I need HELP... please let me prove I can be valuable for you! (34)
I need HELP... please let me prove I can be valuable for you!
Please, please help me.
I’m inside a vicious circle from which it seems I can’t get out.
It’s been 2 years since I started studying affiliate marketing... and I never managed to achieve good results.
I really have put all my energies in improving my situation, but difficulties of life always pushed me down.
I can’t tell you the story of my life here, but I never managed to save good amounts of money to invest, despite my sacrifices… and this has always led me to fail before starting and testing.
I need the help of someone who believe in me and give me the chance and the resources to prove what I can do.
Ideally, I'm looking for someone to partner with.
Obviously, every outsourced work will be more than appreciated.
PLEASE, GIVE ME A HAND AND LET ME PROVE I CAN BE VALUABLE FOR YOU.
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Which are my skills? I’m a handyman of the internet (and offline, too).. ask if you want me to be more specific.
Which are my strengths? Speed reading and fast learning.
Which are my weaknesses? I’m a megalomaniac dreamer with very low hope.
I would first start with the fact that you don’t have to force yourself into affiliate marketing
I really have put all my energies in improving my situation, but difficulties of life always pushed me down.
I can’t tell you the story of my life here, but I never managed to save good amounts of money to invest, despite my sacrifices… and this has always led me to fail before starting and testing.
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When it comes to saving enough money for your next project, you need to put some really aggressive goals and limitations to yourself. At least this is what worked for me. Before even thinking about getting into this, I worked my ass off several jobs at the same time, ignoring late hours, sleeping hours, social life and so on. In a few words you need to adapt.
Learning is certainly important before investing your savings, but taking action is even more important.
Give us a few more details on what your biggest challenges and skills are. I believe you can still achieve the results you’re looking for using some extra help from STM family.
Damn dude -
You need to sauce your value up a bit.
a) This comes across as " I have problems and i need saving" - The value in the proposition is non-existant.
b) People who are successful don't take on people coming from a scarcity mindset. This is the opposite of what they stand for...
Opportunities are endless if you force yourself to see them and start somewhere. If you never had the money to invest, then you didn't ACTUALLY try affiliate marketing. You need to spend thousands of dollars, and figure out how your going to put yourself in a position to make it work.
Personally, it took me 2 years of Assessing myself, working on my character and my priorities JUST to get into a position where i COULD be successful at affiliate marketing - I got a Freelance job first to work from home, I moved back in with my parents, I quit smoking, drinking, doing drugs, I stopped going out. I put in 80 hours a week into working on AFF - and i don't have a life outside of making this work. I spend 100% of my money on affiliate marketing...
It doesn't sound like your ready to be an affiliate marketer. It's either you have the money already - Or you make the sacrifices necessary.
Life ain't easy. Whatever you have to do, you need to do it -
I apologize for being harsh, but you ain't gonna make it coming from this frame.
I think the rest of the people on this forum would agree...
Originally Posted by platinum
I'm not talking about the money, but I'm referring to the mindset and the way of working.
Originally Posted by platinum
Originally Posted by platinum
I spent the last years (many years, not just two) studying and studying... now I have 2 grands to invest and if I spend all of them by myself, the risk of failing is way to high.
It's time to get in the game seriously and I don't want to do it by myself.
Originally Posted by platinum
P.s. "STM family" sounds sooo good... that's exactly what I wanted to breathe!
Originally Posted by Rurik
I know that opportunities are endless, but sometimes "fate" delivers bad strikes.
I'm not crying and I don't expect to receive undeserved treatment.
I'm here on STM taking my first action to change my way of approaching Affiliate Marketing.
Originally Posted by Rurik
I made sacrifices for the last two years and I'm ready to make more.
It's just I'm sick and tired of doing everything by myself and I would love to start pairing with someone I like working with.
Originally Posted by Rurik
Originally Posted by platinum
My biggest challenge is becoming able to adapt the "affiliate marketing approach" to the businesses and projects I want to do in my life.
With "affiliate marketing approach" I refer to the idea of sharing the value to multiply the value itself. Then, everyone has bigger earnings.
My biggest skill could be my curiosity, combined with a rational mind that allow me to analyze what I learn and to "link the dots”.
LONG ANSWER
I’ll try to introduce myself more precisely to give a better idea of who I am and, consequently, to help anyone who is willing to "team up” to evaluate the situation in a better way.
I am an active person. Mentally and in life.
At 19 (after finishing high school as a private candidate so I could work at the same time) I travelled around the world by myself for 8 months (mostly South America and South-East Asia)
I went back to Italy to work and save money and I left again: 8 more months, travelling around India and Indonesia, then went to Australia (where I stopped working for a while) and then in South-East Asia, again.
I love South-East Asia!
Traveling helped me to find the courage to define what I wanted to be and what I wanted to do: having experiences (and to treasure them), meeting people, living in the world.
I like keeping myself informed, I like to know the reality of the facts and make autonomous decisions, based on what I know and not on what is reported.
I love reading (and fast reading helps me out when I need it), learning and applying: from oriental philosophy to webdesign, from PNL to playing instruments, from climbing to video editing.
I hope not to seem vain. Simply, the world is changing, it is constantly evolving and I am part of it, trying not to get lost.
I am self-taught in many areas.
I am an honest person, I don't like those who live for themselves to the detriment of others.
Even while working, I have always tried to make the most out of my abilities, learning from those who could teach me something, without abusing or cheating. Unfortunately, however, I have hardly ever been reciprocated in the same way.
When I finished my second trip I came back to Italy to put all my efforts in business, trying to create the base for a free life.
Chances wanted me to meet a guy who had an empty loft in the center of Bologna but no money at all to invest on it.
We got an agreement and I started working on it.
The flat was pretty big and the money were not that much: less than 10.000€ to set up a 300m² apartment.
There were no furnitures, no bathrooms, no floors: I had to do every work by myself, from start to finish, and afterwards I launched a B&B activity.
My working-partner was super lazy and never did anything… it was tough but I learned a lot.
For the first year, beside the fact that I had to do everything by myself, everything went great: I had a lot of fun and I met the love of my life.
After some more months I hit BEP and I transformed the B&B to apartments; I rented them out, so I didn’t have to do anything.
At that point, I moved from Bologna to Naples because I don’t really like living in my city and I wanted to go in a warmer place near by the sea. It was when I studied affiliate marketing for the first time.
Beautiful experience (and Naples, awesome place!), but after just 3 months I had to go back to Bologna because everything was turning to shit.
For some reason (probably, jealousy), the partner stopped paying the bills (even though it was basically the only thing he had to do) and the apartments remained without gas and electricity.
For some reason, the tenants never told me anything (even if they had always talked with me before my leaving and, of course, they had my number) and after a while they left the house (why they preferred to live for free for almost two months without electricity and water.
When I found it out and went back, I sold all the furnitures and I fucked him off.
Was it a success? No.
Have I done everything right? No.
Have I learnt some lessons? Absolutely yes!
At that point, I had some savings but no revenues at all: I had to focus on one thing and carry it out properly, in order to start having profit again.
I could have kept things simpler and invest my savings wisely, but my dreaming-megalomaniac mind has been stronger than my will and judgment.
I should have picked one business and focus on it, but I have been too fragmented and that has been one of the biggest mistake.
I was giving for granted that I would have made profits with one of the projects. Big mistake.
Until now, none of my projects have hit the green.
Luckily I found freelance works that permitted me to survive until now.. I always tried to save as much as I could, but life is unpredictable and
Now I have 2 grands saved for AM and I’m tired of waiting.
If I start by myself, I could fail easily. Too many variables. That’s why I would love to pair with one or more people who already have experience in this field and be valuable for them (or him).
I have lot of ideas I would like to develop: therefore, if I had a lot of money and a lot of experience (which I don’t have at the moment), I would search for trusted and pleasant people to work with: delegation is an option, but collaboration is a way of working I prefer.
Anyway, after ups and downs, what do I have now?
- I bought a rundown apartment and I renovated it: now it’s for sale and I hope for a 30k profit;
- I have 500 copies of a card game created by me (I should have spent the money on marketing and presales, instead of producing 500 copies… another big lesson I learnt);
- My biggest project: a booking platform for a millionaire niche with no booking platform at all. I have a collaboration with a marketing professor of an university of Milan and we are developing this together. We’re looking for investors, but the beta will be launched in few months.
I hope this can give a better idea about “who I am” and that someone will start a conversation… and then, start a small project to test if we get along well.
For any further questions, just ask
I suggest you read the sh*t out of STM and start a campaign asap. I am afraid upper story won't motivate anyone to take you by the hand honestly. If this forum will not help you enough, I guess AM isn't your thing indeed.
Like everyone already said, no experienced affiliate will take you under his wing and show you the ropes. You have to understand that this is a very competitive domain. If you really want to partner up with someone, you need to show some skills. You haven't provided any useful skills, anyone can read and browse the internet like you wrote in the first post. The harsh truth is that Affiliate Marketing is hard nowadays, and you will most certainly fail thousands of time, like we all do. But if you keep going at it, you will start seeing success as well. My advice would be, start getting a stable job so you don't have completely rely on your savings, and start doing Affiliate Marketing in between. Start by reading this entire forum, very valuable information, and then go ahead and throw yourself out there, test, see for yourself how things work. If you keep going at it without giving up, I promise you, you will start seeing success, good luck.
Originally Posted by stickupkid
There's no point in studying if you don't take action!
Originally Posted by stickupkid
I am not looking for mercy nor gifts!
I am not expecting a magical help from a millionaire who says “hey you stranger! Take a look to everything I know to make money! Here’s everything I know, right here!”
I'm here asking for help because I would love collaborating with someone, in order to have more consistent results and hopefully knowing stimulating people, too.
Every investments involve taking risks: but if you invest "on me" (even if "with me" would be more correct, since I would invest the same amount of money), the risk is super small (just to say, 1000$ should be nuts for successful Affiliate Marketers) compared to the potential earnings you could have in years.
Originally Posted by blackemil
Originally Posted by blackemil
Originally Posted by blackemil
Therefore, a successful Affiliate Marketer is, basically, a person who can get more profits than losses over time.
He can do this because of his knowledge and experience, but the variables are so many that he can't stop failing, too.
He can't buy perfection and he can't buy more time, so how can he make more money (and more projects, beyond the money)?
Is not collaboration the best thing to do?
Of course, he had to test the collaborator (as he tests everything else)... but what if the collaboration would hit the green?
I think it may be easier if you try to first get some experience in a digital agency. I think this way you can at least learn some basics before you try things on your own.
Your exact words in first post;
"PLEASE, GIVE ME A HAND AND LET ME PROVE I CAN BE VALUABLE FOR YOU.”
Let’s say I have 1k falling out of my pocket, why should I invest it in/on/with you?
What are your exact online marketing skills, or what you bring to the table instead of being a fast reader/learner? Which are not added values to any of us. Unless you get paid by reading stuff fast (not sure if that job exist?), then I am glad to invest and take a cut.
I don't believe your issue is your lack of skills you actually sound energetic and open-minded, I believe your issue is your mindset. As was mentioned above, scarcity is repelling to people. How do you feel when a person in the street asks you for money?
Have you read some follow-alongs here? People have similar lack of skills like you do but their posts come from a different mindset, ready to learn and "take hits" and then more experienced people are happy to jump in and help.
Tony Robbins says becoming rich is 80% psychology and 20% mechanics
Man,
The thing is, I think everybody that has read this can see of piece of themselves in your words (What a trip man.. lol)
Unfortunately I see the part of myself that I wouldn't have relied on very much - and a mentality I'm glad I've outgrown.
A) Why is it that you assume that you have some sort of "special abilities"... There is absolutely no evidence this is true from everyone else's point of view. The only thing that separates you from other people is what you have accomplished and what you have done.
If i said that "i could be really good at building houses, if only you buy all the supplies" --- You would roll your eyes and think i'm crazy. - this is not far from the situation
b) When you say "doing everything myself" --- what do you mean by this? You absolutely cannot do everything by yourself, You don't have the skills yet.
(However, i can sympathize with the idea that many of us had also assumed "We could just do it if we really tried" - but the reality is you have no idea when it takes until you do. The "Mental Map" You've constructed is just a grossly-oversimplified figment of your imagination - the real map is filled with un-predictability.)
c) You have gone through "some really bad luck" But you are not taking responsibility for the fact that you spent a bunch of money travelling around the world for a VERY generous period of time - Are your financial problems because of "your roommate"... or because of the last 2-3 years of what you've been doing with your free time, and the money you've spent, decisions you've made to enjoy rather than invest? (Nothing wrong with either, but you can't get upset at the results)
d) Chill the F*ck out. It's not a race - There's no "Time limit" to making it.
There's nothing wrong with canceling your Subscription, saving some money and building some skills to come back to affiliate marketing. Don't spend money on an STM subscription if you aren't in a position to use it 100%. It's 1200$ per year you could save for when you are REALLY ready.
e) Lastly - as to the "STM family" -- We aren't a family... It's a bunch of people who mostly don't know each other, exchanging value. Whether it's interesting content, useful tips , the feeling of helping someone who deserves and appreciates your help... or in this case.. the humor of the situation.
You are assuming that we don't understand something -
But i think that your problem is that we (a bit of an assumption) understand all too well what it's like to be in your position. Once you accomplish more, you'll feel the same way, I promise!
Here's a picture that explains the situation pretty elegantly: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vP...nM1FA-A9BVa8XO --- Mind you, this man won a Nobel Prize for Psychology.
I sympathize with your situation all too well.
Also, just to clarify something as well:: I myself am new to affiliate (well, ish ) But if you become an "Skilled" member of any group any appealing industry with a high-fail-rate and many people coming searching to "end their problems"... You learn pretty quickly how to distinguish those who have a good frame and those who are ready to blame their failures on everything, everybody else. The mentality always stays the same. It's beyond industries, cultures, people... and the single most important deciding factor (that you can control)
Originally Posted by Rurik
Originally Posted by stickupkid
Originally Posted by cmdeal
Originally Posted by Rurik
Hey Rurik, I really thank you for the effort you put to answer me, but I don't think you understood the person I am and my intentions.
I'm afraid that asking for help did worse damages than everything else.
In my perspective, asking for help is not "scarcity", but a human being asking for help in that moment.
Anyway it's ok, I understood this hasn't be the best way to find what I was looking for.
Originally Posted by mihalis09
It's just I didn't want to use "psychological tricks" in this forum, but just being transparent.
Thanks for the answer anyway!
Originally Posted by mihalis09
It was just a one-time test I did in november, so I have to run another campaign soon and I'll update it... I hope I'll receive hints from experienced people too then!
@cmdeal, @lukeexperience - Ya caught me! It's an ig nobel prize. I was wrong damn internet got me again!
@lukeexperience - Ok man, i wish you good luck nonetheless. Maybe i'm biased because my personal experience is
- Thinking i "have some sort of advantage" for no reason.
- Externalizing "problems" that keep me from my goals. Even though my lifestyle, personal decisions are what really what kept me back.
I tend to assume these are the culprits when i hear of people's "extraordinary ability to have success, which is constantly overturned by fate, even though they are much brighter/more adept than the regular person"
Very familiar story.
Hi Luke! I've been watching this discussion unfold.
I can tell that everyone means well - this is a friendly community - but IMO some of the comments did come across as being a bit harsh.
I can sense that you're determined, that you're intelligent and have valuable skills, that you're not looking for a hand-out. You're probably just suffering from information overload and choice phobia which is all too common among affiliates. And the fact that you have a finite amount of money to spend is likely adding to the uncertainty as to which specific direction to take - because 2k will not allow you to make the "wrong" choice too many times.
Let me be honest with you: 2k isn't a lot of money. And even if I were to take you by the hand and coach you every step of the way, I can't guarantee that you'll be making consistent profits before that money runs out. In fact, I don't think ANY mentor/coach could make you that guarantee (if so, I'd ask to see proof!)
I don't offer coaching services outside of this forum, but let's chat and see if I could provide some direction. Will PM you.
Hang in there! Everybody always ends up somewhere eventually, and so will you.
Amy
Originally Posted by vortex
@luke, Not saying you are, but you do come across as looking for a lifeline (by my read). Unfortunately this is super common to want and super rare to get. I sure wanted it when I was first starting and even now when I'm having a rough patch (consistent profits and scale are my challenge currently) I sometimes wish that someone would just make it easy for me.
Truth is that this is a great place to get help, but of course you do need to show tangible manifestations of your hustle before many people will be on your side and try to help you.
To echo others I really think you should find a way to save up more money before diving into this as a solo affiliate, or like cmdeal said, get a job at a digital agency. I started as a solo aff, was successful for a few campaigns, then burnt through my risk capital and found myself broke in the winter in NYC and really not wanting to go back to being a waiter. I leveraged my experience into a job as a FB buyer at an agency, learned a ton and saved some money, and then was able to re-enter the affiliate space way more prepared. If you try with such a low budget and its money that you can't really afford to lose, you'll make emotional decisions and just from that alone will have a much lower chance of succeeding.
All the best my friend, hope you find your way!
I really want to thank all of you from my heart for your answers.
I knew that subscribing again to STM was a good choice: you can breathe life and energy here (even if the conversation becomes a little harsh... respect is the only thing that can't lack).
And that's what I was looking for.
As I pointed out, I am not looking for magical help, but for nice people to "work with" (in inverted commas, because I see the work as a part of life, not something cold and aseptic that you do to "make money").
Amy (Vortex) got the exact point of my asking-for-help: "the fact that I have a finite amount of money to spend is likely adding to the uncertainty as to which specific direction to take - because 2k will not allow me to make the "wrong" choice too many times. "
I studied A LOT, I applied and I made experiences on the field: NOW I want to be as much effective as I can, with the resources I have AT THE MOMENT.
2k are not that much, I know. But that's what I have for Affiliate Marketing, to this day.
At the same time, I have other projects (freelances and personal ones) going on (beside the fact that I'm trying to sell my house for a high price because I renovated it quite well).
So 2 grands could become 3 grands the next month... or 20 if I sell the house for which I'm having many visits in this period (for the price I'm selling it now, I would hit a 30k profit).
So thanks for the encouragement, the answers, the advices and the critiques.
Until now, it's been a wonderful start for this "new" journey!
P.S.
I hope I didn't seem arrogant or annoying.
Sometimes I seem presumptuous, but it's only because I have a very direct way of expressing myself.
If I bothered anyone, I apologize.
Is there anyone who want to test a collaboration?
Vortex has been superkind adding me on Skype and she's already been helpful.
I told her about some of my projects and, referring to one of them, she said I could have a "gold mine" in my hands.
So for that project, I would love to cooperate with her.
At the same time, I have some others in my mind (which I reckon they could have good potential) for which I would like to search for other "partners".
Anyone interested?
Originally Posted by lukeexperience
I would love to cooperate with Amy for that and I'm waiting for her answer...
Meanwhile... why staying with my arms folded?
Originally Posted by lukeexperience
Meanwhile... why staying with my arms folded?
Originally Posted by cmdeal
Anyway, do you advise against finding new "partners"?
I'm aware I can sound arrogant, but I dont' realise how and why collaborations aren't well-liked in this forum (this is what I perceived, at least).
Isn't it the best way to make more money and to be more productive?
Beside these practical sides, you can get to know nice people (without wanting a 'value demonstration' before the start of the relationship).
Originally Posted by lukeexperience
Originally Posted by lukeexperience
Originally Posted by stickupkid
I have a limited amount of money and limited AM experience, so they would be both useful for a collaboration, in order to achieve better results.
Money is less important because with money you are just buying traffic, not results.
What am I putting on the plate?
My limited experience, my limited amount of money and my massive numbers of ideas (some are good, some are not... many will come in the future... some good ones, some bad ones!)
I know that ideas are worth nothing by themselves... but that would be the small risk involved in investing in a collaboration with me.
You could end up with nothing, after losing some time and some money, or you could find a good collaborator, who will always have new ideas and who will strive to give birth to them!
In my life I love sharing, not accumulating and keeping everything for myself.
Originally Posted by stickupkid
I'll try to make my best to organize a trip to Barcelona for July...
Hey Luke! I've just responded to your messages on skype. It's a real challenge trying to keep up with the various chat platforms these days...
I'm quite busy these days with STM and other projects, so may not make a good person to collaborate with. But I could at least try to provide some feedback to get the ball rolling for you!
Let's chat further on skype...
Amy
I just want to comment, this forum has some really nice people.
damn bro, the only thing I would say is you need to hustle man.
do whatever you can to get the money to invest into affiliate marketing.
Become obsessed with making this work.
Evenutally you'll start t ounderstand how this business i played.
Then once you become good at marketing you can start a small agency and help business owners get leads through paid ads.
CHarge them a monthly retainer. You can even get a decent paying job running ads for companies.
this business is beaitful because it opens doors you never would have believed.
Just keep moving forward and take action
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