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05-22-2018 11:58 AM
#1
enigmaonline (Member)
Multiple FB Pixels / $20k per day spend
Hi All, I am new to STM and so far I can see some very knowledgable people on here, its great!
I have a question of my own: I run several 'grey hat' ecommerce websites for the past 3 years now and I spend on average $20,000 per day on Fb ads across a dozen accounts. (over $5million spent in 3 years).
My question is related to pixels:
1. I assume everyone using pixels to optimise and get the lowest CPA? ( I would be surprised if not)
2. Is there any known knowledge of accounts getting flagged for having multiple pixels on the same domain?
In the past I have done all my spending from just 1 or 2 accounts. But now my accounts are getting flagged a bit faster so I spread the risk/spending across a dozen or more FB accounts, and I am just curious as to if there is any correlation to do with multiple pixels and accounts being flagged? Maybe there is some other pixel tracking software that I am unaware of!
Thanks in advance guys!
05-22-2018 12:10 PM
#2
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
enigmaonline
Hi All, I am new to STM and so far I can see some very knowledgable people on here, its great!
I have a question of my own: I run several 'grey hat' ecommerce websites for the past 3 years now and I spend on average $20,000 per day on Fb ads across a dozen accounts. (over $5million spent in 3 years).
My question is related to pixels:
1. I assume everyone using pixels to optimise and get the lowest CPA? ( I would be surprised if not)
2. Is there any known knowledge of accounts getting flagged for having multiple pixels on the same domain?
In the past I have done all my spending from just 1 or 2 accounts. But now my accounts are getting flagged a bit faster so I spread the risk/spending across a dozen or more FB accounts, and I am just curious as to if there is any correlation to do with multiple pixels and accounts being flagged? Maybe there is some other pixel tracking software that I am unaware of!
Thanks in advance guys!
Not a pixel guy, so I can't answer that. But Facebook will flag your account for other possible reasons too, for example;
- domain flag (try to rotate as much as possible, although quite hard with an e-commerce store I guess?)
- tracker flag - at the moment FB is kinda harsh on trackers/redirects
- payment method flag - perhaps you are using a CC or such which already got flagged from other accounts
- ip/fingerprint flag - if they see you enter lots of accounts via same device it's like a domino effect
What error message is FB showing you on the flagged accounts mostly?
05-22-2018 12:26 PM
#3
enigmaonline (Member)
Thanks for the reply!
Domains - Covered, always rotating.
Tracker - Never used one except for Fb pixel
Payment method - new CC for every account.
IP/fingerprint - Using a few tools which prevent this.
Honestly i think my accounts are primarily getting flagged from negative user feedback. (people reporting ads/page)
Most of my accounts will usually last 3-4 months and thats with me spending $5000 per day per account.
But i do get the odd few accounts which will flag pretty much right away for no apparent reason and always for 'policy violations' (sorry we don't support your business model)
so i just wondered wether multiple pixels on a domain would be considered 'spam' by FB.
Other wise i could just be spending to high budgets on new accounts. In the BH world is there a 'limit' which to not spend more than per account?
Also, you dont use pixels at all? Thats impressive and a bit surprising that your getting high ROI! In all my spend on Facebook i never imagined NOT using a pixel!
05-22-2018 12:48 PM
#4
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
enigmaonline
Thanks for the reply!
Domains - Covered, always rotating.
Tracker - Never used one except for Fb pixel
Payment method - new CC for every account.
IP/fingerprint - Using a few tools which prevent this.
Honestly i think my accounts are primarily getting flagged from negative user feedback. (people reporting ads/page)
Most of my accounts will usually last 3-4 months and thats with me spending $5000 per day per account.
But i do get the odd few accounts which will flag pretty much right away for no apparent reason and always for 'policy violations' (sorry we don't support your business model)
so i just wondered wether multiple pixels on a domain would be considered 'spam' by FB.
Other wise i could just be spending to high budgets on new accounts. In the BH world is there a 'limit' which to not spend more than per account?
Also, you dont use pixels at all? Thats impressive and a bit surprising that your getting high ROI! In all my spend on Facebook i never imagined NOT using a pixel!
Probably it's not as grey-hat as you think your ads/shops are, since policy violation is clearly an ad/offer issue. Perhaps they track it down via your pixel, that might be possible (but again, I never used it). For e-commerce it's kinda needed I think to use a pixel, I am doing mainly sweeps which is a "shoot-on-the-masses strategy" where in fact every woman 35+ is a potential lead.
Are you using real/legit/autorized cc's? Or virtual crap or other ones with shitty bins?
Doing xxxx a day spend for months is still quite big man, shouldn't complain too much hehe

(ofcourse I don't know what your ROI is).
05-22-2018 09:56 PM
#5
enigmaonline (Member)
CC's I get in bulk, directly from a bank; I have a connection. Definitely no virtual or prepaid stuff.
Indeed, thinking in hindsight my websites are probably borderline BH - but your right, definitely no complaints from my side! ROI is solid and my accounts do last quite a long time 
Thanks for your help man.
05-23-2018 01:12 AM
#6
mitchell (Member)

Originally Posted by
stickupkid
For e-commerce it's kinda needed I think to use a pixel, I am doing mainly sweeps which is a "shoot-on-the-masses strategy" where in fact every woman 35+ is a potential lead.
Do you just rely on a tracker? Do you never use LLA or Custom conversions?
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