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Adwords Parallel Tracking (Fully implemented by October 30) (10)

07-24-2018 04:20 PM #1 andzonda (Member)
Adwords Parallel Tracking (Fully implemented by October 30)

If anyone here who runs affiliate offers using adwords would know that this have come to a certain concerns.

Anyone mind explaining this point?

Cookie Context

With sequential tracking, browser cookies are set in the first-party context for the tracker's domain. With Beacon functionality, the cookies are written to the main browser jar in a third-party context. If your service depends on cookies being written in first-party context, make any needed changes on your end.
For more info https://developers.google.com/adword...cookie_context

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10-02-2018 06:39 PM #2 theboss (Member)

Goodbye adwords affiliates. The only solution that works here is if the advertiser allows deep linking. Otherwise, the ad URL will never match the final URL and it's bye bye.

10-02-2018 07:22 PM #3 ThrvTrkr (Member)

Thrivetracker is actively building out the ability to accommodate Google Ads Parallel Tracking. We're excited to bring it to the platform for users to start switching everything over within the next two weeks.

In the meantime, you can already work with this model by direct linking to your landing page URL and using our Landing Page Pixel. We've expanded the LPP recently to work with or without cookie tracking enabled.

More to come on this topic very soon!

10-02-2018 07:42 PM #4 jordans (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by theboss View Post
Goodbye adwords affiliates. The only solution that works here is if the advertiser allows deep linking. Otherwise, the ad URL will never match the final URL and it's bye bye.
Using landing page pixels works fine. And if you're cloaking you can still just send money page users to your tracking like normal.

10-02-2018 09:36 PM #5 carramba (Member)

is it not gonna make
problems for cloakers? as I understand it there will be necessary to put google tracking code on landing page effectively revealing the real url where visitors go. correct me if I am wrong


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10-03-2018 06:02 PM #6 ThrvTrkr (Member)

This is 100% my personal opinion on the topic:

If you're cloaking on GoogleAds, you're just living on a knife-edge. That's not a long-term business play in the future, it's a sprint to see how much money you can make before they catch you.

That's a fine way to conduct your business, so long as you acknowledge and understand that is the reality of your business. However, if you believe cloaking is an absolute necessity in your long game, you would be better served doing it on other traffic sources that are more willing to look the other way.

Google and Facebook are the knights leading the crusade against BH campaign techniques and practices. Today, cloaking on either of them is just enjoying borrowed time while it's there.

10-03-2018 06:40 PM #7 zeno (Administrator)

We've done some testing and the reality is beacons from the parallel tracking are a bit useless, since its just notifying the tracker about a click but with no scope for redirection or influence, thus its better to just direct link to the lander and use our Javascript tracking. The one usefulness may be passing dynamic data to the tracker so that you don't have to include it in the page URL but if doing this you then have to do quite a lot of work with deduplication of visits, which can fail under some scenarios.

If you want to rotate pages or do anything beyond that you should just use PHP on the back-end to rotate content, or use a landing page delivery system that can dynamically serve pages under one URL.

I don't think it changes much since Adwords has been biased toward no-redirect (i.e. ad --> final destination) for a while now.

10-03-2018 11:37 PM #8 symba3 (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by ThrvTrkr View Post
That's not a long-term business play in the future, it's a sprint to see how much money you can make before they catch you.
I'm happy to make a few million dollars before they catch me. Am I crazy?

10-04-2018 12:51 AM #9 Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
We've done some testing and the reality is beacons from the parallel tracking are a bit useless, since its just notifying the tracker about a click but with no scope for redirection or influence, thus its better to just direct link to the lander and use our Javascript tracking. The one usefulness may be passing dynamic data to the tracker so that you don't have to include it in the page URL but if doing this you then have to do quite a lot of work with deduplication of visits, which can fail under some scenarios.

If you want to rotate pages or do anything beyond that you should just use PHP on the back-end to rotate content, or use a landing page delivery system that can dynamically serve pages under one URL.

I don't think it changes much since Adwords has been biased toward no-redirect (i.e. ad --> final destination) for a while now.
Yep, for anyone using landing pages, parallel tracking is not providing much value.

But it will hit any direct linking affiliate who doesn't know the work arounds to still direct link to certain offers after October 30th.

BTW: the October 30 deadline is only for search and shopping, mobile display and video has been moved back to March 2019.

I was launching Prosper202 1.9.52 today with parallel tracking support, but pushed it back specifically to support the ability to pass all the url data to the tracker via parallel tracking while leaving the lp url clean except for the gclid. It's a pretty neat way to remove traces of your tracker from the public lp url, while tracking important metrics needed to optimize.

10-04-2018 12:13 PM #10 carramba (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ThrvTrkr View Post
This is 100% my personal opinion on the topic:

If you're cloaking on GoogleAds, you're just living on a knife-edge. That's not a long-term business play in the future, it's a sprint to see how much money you can make before they catch you.

That's a fine way to conduct your business, so long as you acknowledge and understand that is the reality of your business. However, if you believe cloaking is an absolute necessity in your long game, you would be better served doing it on other traffic sources that are more willing to look the other way.

Google and Facebook are the knights leading the crusade against BH campaign techniques and practices. Today, cloaking on either of them is just enjoying borrowed time while it's there.

I only wrote that parallel tracking could make problems for cloakers, I do not condone cloaking, so I am not sure why this rant of yours.. :-)

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