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Push Notifications Pioneers, tell us what you learned! (23)

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I see new ad formats such as the push notifications popping up in the wild, and networks offer it now...

Since I'm using propellerAds a lot I asked their support how I can A/B test push notifications campaigns, but they literally said that

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If you create two campaigns for one offer with the same targeting options but change just creative only one of your campaigns will receive traffic while the other one will be inactive almost
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So I'm like, damn no way to A/B test ? and I got the confirmation with the support agent saying:

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I guess you can not test your creatives in such way.

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So I'm making this thread to ask anyone that had success with Push Notifications to open up some strategies and maybe tell us what in their experiences worked well in terms of creatives, verticals, copy, etc etc

Thanks!!

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Did you try to set it up the way you described? So basically cloned campaigns with just different ads?

Cause that's the way I'm doing it now with one push network and it works just fine. I can't really think of any other way, since they don't allow multiple ads per campaign.

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Nobody allows multiple ads per campaign. You have to clone to test but its not completely A/B testing of course.

matuloo which network would you suggest?

Guys, do you have such type of problem like me, as the results are gradually falling? So its getting worst every single day?

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Don't feel comfortable enough yet to suggest anything, but I'm working on something in the space and will post it soon on my blog

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ah damn, so it's still some kind of new territory? Let's make history!!!! ahah

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Not new at all, Push Ads are out there for many years already.
It´s just that it gets more traction now.

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Hi everyone yes it is confirmed there is no way to do split testing on push notification campaigns. Since multiple ads per campaign not allowed. I tried propeller ads push notifications ads. I tried a few verticals I started with tier1 sweepstakes and found nothing converted my however traffic is cheap but need to test a lot of campaigns to test and need to know what is working. My friend also check with sweepstakes but it is not working. I tried few Crypto offers they convert but these are CPL but after some conversions they stopped converting and yesterday my campaign is also pulled by advertiser since they were CPL may be bad quality or whatever an issue. I took these offers from MaxBounty. I found my friends also got conversions on Crypto offer they even got deposit leads like $200-$300 per lead with this traffic like 500% to 1000%. So I gave it a try that was worth I did not get any luck with those big deposit conversions but converted few CPL Crypto offer that is also pulled. I think there is something I still need to know more about push notifications campaigns. I invested like $200 but get back like $55 only since I didn't get any deposit leads that I mainly focus.

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Push is a very generic type of traffic, since there is basically no targeting when it comes to interests or niches ... so it's like POPs in a way. It all comes down to finding the right LP and offer, combined with a good AD ... there is nothing else you can optimize with this traffic pretty much. $55 to $200 is still quite solid result compared to what people usually get with POPs initially, so you're not doing that bad ... you just need to improve the funnel.

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Thank you Matuoo I think so what you exactly told me. Yes I need to work on my funnel. LPs.

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It's blessing or course at same time with Push.
Good is that you don't need to optimize many things.
Bad is that you can't optimize many things.

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And Matuloo sir I want to launch some popunder campaigns now so can you please tell me some good verticals that working now a days and I am new in pop game so can suggest me from which geos I should start and from which affiliate network I should take the offers. I will really appreciate it. its a pleasure to join this amazing community.

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Hi guys, I had a question for those that ran or currently running Push because of the experience I encountered while
testing this traffic source on Propeller.

More details are here. Any feedback would be appreciated.
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...806#post352806

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With Push, it's difficult to track costs in Voluum.

Unlike Pops, a visitor to the LP is acutally a click on a Push ad. So I have to measure cost per click on push ad but I pay the ad network a cost per impression. As CTR varies greatly by publisher / site, I have to optimize a push campaign by looking at two screens at the same time: Voluum for performance and Traffic Source for costs.

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Sure, it's same with other ad formats where you run on CPM when the traffic source has no cost token.
I usually prefer to start the tests on CPC and when I see good signals I switch to CPM.
But of course the trafficsource has to support CPC to do so.

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Yup, running push on CPM is way more complicated ... but several networks offer CPC, so not that big of a problem.

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Sweeps are your best bet for starting with POPs, easy flow, low payout, large GEO coverage ... that's exactly what you need. And great LPs on top of that, you won't be able to profit without them most likely. As for the GEO, usually it's better to avoid the most competitive TIER1 geos, such as US, UK ... but eastern europe, asia ... these should be ok to start with. Check with your AMs to see what GEOs they have multiple offers for, as you'll have to test several ones to find something solid.

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I own push notification company, it works only on android, no iOS, they wont allowed it.
Most of the traffic is adults and dating , so what works best is dating adults chat cam and sweepsteak.
We sell cpc to taboola outbrain revcontent etc..
You can test creatives if you make a push to the same users at the same time, like split the campaign to 2 camps,we can do it.
If you need more info - hook me up.

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Hey man!

If you want, on the Admaven self service you can open as much campaigns as you want for A/B testing. you can't learn anything if you don't work like this. You can even open a few creatives on the same campaign and see how it goes. Our push traffic is 100% direc, we don't buy from 3rd party push traffic sources, only our own. So if you want to get things going, PM me man
Cheers

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Hola,

You will find my last 30 days results with push traffic on my crypto make money offer here (source: propellerads).

As you can see the traffic is very cheap, conversion = registration (CPL). In terms of quality I didn't find the right path yet.

Out of this 180 leads i've got:
10 attempted to deposit (CPA)
9 failed (declined) due to "no money reasons" with credit cards, or whatever their swiping / clearing issues are.
1 approved.

There is a lot more to do with that. So far i tweaked only placements and geos (EU and GCC mainly).
Next phase will be tweak creatives (of the push) and landing pages on my target markets (those who converted better in terms of registrations).

Any thoughts will be welcomed, and ill try to keep you posted on my second phase.

Ch33rz

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@ri0sss
What kind of landers did you use?
For example questionnaires can be good for a higher Lead CR but advertorials usually give you a better Lead to Sale ratio.

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@twinaxe,
I used questionnaire as pre-lander and the next step was an aggressive landing with "make money" video.
I did split one with pre lander the other without - the results almost the same.

Didn't tried advertorials as pre-lander yet, Are you talking about those "fake news" landers ? that very common in native ? ("a single mom changed her life bla bla")

ri0s

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Questionnaires and Crypto can lead to problems.
Not only in terms of quality but I got several domains flagged pretty fast because of that.
And yes, with advertorials I mean exactly these fake news landers.
They don't have such high CTR but mostly generate better quality leads.

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Will try that thanks twinaxe

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