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02-16-2018 03:17 AM #1 bluecrayon (Member)
Is US nutra on the verge of death?

Anyone running US nutra will know cap has dried out this past while. The big banks have been shutting down ALL trial MID's.

Didn't thought this would happen so soon but is this the end for nutra trials? Do you think advertisers can somehow find a way around this?


02-16-2018 07:25 AM #2 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Lol, you didn't expect this to collapse since everyody is jumping on it like a mad man with the sleaziest angles every seen? Oh boy...


02-16-2018 09:31 AM #3 blackemil (Junior Moderator)

The nutra vertical will never die, advertisers will just adapt, see COD offers. Maybe the ROI% will not be as great as it was with the trial offers, but the vertical will still be much alive.


02-16-2018 09:54 AM #4 geobak (Member)

Straight Sales will go up


02-16-2018 01:49 PM #5 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

All shady billing methods/models will get regulated sooner or later, it's something that's happening over and over. I'm sure some other similar approach will emerge sooner or later, but for now, you'll have to go with direct sales.


02-16-2018 04:42 PM #6 miteshmuley (AMC Alumnus)

Straight sales and COD offers would be present. I have heard rumours that the MID issues would be sorted. New advertisers will face more issues


02-17-2018 11:41 AM #7 robert-e (Member)

Not all the mids got shut down, there are new regulations and rules that advertisers will have to adhere to. Sophistication will be key, good support and good traffic will have to go hand in hand. Affiliate ROIs will have to be traded in for consistency and peace of mind. Whether its through less aggressive angles (fewer celebrity associations and lies) and more straight sales supplements will stick around.


02-17-2018 08:44 PM #8 mviola (Member)

nutra will always be around. as long as people want to get healthy, lose weight, and look better - eternity


02-17-2018 10:14 PM #9 thedudeabides (Moderator)

US nutra is never going away. Advertisers will just be forced to move towards straight sales. I wouldn't be surprised to see straightsales match or beat trial EPCs in the near future as the industry adapts. It's already happening.

No more retention rate bullshit and limited caps to deal with. I'm all for it.


02-18-2018 05:46 AM #10 Beligra (Member)

The circle of products. Back in the early 2000's it was all straight sale and everyone did just fine. Advertisers and traffic drivers will just have to adapt. As mentioned above, people will always want to lose weight, look younger, be stronger, be smarter and whatever else.


02-19-2018 08:43 AM #11 bobliu (Member)

I've actually noticed a huge increase in cloaked ads since the US election scandal. It's as if internal ad compliance teams switched modes and became more lenient and put all their efforts towards whatever was giving them bad press (political ads). Seems now the game has changed to finding the right guys with cap.

Here's a small sample of the 100s of cloaked ads running right now:
https://i.imgur.com/zhSOUbR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XHQmyWG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/R8Wl6mB.jpg

Some of the landers:

The Queen: https://i.imgur.com/NPdsDYR.png
Dr.OZ: https://i.imgur.com/mlILZ34.png
Musk: https://i.imgur.com/fJkvGMm.png
ED: https://i.imgur.com/gCCQxOW.png


02-22-2018 04:36 AM #12 poisonivy (Member)

This isn't the end of US nutra. It will always be around. It will just evolve totally differently than what it is now. For the very few best US mids which are left, they are already given to those pubs with proven quality. Most people now trying to switch to Asian mids instead as backup and people are also exploring other English speaking geos like AU CA UK NZ. Also, straight sales are making a killing now and COD has becoming more popular too. AM is changing and growing constantly. So its either you adapt, evolve, compete or die.


02-22-2018 05:16 AM #13 lasermedia (Member)

Just the circle, nutra trial will never go away.
Try COD instead


02-28-2018 08:25 PM #14 fourchars (Member)

I haven't done nutra rebills for years now but it's funny how times haven't changed, this could pretty much read like a thread from 2010.


03-02-2018 12:05 AM #15 12as26 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by fourchars View Post
I haven't done nutra rebills for years now but it's funny how times haven't changed, this could pretty much read like a thread from 2010.
This. MC issues in December 2009. Anyone should search the wickedfire archives to find many similar threads to this one. Look how far things have grown since then.

If you can't deal with instability once or twice a decade without thinking the sky is falling, well maybe this space isn't for you


03-02-2018 02:15 PM #16 fourchars (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by 12as26 View Post
This. MC issues in December 2009. Anyone should search the wickedfire archives to find many similar threads to this one. Look how far things have grown since then.

If you can't deal with instability once or twice a decade without thinking the sky is falling, well maybe this space isn't for you
Yep - FYI Cloaked rebill on the front page above the fold on Yahoo everyday still. I'd say you guys just don't have connections to get good cap right now or something.


03-02-2018 02:34 PM #17 allenarm (Member)

what is MID? and what's the main reason that now we're not seeing Nutra offers anymore on aff networks? i don't understand what happens?

please can anyone tell me in detail?


03-07-2018 09:22 AM #18 Advidi_com (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by allenarm View Post
what is MID? and what's the main reason that now we're not seeing Nutra offers anymore on aff networks? i don't understand what happens?

please can anyone tell me in detail?
Hey allenarm, MIDs are Merchant IDs, or merchant accounts - the special accounts banks give to merchants to process various types of payments. You need them to accept payments as an advertiser. If they're shut down, the funds on them are frozen.

We wrote a blog post that explains the issue in more detail, along with some of our suggested solutions: https://advidi.com/health-beauty-aff...ion-us-trials/

Hope it helps


03-07-2018 02:55 PM #19 vortex (Senior Moderator)

A very relevant thread with more insight can be found here:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ture-of-trials



Amy


03-07-2018 03:06 PM #20 affiliaxeguy (Member)

Free trial is having its worst days ever, but one loss is another one gain.

Straight sale offers are now booming.

Unlimited budget and no returns.

feel free to contact me for more details.


03-08-2018 03:12 PM #21 sellhealthg (Member)

It's been a matter of time until the days of the "14 day Free Trial" for "only $3.95" that rebills at $100+ dies a fiery death.

Good.

Yes, it was easy to make money filling that diet cap, especially around New Year's... But now marketers can make money without screwing over consumers.

Straight sale will end up making you more money, and you can sleep at night knowing that you're not screwing over a 60-year-old on a single income out of her last $100 in her checking account.


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