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Is propellerads or other pop traffic worthit?? (16)

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I am trying to buy pop traffic from popads, popcash, propeller and more for many different offers CPI, CPL, CC submit offers direct linking and through landers as well.

Till now no success coming so far. Just wanted to know if pop traffic sources really convert well??

If yes then how to optimize and what is the perfect strategy to get profits?

Please help . .

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POP traffic is quite hard to make work, but yes, it can work.

Converting well? Probably not.

Cheap and available in high volumes? Definitely.

POPs are still the best choice for a newbie, to learn the basics with. It's the most cost effective choice.

As for a strategy, we have plenty of threads about POPs on the forum, even Amy's 40 day newbie guide is based on POP traffic : https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ntro-and-Index

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Thanks mate for info!! Till now I burnt huge amount in it even with using landers. What kind of traffic I should test with landers ??

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Indeed Propeller is one of the biggest Pop sources available. With the huge amount of traffic they serve often times requires quite aggressive optimization to get rid of those poor zones. Do you already have a manager for your account? They should be able to give you some insights about your targeting needs, bids and so on.

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You can stay with propeller for now, but it's like platinum mentioned, with that many placements, you need to optimize quite aggressively and definitely use some bot test.

POP traffic is still the most cost effective "learning ground" and it's still possible to make profits with it. Many people move elsewhere, once they learn the basics with POPs, but it's still one of the best options for the starters.

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Thanks for your response mate . .

Issue is How can I do optimization of 0 conversions all sources and spent of $25-30 daily .

Account managers never share their top or good zones to target.. Are they??

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Can you tell me more about bot test ??

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@adaptiveakki here are a few answers to your questions

Check out Amy's latest guides here

In case you turn out to be a big spender, yes a manager can help you find out more profitable spots easier. This simply because they will want you to spend more. So as long as you are profitable and run higher volumes, it's a Win-Win for both of you.

By sources spending $25-$30 daily do you mean campaigns or zones (publishers)?
With $25-$30 spend a day per campaign you should be able to see at least one or more conversions while simultaneously optimizing.

You have a few up-to-date solid methods you can follow. Check out links below.

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Live-Campaigns
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ffic-in-Voluum

To properly run a bot test on your campaigns, you need to use landing pages. In case you are direct-linking your campaigns, it will be a bit more complicated to get reliable results.

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Hi,

Pop can convert well, it is important to keep optimize your campaigns.

You can read about optimization strategies on our support center ->
All You Need to Know about Optimization

You can also consult your account manager

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We've ran pop for the past 4 yrs, and still do. It's awesome, and fairly easy way to test, you'll know fairly quickly if your lander works or not. As with display/native you have to worry about Ad copy and the image of the ad's CTR's and CVR's, before even getting to the LP, and then needing to test LP's CTR's and CVR's. With pop it's just a matter of testing a few variables against an LP, or direct linking (carrier, browser, device ect). So if you're new, pop is prop the best way to start learning, if you're a veteran, and not testing pops, definitely leaving money on the table.

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Question to the OP: How many landers have you tested? And how many offers?

Are you jumping from geo to geo, vertical to vertical? Or are you testing at least 5-10 landers for a single geo+vertical, finding a winning lander, then using that winning lander to test lots of offers for that geo+vertical?

Do the above to make sure you have a good funnel, then test different bids, and cut placements etc.

Practice until you can make Propeller profitable - it's one of the best pop sources already, both in terms of quality and volume.

Once you have some skill and can consistently make profits, expand to lots of other sources - here are links to posts to list some of them:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post327140

Have fun! If you want to look at your campaigns in greater detail, feel free to post screenshots of stats.



Amy

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Pop CAN be profitable even for a newbie. I finished Amy's guide while simultaneously practicing what's in the guide and trying new things I thought of, AKA losing a shit ton of money. It's just how it is, you have to keep testing new offers and testing those offers with different traffic sources.

I thought Propellerads was trash but now I'm running the most profitable campaign yet using only propellerads, getting +100-150% ROI. I'm about to cash out my first 1k. And yes, my join date is when I started AM.

Also I would strongly recommend using landers, at this stage the best thing you can do is rip landers with spy tools like Adplexity and make sure you edit them correctly. I haven't had any profitable campaign direct-linking, I'm sure its possible though.

I tested around 4-5 landers for the same offer, then I tested if I only whitelist the most profitable placements wether I'd get a better ROI, I did this by making a new campaign on both my tracker and traffic source. Then I chose the 2 best landers and am constantly changing and testing placements while never going down 50% ROI.

Pop moves fast so you have to do the same if you want to squeeze the most amount of profit you can when you do find that first green campaign.

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Thanks for your feedback . . I am also trying to follow all links above. Just wanted to know with landers what kind of offers you tried for propeller. CPI, CPL, CC submit , COD offers?

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I have tried both direct link or landers

1. Landers for antivirus type offers CPI, some mobile subscription offer
2. Direct linking with majorly CPI offers.

For CPI I got conversions and quality in hardly 1-2 offers out of 20 offers. What I am thinking is to follow guides and try to implement and add a follow on story to get ideas.

Secondly - I am thinking weather to use POP or not. I have offers CPI, CPA, nutra, CPL for which I am not sure pop will work?? or should I try native , banner or facebook

Lots of questions hitting in my novice mind

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POPs isnt the best traffic type for offers with complicated flows ... so nutra or CC submits ... simple flows work the best, so SOI or CPI. You will have to use LPs in most cases.

And yes, prepare for mass testing of offers, it's hard to find solid offers that would work on POPs.

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Lots of valuable advice has been given. There's one other thing I want to point out:

Traffic prices are driven by the market. They reflect the prices advertisers are willing to pay for the traffic - and long-term speaking nobody would be stupid enough to keep paying if they keep losing money.

By that logic, people must still be making money at the current bid prices.

Sure enough, there are advertisers that are either running exclusive offers you don't have access to, or are cloaking, or own the offers they're running so they have bigger profit margins. But until the day when pop sources get completely taken over by such types of competition to the point where no affiliates like yourself - running publicly-available offers using landers you can rip from spy tools and running uncloaked - can possibly make profits, you'll still be able to make money. (And that day definitely is NOT here yet!)

And if you're not - that means you need to test more offers and landers and bids, be smarter about campaign settings and targeting, be more efficient with your budget, have a smarter testing and optimization approach (including the use of automation for example).

And of course - as I've pointed out above, avoiding the worst competition by seeking out less-known networks can be a great strategy. And if you could go direct and buy traffic from webmasters, even better.

daledd - thanks for that feedback! It's comments like yours that make my job so satisfying. All the best!




Amy

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