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10-31-2018 08:18 AM
#1
jabong82 (Member)
If your goal was to make $500/day, how would you do it?
Something I've been thinking about lately in Adult.
Assuming your goal was to only make $500 (not more), what would be the easiest route to get there?
Would you run maybe 1 or 2 campaigns in large geos?
Would you run maybe 10-15 smaller campaigns in tier 2 or tier 3 geos?
Maybe a combination of both?
I feel like how and what you run depends greatly on your monetary targets. Like maybe if you only wanted to make $500/day you could just run in these less competitive geos.
Thoughts?
10-31-2018 08:24 AM
#2
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
$500 per day what?
Revenue?
Profit?
Also how big is your budget?
That can also tell you alot about what and how to do best.
Hard would be to run $50 per day with 1000% ROI.
Easy would be to run 1million dollars per day with extremely low ROI to reach $500 per day.
10-31-2018 08:29 AM
#3
jabong82 (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
$500 per day what?
Revenue?
Profit?
Also how big is your budget?
That can also tell you alot about what and how to do best.
Hard would be to run $50 per day with 1000% ROI.
Easy would be to run 1million dollars per day with extremely low ROI to reach $500 per day.
Sorry $500/day profit.
Budget say up to $3k/day.
10-31-2018 08:32 AM
#4
blueflag (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Easy would be to run 1million dollars per day with extremely low ROI to reach $500 per day.
Hahaha I really calculated the annual yield on that. Its over 18% not even that bad :-P
10-31-2018 08:58 AM
#5
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
jabong82
Sorry $500/day profit.
Budget say up to $3k/day.
There I probably would go for lower ROI and instead try to reach the profit by higher volume.
That has the advantage that you can run more competitive bids so that you don't need to be cheap on your bids because you need to reach the highest ROI possible.
Often its easier to reach the desired profit by doing more volume on lower ROI so that you can reach your goal basically by just sending more traffic and not by trying to get the highest ROI possible because of limited budget.
On the other hand running more than campaigns in less competitive Geos on higher ROI can also work out well but you have to consider that you have more work because you have to maintain more campaigns.
Yes I know, probably not the best answer but it's as usual, there is no universal approach.

Originally Posted by
blueflag
Hahaha I really calculated the annual yield on that. Its over 18% not even that bad :-P
Setzen, 6!
You calculated with 1million adspend per year and $500 profit per day.
But you would need to calculate with 1million adspend per day = 365million adspend per year.
And there your ROI goes down a little bit.
10-31-2018 09:57 AM
#6
leadcloak (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
you would need to calculate with 1million adspend per day = 365million adspend per year.
And there your ROI goes down a little bit.
Little bit???
To make 500$/day on $1Million ad spend, I'd just need 0.05% ROI (I think, that's easily achievable on POPs) . Affiliate marketing is really just number's game.
LeadCloak
10-31-2018 11:11 AM
#7
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by
leadcloak
Little bit???
To make 500$/day on $1Million ad spend, I'd just need 0.05% ROI (I think, that's easily achievable on POPs) . Affiliate marketing is really just number's game.
LeadCloak
And where would you buy POPs worth 1 million PER DAY?

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Back to the OP question : I would try to run several campaigns in multiple GEOs ... they don't have to be that small either since you have the budget for it. Spreading out across multiple GEOs and campaigns, usually means more stability too ...when you run very large campaigns, everyone will notice and you will be copied all the time so that's a lot of fights in terms of bidding.
10-31-2018 12:29 PM
#8
leadcloak (Member)
And where would you buy POPs worth 1 million PER DAY?
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It was meant to be theoretical and with 1 million i'd recommend to go for a real product company and invest time and knowledge for a better long-term payout. Btw it's pretty hard to save your banners and landers from spying and saturation.
Anyway, OP - i'd also run multiple offers in multiple GEO to make 500/day like matuloo said.
LeadCloak
10-31-2018 12:38 PM
#9
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by
leadcloak
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[COLOR=#232323]It was meant to be theoretical and with 1 million i'd recommend to go for a real product company and invest time and knowledge for a better long-term payout.
I know, just wanted to point it out anyways because I already had to explain this to numerous people ... since it's quite easy to reach very low ROI numbers with some optimizations, everyone thinks all it takes is to buy a ton of traffic and that's it

The problem is, where to get such huge amounts of traffic and still remain profitable, that's the key and it's not that easy.
10-31-2018 01:05 PM
#10
leadcloak (Member)

Originally Posted by
matuloo
I know, just wanted to point it out anyways because I already had to explain this to numerous people ... since it's quite easy to reach very low ROI numbers with some optimizations, everyone thinks all it takes is to buy a ton of traffic and that's it

The problem is, where to get such huge amounts of traffic and still remain profitable, that's the key and it's not that easy.
Yeah. Actually traffic is not a big problem at all, but once start buying more and more traffic and running many offers, we won't be able to handle competition, bids will go high and ROI near to zero. Campaign will be saturated in no time or particular audience will die up.
That's why google and facebook sell traffic and doesn't monitise directly.
Btw you've pressed that "Post Quick Reply" button twice.
LeadCloak
10-31-2018 01:14 PM
#11
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Originally Posted by
leadcloak
Btw you've pressed that "Post Quick Reply" button twice.LeadCloak
Oh yes, browser putting up a show ... deleted
10-31-2018 01:17 PM
#12
yacoubh (AMC Alumnus)
You are mentioning Adult as a source or vertical here to hit that $500/day profit.
i do work on Dating and Adult sources for 2 years now, and form my experience this vertical is the Ever green vertical, which means you can rely on to keep pushing new campaigns and stable one.
for your goal it's not that hard trust me, you just need to keep pushing new offers daily, as the offers plays the most part of the game in this field specifically.
$500/day profit need the following maybe (at least from what i have)
-2 big campaigns that keep running for a while and keep refreshing the creatives and offers.
these two big one's means big GEOS, because here you are focusing on the $$$ not ROI or EPC .....etc
you need big geos , you need a room to scale dude. these may be (UK,CA,AU or US)
-the other thing you need is 5-7 on side campaigns with low-moderate competition that can make around $100 profit total. and keep changing these because you can't scale them as much as you would like. and don't waste much time on those because they won't last long and they will be very hard to scale.
good luck 
10-31-2018 02:55 PM
#13
pierren (Member)
I would say there are no answers to the question. Affiliate marketing represents a business like any other, whether you grow up or you die.
What implies in fact : take everything you can or let others take it 
Concretely, as said above campaigns on several GEO with a good flow of offers can compencate increases and decreases campaigns usually impacted by your conccurents.
10-31-2018 11:30 PM
#14
forgamon (Member)
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