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Looking for a new direction (4)

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Hello everyone! I have been doing AM / Media buying for a year and a half year now with a lot of upswings and downswings.


I started with pop traffic and found (a) some promising campaigns and made low xxx/day profits from them. After those camps died, I decided to move on to FB and almost immediately I got a green lead gen camp running (Thanks to Stickupkid’s guides). Lucky me. I knew that those lead gen sweepstakes would be a greyish hat thing, and pretty much after hitting low xxx€/day profits I got my account disabled. Now I feel like being back to square one. (Yes, I’ve read the thread about this subject )

My FB journey started with a rocketing start. I was just about to start optimizing / and testing landers when I already was doing 100-200% ROI without any lander (compliant landers) testing or ad spit testing. At the moment it feels like the only bottle neck for me is the account ban (But I think this is the biggest problem for all of you guys), not really the campaign optimizations/angles etc. If anyone could help me with accounts or share knowledge about the subject, I would appreciate a lot (I had profitable camps going on and I could help with angles/offers)

After the FB ban, I had a little break from AM. Now I tested how GDN works with the same offers/landers and the first day result showed me -40% ROI. I tested only one banner to see how to create camps etc. The initial results seems to be quite decent, but I am worried if these offers are prohibited on GDN.


My thoughts and questions

1. I’ve found profitable camps on FB without any optimizations or major testings (and non-aggressive landers, ads etc), but got my personal account disabled (which I created 3 months ago for advertising purposes). Should I continue with this path? I know that the discussion about account farming isn’t allowed on STM, but I’d like to know if it would be even worth trying to get around the account problem since I have a feeling (and ran already profitable camps) that if I had a working account, I could immediately continue doing xxx/day profits. In my case, is it worth digging deep into the account thing, and is it really so difficult as people say? (If the vertical is lead gen, no cloaking, no aggressive stuff)

2. Is it allowed to run lead gen (General email sweeps e.g travel vouchers) on GDN? I tried to read ad policy and IMO it isn’t clearly stated how it is. I tried to launch new ads but they got disapproved due to misleading content. Imo the banners are compliant without any misleading info, but the lander is a simple survey without any TOS, Privacy etc. I’d like to stay as WH as possible and I really like Google / FB because of their targeting options and the feeling that I really have more options to do as a marketer.


3. I’ve ran mostly sweepstakes (Leadgen/SOI) offers so far, so I have mostly experience on running them. I’d like to stick with the vertical, but I feel uncertainty about what should be the traffic source since I got banned on FB and Google seems to be as strict when it comes to these lead gen offers. Any recommendations?

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All advices, thought and PMs are much appreciated. If you have any paid, free or mastermind solution regarding the account thing, don’t hesitate contacting me.

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Go for it. Difficult is relative, and depends on who you ask, but I've talked to quite a few people navigating account FB bans and making it work - why can't you be one of them? Got to take action, network more, and I'm sure things will fall into place.

Focus on mastering a traffic source, in this case Facebook and accounts. Offers come and go.

Paid mastermind? Don't do that. Plenty of facebook groups on running fb ads to connect with - "ad buyers" being the biggest.

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Definitely worth pursuing Facebook man, its not going anywhere anytime soon and if you were able to find pockets of profit like you've said without much work you're onto something. Look the account game is relative exactly like thedudeabides said above,

- If you're super aggressive in your approach but making really good roi's consistently your focus shifts away from campaign optimisation and more into ability of accessing many accounts.

- If you're running close to policy and it was your first time running an account (not sure how long this account lasted for as you said it was made 3 months ago but how long until it was banned) you will more then likely be able to get much more out of accounts and they're not that hard to find there are so many sellers out there just need to find an approach that works.

Sweeps tends to dance on a thin-line with Facebook, if you're clean in your approach I'm sure you can build consistency there. @stickupkid has proven in many threads the ability of getting them live on FB without too much hassle.

No cloaking is a big thing here that should see more spend in your accounts, but once again its such a large pool of accounts that you can't really get a great idea of how well accounts will act, you may see some spend big $$'s and some go down super early... its the game

--- I think you should stick with Facebook as your main source, you're already profitable without much optimisation playing in a niche that is not too hard at all to get approved/spending there and account sourcing is not a massive issue - the massive issue people complain about is getting enough spend on their aggressive ads to become profitable after account/overhead costs

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Thanks for replies guys.

These replies gave me a lot of confidence to make things work. I guess I won't make similar profits with new accounts, but I've learned a lot about FB camps even during a small amount of time.

I really think that networking is the key. It also has been a thing that I've overlooked during my AM journey.

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