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04-25-2018 12:59 AM #1 smartliketractor (Member)
Newbie Follow-Along

Hi Everyone! Finally taking the plunge into AFF, and rather than spend $2k on some course from a random person on the internet who will sell me another course for more info - I've decided to go straight to STM and learn from a great community. I genuinely don't know much about computers/coding/html/etc. but I'm willing to learn as long as there is a good guide to walk me through what I'm doing (like this one).

So far today I've taken steps 1-4 and have submitted for one ad so far on PropellerAds. Once it gets up and running I'll start posting screenshots of the progress.

Only question I have so far is with the bidding. The offer payout is 70 cents and should I leave the CPM at $2.33? If we are targeting 5k+ impressions, will that be enough to get data from?

Edit: Looks like it was approved and it's starting to get impressions!


04-25-2018 01:14 AM #2 Rurik (Member)

Depending on what country you are selecting ofcourse - but 2.33 is a higher bid than you would normally want to start with. Vortex makes it quite clear in Step 4 how to Gauge your bids. (Based on the estimations graph propeller ads provides)

check out Part 2 of day 4. It's an important read: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...llerAds-Part-2

I just double-checked this knowledge today when setting up my campaign.

As far as your question regarding data - It will be more than enough. FYI, 90% of campaigns start and end with -100% ROI, so don't get too excited

Good job on taking action!


04-25-2018 04:17 AM #3 wes888 (Member)

If you have the budget, I suggest doing a staggered bid on Propeller. One lower bid and one higher bid than the one recommended by PA.


04-25-2018 08:12 PM #4 smartliketractor (Member)

So an update on the two ads that were recommended by my AM. As expected ROI is near -100% but I did get my first conversion. I set the bids so they weren't on the "first bend of the bidding curve" and these are the stats.

https://imgur.com/prVExkk

Gonna go through the day 4-6 posts to figure out some possible adjustments.

Is there anything else that I should be posting or missing so far?

Edit: Gonna increase the CPM ad spend on both to see if it makes a difference.

Increase for "A" to $2.10.

https://imgur.com/QW8mOHv

Increase for "B" to $2.35.

https://imgur.com/aOmHixx


04-25-2018 09:34 PM #5 platinum (Veteran Member)

@smartliketractor before continuing further with these campaigns, kindly give us a few more details.

What kind of offers are you promoting?
Are you using landing pages on these campaigns? If yes, what is the average landing page ctr of your camp?
How is the traffic distributed among placements?

Try to add a few more details, like screenshots from your tracker so that you can help you better on sorting out things.


04-25-2018 11:04 PM #6 smartliketractor (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by platinum View Post
@smartliketractor before continuing further with these campaigns, kindly give us a few more details.

What kind of offers are you promoting?
Are you using landing pages on these campaigns? If yes, what is the average landing page ctr of your camp?
How is the traffic distributed among placements?

Try to add a few more details, like screenshots from your tracker so that you can help you better on sorting out things.
Offers - The two that were recommended by my AM is one video (CPA) and one game (CPA). Both are on 3G only.

I'm not using landing pages, yet. Just following along with the 40-day tutorial and I haven't made it to that point, yet.

Placements so far has been pretty concentrated on both ads, with most impressions coming from less than 5 sources. Only kicker is the only conversion so far has been on an odd-ball zone.

Screenshot of Voluum so far

https://imgur.com/XedRLfq


04-30-2018 07:03 PM #7 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Great start!

I would suggest not to spend too much time on direct-linking. The posts in this section will help:

https://stmforum.com/forum/forumdisp...ental-Material

Feel free to test a few more carrier-billing offers from the AM-recommended lists posted in threads in the section above. But start testing landers ASAP.

Setting up your first campaign(s) correctly is a feat, and since direct-linked camps are so easy to set up, it's the fastest way to get you to that milestone.

Ideally, the direct-linked campaigns would generate some conversions to give you the opportunity to learn how to optimize a campaign based on analyzing stats, but because the number of good carrier-billing offers has declined drastically over the past months, it would likely waste more money to learn campaign optimization with such offers, as compared to using landers with say sweeps offers.

So - direct-linked campaigns have served their purpose for you. Time to move onto landers.




Amy


05-18-2018 03:27 PM #8 smartliketractor (Member)

So after a hiatus from work, a work conference and some family health issues, I'm back on the saddle.

Spending today and possibly this weekend learning basic coding so I can use landers. Should be fun learning new stuff!


05-21-2018 08:36 PM #9 smartliketractor (Member)

So I made it through the all HTML lessons and most CSS lessons. Still a lot more to go, but getting the hang of it.

Should I sign up for AdPlexity and start using it to research new campaigns before creating a new domain for a vertical? I figured I would start with Sweeps, but AdPlexity may tell me other areas are newer or more profitable.

Any thoughts?


05-21-2018 08:59 PM #10 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by smartliketractor View Post
So I made it through the all HTML lessons and most CSS lessons. Still a lot more to go, but getting the hang of it.

Should I sign up for AdPlexity and start using it to research new campaigns before creating a new domain for a vertical? I figured I would start with Sweeps, but AdPlexity may tell me other areas are newer or more profitable.

Any thoughts?
Sweeps are fine, no need to get adplexity JUST to confirm this. But in order to get some solid LPs and possibly banners to run campaigns with, getting adplexity for at least a month is highly suggested. It makes a lot of sense to start testing with proven Lps/banners/offers, instead of testing stuff blindly. Since you are new, the blind approach is gonna cost you more in the long run ...


05-22-2018 04:20 PM #11 smartliketractor (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Sweeps are fine, no need to get adplexity JUST to confirm this. But in order to get some solid LPs and possibly banners to run campaigns with, getting adplexity for at least a month is highly suggested. It makes a lot of sense to start testing with proven Lps/banners/offers, instead of testing stuff blindly. Since you are new, the blind approach is gonna cost you more in the long run ...
Copy that.

Day 21 hosting and CDN are all setup. Gonna wait until tomorrow to make sure everything is propagated then I'll be signing up for AdPlexity.


05-24-2018 02:45 PM #12 smartliketractor (Member)

So I've been spinning my wheels trying to get S3, CF and NS1 to all work together. I went as far as creating a new bucket in S3 and checked up and down the Day 21 tutorial.

The error that I'm receiving is this when I try to access the domain, either with or without "www."

https://imgur.com/1Nn5veg

These are the origin settings for CF, although the "grant read permissions" seems to revert back to "no" when I try and edit the settings .

https://imgur.com/a/ARRSkiH

Any advice on where to check next?

Thanks

Edit: Also, the S3 bucket is set to public, per the instructions.


05-25-2018 02:08 PM #13 smartliketractor (Member)

Finally said screw it and started a whole new domain, S3, CF and NS1.

Thankfully, no problems viewing the test lander!

The new account is setup at adplexity and now it's time to find some landers to rip!


05-25-2018 07:51 PM #14 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Wow - kudos on getting past the tech issues!

Did you find out what the problem was?



Amy


05-28-2018 10:04 PM #15 smartliketractor (Member)

So what do you guys think about this situation?

- The sweeps offer I'm targeting already has a pre-lander built in which looks identical to the #1 lander on AdPlexity (for that geo).
- Should I even bother creating a LP if it already has a pre-lander?
- Should I just direct link the offer using the top ten placement IDs from AdPlexity, or would it be better to just test it like normal?



Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
Wow - kudos on getting past the tech issues!

Did you find out what the problem was?



Amy
No, but I did make sure those CF options were checked when I started the new domain vs going back later on.


05-29-2018 10:44 AM #16 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

- The sweeps offer I'm targeting already has a pre-lander built in which looks identical to the #1 lander on AdPlexity (for that geo).
- Should I even bother creating a LP if it already has a pre-lander?
- Should I just direct link the offer using the top ten placement IDs from AdPlexity, or would it be better to just test it like normal?
Using exactly the same LP and then sending it to their prelander ... doesn't make much sense indeed.

But even with built in prelanders, many offers convert better when you use an additional one, but it should be different from the one they are using.

The best way is to split test this, link it direct and test an additional LP too.


05-29-2018 10:47 AM #17 Mobidea (Veteran Member)

Hello!

If there is already a good prelander, you can test it.
For the placements, it might be better to just test normally. Because, firstly, you never know where the offer will convert and secondly, you can avoid the bigger competition.


05-29-2018 09:00 PM #18 smartliketractor (Member)

Any advice for fixing landers that aren't in english?

The most popular one for "samsung" + geo results in one that has A LOT more traffic, but since I can't read the language, I'm not sure what portions to fix.

Is it best to just outsource this one? Thanks


05-29-2018 09:53 PM #19 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by smartliketractor View Post
Any advice for fixing landers that aren't in english?

The most popular one for "samsung" + geo results in one that has A LOT more traffic, but since I can't read the language, I'm not sure what portions to fix.

Is it best to just outsource this one? Thanks
Yup, there are several services that you can use for this : onehourtranslation.com, transey.com ... or go to upwork or fiverr, plenty of people over there will gladly help you with it. Just make sure you are using native speakers.


05-30-2018 04:08 AM #20 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by smartliketractor View Post
So what do you guys think about this situation?

- The sweeps offer I'm targeting already has a pre-lander built in which looks identical to the #1 lander on AdPlexity (for that geo).
- Should I even bother creating a LP if it already has a pre-lander?
- Should I just direct link the offer using the top ten placement IDs from AdPlexity, or would it be better to just test it like normal?
For some options regarding offers that already have built-in pre-landers, please see here:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post344925


Any advice for fixing landers that aren't in english?

The most popular one for "samsung" + geo results in one that has A LOT more traffic, but since I can't read the language, I'm not sure what portions to fix.

Is it best to just outsource this one? Thanks
As for landers in other languages: Just download landers that are already in the desired language to avoid having to translate. You CAN use google translate if you like - they've become quite accurate over the years (and chances are some of the landers you rip were translated using google translate). Shorter and simpler sentences tend to translate better, so if you need to, rewrite all the text into short sentences before using google translate (and exclude figures of speech or slang - stuff that isn't easy to translate and could throw off google translate).

Alternatively you can buy Fiverr gigs (pick ones with lots of reviews and a star rating of 4.5+). They're cheap but will take some time. OneHourTranslation.com is quick but expensive.



Amy


05-30-2018 04:35 PM #21 Mobidea (Veteran Member)

As Amy said, the phrases should be catchy and short. If there is not a big amount of text you can try to ask for a help on the language exchange websites like Easy Language Exchange or Speaky, just make sure people are natives
Or if you are translating with google, try to check it in the search engine of this country.


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