reach ot but we are working for three weeks now on a huge problem, which we kind of don't get solved.

Situation: We use around 1000 Fake FB accounts to farm our own organic traffic (no media buying...just posting links on our walls - cloaked of course).

Setup:

Windows VPS machines
Automatisation Software (Massplaner (these days sold as Jarvee))
SSL Private Proxies (Datacenter)
Cloaker

This setup used to work for ages. Sometimes we ran into security checks like pic uploads, phone number verification, ID upload: all solved with no problems.

Lately we can't even create accounts anymore. As soon as we create them we run into security check which is almost the same all the time:

ReCaptcha (solved with ease) --> phone veri (solved with ease) --> pic upload: wait 24 hours --> account disbled

We changed around a lot of things:

- switched from Massplaner to Multilogin to make sure we have perfect Fingerprinting and that the automatisation software doesnt cause issues
- switches from SSL private Proxies to Luminati residentials even with city solution to make sure, IPs are perfect, tested even there real expensive G3 proxies: same results


nothing seems to help...results are the same. Do u see what we do wrong, what we should change, where we are detected?

What bugs me most: in the past pic upload was no problem at all. We changed the pic infos, changed the pic around a bit in Photoshop, made sure its not findable in the google reverse search and were good to go. Always got our accounts free after 1-2 days. But tis is over since 8 weeks: every single account gets dissabled.

So any help with the initial setup OR with pic upload verification would help a lot.

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Try to grow an account on new mobile (new carrier not wifi) device and if the account survives the fb checks - reverse engineer the process and upgrade your botting system.Btw many people using jarvee for Instagram botting have seen a recent ban wave. Jarvee is very public bot, it's very easy to reverse engineer the requests and catch all footprints.

A post you may find useful - https://bit.ly/2PBu5aR



LeadCloak

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Not talking about Instagram....we know the issues there and the Massplaner team is working on a Fingerprint solution which should fix that issue. We don't even have problems setting up Insta accounts (just checked...made 5 new ones without problems).

We have probs with FB - especially with the pic verification...which seems to be impossible to solve these days....

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Have you tried this? - "Try to grow an account on new mobile (new carrier not wifi) device and if the account survives the fb checks - reverse engineer the process and upgrade your botting system" and for pic verification - try fiverr (something like https://bit.ly/2Rx2K75), a photo won't cost more than 5$ if thats works for you. You should try it.



LeadCloak

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When uploading the photo's, do you remove the exif data? I am not sure how solid multilogin is nowadays, I think sofarm still runs via them. Honestly it looks like some fingerprinting stuff is not covered enough. But again, I don't know how sealed their product is.

Lately we face more and more cellphone/photo verifications, where still 90% of our accounts survive all the checks.

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I can tell you 2 things:

1) A lot of Luminati residentials IP's are better? Many of their IP's are flagged as proxy (there are multiple services that sell lists of proxy IP's),
sometimes small underground proxies could be better (3g and residential, not data center), the problem is that as you probably know is the cost.

2) Checking if the picture doesn't show up on google reverse search is good, however, Facebook has his own system to classify pictures, so you don't have any
guarantee from it.

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Well that moves us a step further. But especially what leadcloak suggested has been tried exactly the way - doesnt really work. We don't just remove the Exif data - we change it so it looks natural (none exif data could be suspicious): same results. Thats why we try to figure up a way to pass this picture check hard....it almost looks like it doesn't matter which picture you took - they check technical something during upload process - cause we even tried with pictures we shoot from our cellphones in a mall from strangers: didn't pass.....

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Ok we survive all checks with ease except pic upload. For aged and trusted accounts pic upload works, for new ones never. Did u test this? And is there a certain way u handle the pics to get it approved?

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You created a FB account on new mobile phone with new sim card and got pic verification block?



LeadCloak

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nope...but as soon as we move the account into an automatisation system or any other invironment this will happen. So the approach is good but even if we copy the fingerprint and take an IP from the same geolocation we don't keep the account. So it won'z help solve things unfortunatly.

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I am pretty sure your problem is with the image verification, and not MP or proxy. How do I know? I run into the same problem :-) Someone already mentioned that checking the image in google images is not a 100% solution. After so many attempts I figured out that facebook has some better tools for finding matching pictures then google (the picture requires more modifications to not be detected as duplicate). They must be using the same method to spot ads with creatives used previously on blackhat ads. If I modify the picture enough it passes this verification on a new account every single time

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i have same problem and we did like everything with no luck same things happening...
account creation => photo lock => photo send wait 3-6h => account disabled
im using vmware windows with luminati tested datacenter proxy as well with same result all started 6-8 week ago !
there are some changes in billing system too and there are some new error when making payment for ads which show a fake card declined error and close the account right away !
i will update with new test we make so hopefully we can solve this.

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Just wanted to thank you all....right now I sometimes really lag motivation and come to the office with: yeah another day of testing, hassling and headache....yippieh....than I read here, get new hints, new info and think: hey we are many. And honest. And we will solve this! Just for this - this forum is brilliant.
BTW carramba: would u share how u change the pics? So we maybe can adopt?

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Yeah, we tested on new and older ones. Some get the reCaptcha like you told before over and over, but photo id still has a succes rate of 90%. No special procedure...

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Ok....so we obviously do mistakes in pic upload and/or preperation? Anyone willing to share his procedere?

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hey guys, lets create a telegram mastermind for this? shoot me your telegram id via pn and i'll add you.

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any progress here, we have similair issues

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Still good for us here! By the way, anybody knows who owns https://www.blket.com. looks very interesting!

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You should open a thread in Mastermind forum for better exposure and right eyes...



LeadCloak

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For us most issues are solved. Had to change the structure quite around and sometimes have small bumps on the way - but major issues have work arounds by now....

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Hi, it's xmedia

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Thanks a lot, going to contact them!

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Putting an overlay image on the top (rainbow or something vastly multicoloured) and turning opacity to like 8-15% seem to work fine

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