I want to do it a bit diff than most newbies, is this going to work? (12)
I want to do it a bit diff than most newbies, is this going to work?
Hi everyone, I did go through some initial portion of the 40-day beginners tutorials and since I'm not a total newbie, I want to go a bit different than what is mentioned there. I want to ask experienced members here, if this is going to work?
1) Can I use propellerads.com to target Tier1 Geo for a Mid-value product(where I had made few sales from organic traffic in the past couple years back)?
2) Is it a must to start with low end offers and Tier2-3 Geos when I have made a few sales in mid-value products in the past from Tier1 Geos?... but left affilliate marketing for 2-3 years to focus on my Client Seo business(which is my bread n butter for 14+ years now) since I wasn't making anything significant from Aff's so decided to focus all my time on my main business.
3) Somewhere I saw it is mentioned that a newbie needs around 2K budget just to learn and test campaigns and paid traffic. I can't allocate so much budget just to test, can I get away with a much lower budget since I'm not a total newbie(but very new to the concept of paid ads except FB ads and Adwords)?
4) Is there anyone out here who hardly uses paid traffic and has made a fortune out of just Organic Traffic+Affilliate offers? Would be great to hear back from you. I'm very confident about getting the Ranking/Organic Traffic part but very low confidence in "Finding" the right genuine niche/offer that will convert and pay.
Thanks in Advance!
Deepak
1) Yes, if you have budget of 10k
2) No, its not necessary, you can go to tier1 immediately, but you need a much higher budget
3) 2k is for tier2/3, since you insist on going to tier1, you need much more. IF you cant allocate much more. eg not even 2k , then I would suggest you just stay out of it.
You need money to test..
4) Lots of people made a lot of money like that, but I haven't heard of anyone making it in the past 3 years (the most I've heard of is 10-20k / month but using greyhat.. not white).
Guys are still making money from that, but they have very old authority sites and the sales come thru email drips.. etc; they are the ones still doing big volume, others
are capped at 4 digits or so - My information on 4) is not verified, I just presume things.
In short:
You plan of doing tier1 with higher payout and lower budget.. should not work.
There is a small chance you get really lucky or you come up with something no one ever thought of,
but frankly the chance of that is really really slim.
Why do you want to do affiliate anyway ?
If you have seo clients, it would make much more sense you expand your portfolio of services you can sell to them,
eg offering fb / google leads.. and going in that direction - not the classic affiliate route promoting offers on the market.
Hey Deepak, johner911's advice is more than enough to get started in affiliate marketing.
LeadCloak
johner911 post answers your questions pretty good but I would like to point out one more thing.
These are two complete different traffic types with completely different user behavior.
When you say product and not offer does that mean that it's a physical product?
Let me chime in too ...
Paid traffic is very different from SE ... seo traffic is coming through keywords, so people who are looking for something already ... if what you are offering is what they are looking for, it's an easy sell. Paid traffic is different, those people are browsing sites/apps and you need to disrupt them with your ads and get them into your funnel ... that's why proper targeting works, it allows you to cherrry pick those prospects that are most likely to buy.
To put it into perspective ...if you have a product that worked on organic se traffic, it will convert on paid traffic too, given that you can target the same audience as your past buyers came from. Using POP traffic source such as propeller is probably not the best idea, since it lacks the targeting options you need. POP traffic works the best on very broad appeal offers ... such as iphone sweeps, shopping vouchers etc ... so things that pretty much everyone wants. I'm not sure what your product is, but if it's something niched, it most likely wont sell good enough on propeller.
I was running review sites, so very motivated SE clicks and converted like a charm.Having to start in the tier2-3 GEOs is an advice to those who are either new to AM or have low budgets, trying to do something in the most competitive GEOs requires larger budgets ... as the others above already mentioned.
Originally Posted by deep25
I just took one of my niche market place(ebay,amazon,etc) items and re-opened my
Yeah i know...sounds like one of those stupid
But yeah, my vote is go get the pure traffic Facebook, Google, etc...u get great targeting. U get real people. Bots will eat through your budget on pop traffic and native.
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Originally Posted by goodfella
Originally Posted by matuloo
LeadCloak
Thanks a Lot Johner, Matej and others..excellent advise here...this is exactly what I was looking for and this will surely save me a LOT of time and effort which could have gone wasted in making an half-hearted effort with an insufficient budget!
My situation is such that though I'm doing resonably well in my Client Seo business but don't have Big Testing budget right now for Affilliate marketing-Paid ads due to personal reasons(I'm Buying a house and that too without bank finance )
So now I'm clear this is not the right time for me to start with the Paid Ads-Affiliate thing and rather focus on my present business and try creating a few sites on the side (and rank them organically) for Affilliate offers and see how they go...I would be happy with a small side income from that if they work out and will only get back to this Paid Ads-Affilliates once I'm done with my personal expenses and everything is settled that end.
Makes sense?
My Questions:
Is there any way to "Find" good offers that convert other than using paid ads?
Or choosing a good Aff network is half the job done?
Thanks a Lot everyone!
You can ask your AM.
Checkout top lists and look for any correlations.
Open spy tools and see what others are running.
Do manual spying and see what pops up.
Combine these and you can get some initial ideas.
Though proper testing will be still required.
Originally Posted by leadcloak
Originally Posted by deep25
My situation is such that though I'm doing resonably well in my Client Seo business but don't have Big Testing budget right now for Affilliate marketing-Paid ads due to personal reasons(I'm Buying a house and that too without bank finance
)So now I'm clear this is not the right time for me to start with the Paid Ads-Affiliate thing and rather focus on my present business and try creating a few sites on the side (and rank them organically) for Affilliate offers and see how they go...I would be happy with a small side income from that if they work out and will only get back to this Paid Ads-Affilliates once I'm done with my personal expenses and everything is settled that end.
Makes sense?
My Questions:
Is there any way to "Find" good offers that convert other than using paid ads?
Or choosing a good Aff network is half the job done?
Thanks a Lot everyone!
)It's probably a wise decision to focus on SEO due to the budget limitations... and I'm sure you can still utilize the AM knowledge to boost your revenues.
When choosing what to promote, I would think about what niches you can build traffic in. If you look at clickbank for example, there are info product for so many niches, you just need to pick a good one. SO you could easily build a network of sites around a niche and monetize it with clickbank offers. On top of that, you can squeeze some extra $$$ by promoting broad appeal offers like sweeps, some international apps ... You can also build an email sequence, and collect emails for it by using an exit/entry pop ...
The first and hard step is to chose the niche ... anything you like more than the rest, anything you're good at, anything you already have a base built for? Try to answer these questions.
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