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Deceptive Attack - Wait Don't Drop Your Current Domain Yet! (10)

08-28-2018 04:15 PM #1 goodfella (Member)
Deceptive Attack - Wait Don't Drop Your Current Domain Yet!

Before you drop your current domain for a new one do this:

1. Sign up for google search console
2. Follow the directions and upload their html file to your server for verification
3. After verification click on the "security issues" tab
4. The "security issues" will show your site as being deceptive - click on "show details"

From their they are calling out all of your landers that's getting flagged. Remove the lander (hopefully it's not your biggest earner) from your server.

Check the box "I have fixed these issues" and click "Request A Review". Explain the change you made and submit. They should get back to you in a day or so for approval or disapproval. (If they never respond, just move on)

Signing up for domain names again, again, and again is a headache. I agree with adaptability in this industry BUT, it's best to know what pages is getting your entire site blocked from the start so if you do decide to start a new domain you will know what pages are the culprit.

Just so happen the page that caused my "Deceptive Attack" was a under performing lander (lucky me!). But for my fellow affiliates that have good earning landers go down I highly suggest using this method so you see what pages are in question. That way you can keep your other landers up that's earning money in the mean time while you clean up or move the problematic lander to another server if you feel like moving further with it.

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EDIT

Ok, I got approved in less than 24 hours. Email proof is below and all of my landers are showing in google chrome with no problem. :-)


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08-28-2018 06:43 PM #2 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

I just switch the domains.
Few minutes to change the domain VS. waiting for Google for approval or disapproval.

08-28-2018 08:16 PM #3 eurosen (AMC Alumnus)

What I used to do when I ran AV and had a lot of domains getting banned...

I sat down for a couple of hours and registered a lot of cheap extensions and set them up in my Amazon S3, Route 53 and Cloudfront account.

So whenever I got a notification that a domain was banned (Via Uptimerobot) I could just pause my camps, switch the files over and be back up and running in a matter of minutes.

Having a few backup domains is always a good idea no matter what type of camps you run.

08-28-2018 08:17 PM #4 eurosen (AMC Alumnus)

By the way... I saw that Binom has an option to monitor domains for a Google ban, has anyone used it? Any good?

08-28-2018 08:24 PM #5 thecourage (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by eurosen View Post
By the way... I saw that Binom has an option to monitor domains for a Google ban, has anyone used it? Any good?
Yes, it does work good. Keep in mind that they check the root domain f.e domain.com , if only part of the domain gets flagged f.e domain.com/se/sweeps , it won't show on Binom. I've already contacted their support team, and they will fix that.

08-29-2018 04:51 PM #6 goodfella (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
I just switch the domains.
Few minutes to change the domain VS. waiting for Google for approval or disapproval.
Ok, I got approved in less than 24 hours. I'm not going to keep switching domains and paying for extra software on top of my normal software I use to do my work. On top of that still dropping the "infected" lander on my server every time without knowing it's infected constantly get flagged every 24 to 48 hours. Yeah you can argue I missed 12+ hours of data and commissions but now I have one less problem to worry about long term. Email proof is below.

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08-29-2018 05:15 PM #7 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by goodfella View Post
Ok, I got approved in less than 24 hours. I'm not going to keep switching domains and paying for extra software on top of my normal software I use to do my work. On top of that still dropping the "infected" lander on my server every time without knowing it's infected constantly get flagged every 24 to 48 hours. Yeah you can argue I missed 12+ hours of data and commissions but now I have one less problem to worry about long term. Email proof is below.
Sure, in the end everyone has it´s own way to deal with that stuff.
I just register many cheap domains at once, setup CDN, SSL and DNS for all of them at once so that they are ready when I need them.
I also don´t use or pay for any additional software to do it.
Often , also depending on the traffic type, you can´t control it anyway and you get flagged sooner or later.
I had cheap domains running for more than a year on Pops without being flagged, others were flagged left and right after only few hours.
But I also don´t run all my landers on only one domain, I mostly pool the landers per vertical and run them together on a domain.
With a clever management only few campaigns are affected and not all.

And you are right, when you don´t know what triggered the flag it can help to re-verify them and try to get them approved.
But in my opinion this is more important when you work with new landers, when you run your proven ones you know what gets flagged and what not.
And some verticals are more sensible to being flagged, some are less.
Experience helps alot to gauge it although you can never be sure if it hits you or not.
And from the example above, maybe it took less than 24 hours to be re-approved but it can also take longer and in the end you don´t even get a guarantee that your domain gets approved again.
20 hours traffic loss can be ok when running low volume but when I run high volume and have successful stuff running I prefer to not loose that traffic.
That´s why I just change domain in few minutes so that I can continue running traffic as soon as possible.
And $.80 for a new domain is way less than what I would loose when I stop running traffic for 12 or 20 hours.

But as I said, everyone has it´s own way to run his stuff and it´s always good to see different opinions.

08-31-2018 07:32 PM #8 platinum (Veteran Member)

Interesting workaround, however I believe it will take some time for the flagging to be removed. Again this will still need a backup domain to quickly resume traffic on a promising campaign.

09-16-2018 05:12 AM #9 grofit (AMC Alumnus)

Hi Eurosen,
I'm using uptime robot, but it is not telling me when a domain is banned.

Is there a specific way you need to setup the domain for monitoring?

09-16-2018 05:22 AM #10 grofit (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
Sure, in the end everyone has it´s own way to deal with that stuff.
I just register many cheap domains at once, setup CDN, SSL and DNS for all of them at once so that they are ready when I need them.
I also don´t use or pay for any additional software to do it.
Often , also depending on the traffic type, you can´t control it anyway and you get flagged sooner or later.
I had cheap domains running for more than a year on Pops without being flagged, others were flagged left and right after only few hours.
But I also don´t run all my landers on only one domain, I mostly pool the landers per vertical and run them together on a domain.
With a clever management only few campaigns are affected and not all.

And you are right, when you don´t know what triggered the flag it can help to re-verify them and try to get them approved.
But in my opinion this is more important when you work with new landers, when you run your proven ones you know what gets flagged and what not.
And some verticals are more sensible to being flagged, some are less.
Experience helps alot to gauge it although you can never be sure if it hits you or not.
And from the example above, maybe it took less than 24 hours to be re-approved but it can also take longer and in the end you don´t even get a guarantee that your domain gets approved again.
20 hours traffic loss can be ok when running low volume but when I run high volume and have successful stuff running I prefer to not loose that traffic.
That´s why I just change domain in few minutes so that I can continue running traffic as soon as possible.
And $.80 for a new domain is way less than what I would loose when I stop running traffic for 12 or 20 hours.

But as I said, everyone has it´s own way to run his stuff and it´s always good to see different opinions.
Hi TwinAxe,
I'm running Sweeps offers on Pop Traffic (mostly Mobile but some Desktop) and I'm currently doing both.

I'm moving to new domains as soon as I get flagged BUT I'm also working on one flagged domain to see if I can 'clean' up the lander enough that google will stop flagging it.
This is a lander I've had success on in other geos, so trying to work out who to 'clean' it up while keeping it profitable.

I was wondering if you've found:
i). If there are some GEOs which are more sensitive to being flagged.
For example I've run the same Lander in Indonesia for 8 months (off and on) and been flagged once.
I ran it in Switzerland and got flagged and a warning within 2 days!

ii). Do you know if the flagging process is all done by algorithms or is there a human element involved?
For example, do they have manual reviewers or can people complain?
If there is a human element involved, then different geos might accept different levels of edgy in a lander (e.g. what a mobile user in thailand might find acceptable might be different to someone in the usa).

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