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05-22-2018 11:58 AM #1 enigmaonline (Member)
Multiple FB Pixels / $20k per day spend

Hi All, I am new to STM and so far I can see some very knowledgable people on here, its great!

I have a question of my own: I run several 'grey hat' ecommerce websites for the past 3 years now and I spend on average $20,000 per day on Fb ads across a dozen accounts. (over $5million spent in 3 years).

My question is related to pixels:

1. I assume everyone using pixels to optimise and get the lowest CPA? ( I would be surprised if not)

2. Is there any known knowledge of accounts getting flagged for having multiple pixels on the same domain?

In the past I have done all my spending from just 1 or 2 accounts. But now my accounts are getting flagged a bit faster so I spread the risk/spending across a dozen or more FB accounts, and I am just curious as to if there is any correlation to do with multiple pixels and accounts being flagged? Maybe there is some other pixel tracking software that I am unaware of!

Thanks in advance guys!


05-22-2018 12:10 PM #2 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by enigmaonline View Post
Hi All, I am new to STM and so far I can see some very knowledgable people on here, its great!

I have a question of my own: I run several 'grey hat' ecommerce websites for the past 3 years now and I spend on average $20,000 per day on Fb ads across a dozen accounts. (over $5million spent in 3 years).

My question is related to pixels:

1. I assume everyone using pixels to optimise and get the lowest CPA? ( I would be surprised if not)

2. Is there any known knowledge of accounts getting flagged for having multiple pixels on the same domain?

In the past I have done all my spending from just 1 or 2 accounts. But now my accounts are getting flagged a bit faster so I spread the risk/spending across a dozen or more FB accounts, and I am just curious as to if there is any correlation to do with multiple pixels and accounts being flagged? Maybe there is some other pixel tracking software that I am unaware of!

Thanks in advance guys!
Not a pixel guy, so I can't answer that. But Facebook will flag your account for other possible reasons too, for example;
- domain flag (try to rotate as much as possible, although quite hard with an e-commerce store I guess?)
- tracker flag - at the moment FB is kinda harsh on trackers/redirects
- payment method flag - perhaps you are using a CC or such which already got flagged from other accounts
- ip/fingerprint flag - if they see you enter lots of accounts via same device it's like a domino effect

What error message is FB showing you on the flagged accounts mostly?


05-22-2018 12:26 PM #3 enigmaonline (Member)

Thanks for the reply!

Domains - Covered, always rotating.
Tracker - Never used one except for Fb pixel
Payment method - new CC for every account.
IP/fingerprint - Using a few tools which prevent this.

Honestly i think my accounts are primarily getting flagged from negative user feedback. (people reporting ads/page)

Most of my accounts will usually last 3-4 months and thats with me spending $5000 per day per account.

But i do get the odd few accounts which will flag pretty much right away for no apparent reason and always for 'policy violations' (sorry we don't support your business model)
so i just wondered wether multiple pixels on a domain would be considered 'spam' by FB.

Other wise i could just be spending to high budgets on new accounts. In the BH world is there a 'limit' which to not spend more than per account?

Also, you dont use pixels at all? Thats impressive and a bit surprising that your getting high ROI! In all my spend on Facebook i never imagined NOT using a pixel!


05-22-2018 12:48 PM #4 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by enigmaonline View Post
Thanks for the reply!

Domains - Covered, always rotating.
Tracker - Never used one except for Fb pixel
Payment method - new CC for every account.
IP/fingerprint - Using a few tools which prevent this.

Honestly i think my accounts are primarily getting flagged from negative user feedback. (people reporting ads/page)

Most of my accounts will usually last 3-4 months and thats with me spending $5000 per day per account.

But i do get the odd few accounts which will flag pretty much right away for no apparent reason and always for 'policy violations' (sorry we don't support your business model)
so i just wondered wether multiple pixels on a domain would be considered 'spam' by FB.

Other wise i could just be spending to high budgets on new accounts. In the BH world is there a 'limit' which to not spend more than per account?

Also, you dont use pixels at all? Thats impressive and a bit surprising that your getting high ROI! In all my spend on Facebook i never imagined NOT using a pixel!
Probably it's not as grey-hat as you think your ads/shops are, since policy violation is clearly an ad/offer issue. Perhaps they track it down via your pixel, that might be possible (but again, I never used it). For e-commerce it's kinda needed I think to use a pixel, I am doing mainly sweeps which is a "shoot-on-the-masses strategy" where in fact every woman 35+ is a potential lead.

Are you using real/legit/autorized cc's? Or virtual crap or other ones with shitty bins?

Doing xxxx a day spend for months is still quite big man, shouldn't complain too much hehe (ofcourse I don't know what your ROI is).


05-22-2018 09:56 PM #5 enigmaonline (Member)

CC's I get in bulk, directly from a bank; I have a connection. Definitely no virtual or prepaid stuff.

Indeed, thinking in hindsight my websites are probably borderline BH - but your right, definitely no complaints from my side! ROI is solid and my accounts do last quite a long time

Thanks for your help man.


05-23-2018 01:12 AM #6 mitchell (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stickupkid View Post
For e-commerce it's kinda needed I think to use a pixel, I am doing mainly sweeps which is a "shoot-on-the-masses strategy" where in fact every woman 35+ is a potential lead.
Do you just rely on a tracker? Do you never use LLA or Custom conversions?


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