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02-12-2018 10:47 AM #1 ronen_k (Member)
Which Platform do you use for email marketing? which one is the best?

Hey guys,

so.... I have never done email marketing really..
would love to hear what platforms/ websites you use for it?

what would you recommend?

I have a data of about 15k (Italian market) for a test, running a crypto/forex offer.


02-13-2018 04:47 AM #2 erikgyepes (Moderator)

For my blog purposes I use Drip, check it out.


02-13-2018 08:24 AM #3 cbrughmans (Member)

Selecting the right email provider depends on how you build the list, the size of the list and what you want to use it for.
In general, if its your own list and if you have just 15K email data, definitely use mailchimp. its the best because it guarantees inbox delivery.


02-13-2018 06:36 PM #4 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Some email providers are quite anal about affiliate campaigns, like the above mentioned mailchimp for example : https://kb.mailchimp.com/accounts/co...s-in-mailchimp , so check their terms before working with them. I'm afraid Drip also isn't exactly affiliate friendly.

I'm using getresponse for my email list, seems to work pretty good, but I'm not really sending affiliate offers too...

The type of the list also pays a MAJOR role, as Christoph mentioned above, if it's just some scrapped list, it's essentially pure spamming and NONE of the mentioned providers will be happy to work with it. People that are doing large numbers in mailing usually have custom solutions, backed by bulletproof hosting solutions or use a more tolerant service like http://blacksadhorse.com/ for example.


02-14-2018 08:54 AM #5 gcxx (Senior Member)

sorry to jump into this thread
i am trying to find a email sending platform to email to our work from home email list,, I have been rejected by more than a couple of providers. any one know a company that is less restrictive ?
i have around 20k optin list collected from my blog site


02-14-2018 08:58 AM #6 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by gcxx View Post
sorry to jump into this thread
i am trying to find a email sending platform to email to our work from home email list,, I have been rejected by more than a couple of providers. any one know a company that is less restrictive ?
i have around 20k optin list collected from my blog site
Who rejected you so far and what reason did they give you?


02-14-2018 12:06 PM #7 gcxx (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Who rejected you so far and what reason did they give you?
hi matuloo
i was rejected by mailchimp , active campaign and a couple of others. they all said I cant mail work at home / bizop offers thru their platform


02-14-2018 02:29 PM #8 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by gcxx View Post
hi matuloo
i was rejected by mailchimp , active campaign and a couple of others. they all said I cant mail work at home / bizop offers thru their platform
Hm, it's true that this is one of the more regulated verticals ... did you try to reach out to getresponse for example?

Another tip, do you know some similar lists? Might be a good idea to join them and try to figure out who they use to send out emails


02-14-2018 04:31 PM #9 servandosilva (Member)

I use drip and convertkit but I don't send affiliate offers.
What about using EmailOctopus+Amazon SES?


06-05-2018 03:01 AM #10 quepao (Member)

i use digital ocean... there u setup MTA (postfix) than import it inside MailWizz. was using Interspire for years.. but even with latest adons (they are not cheap) the system does not work as expected. put 50 MTA's inside mailwizz and u got yourself a decent setup.. of course, you have to configure and create everything yourself.. but you can use digital ocean API to have everything done remotely via script. it's a 2nd step i know, but just so you know, no need to configure the SPF/DKIM and other things manually each time

next thing is than warming up the server.. for this, many methods exist.. but the one mentioned in the following post https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-Inbox-traffic might be a winner. than again, im not doing it this way.. mostly because i cant find the program mentioned here.. (which would go and check all accounts, mark emails as non spam and move them to inbox).. i do slow send.. and increase it by 10-30% daily.. send to openers/clickers at start.. the method in mentioned post is def. the way to go, but lmk if you get a hand on the mentioned "trustmaster" program.

if you need any help with setting up MTA on a digital ocean, i can write a full detailed instructions, so u can c/p the whole thing and do it properly. =)

peace


06-13-2018 02:34 PM #11 dhinesh444 (Member)

setup your own email server that is best choice


11-26-2018 10:01 AM #12 newyork66 (Member)

Any idea how I can get "trustmaster" software?


11-26-2018 12:26 PM #13 jregister (Member)

I’ve run affiliate offers with Aweber for several years with no issues.

But like others have said if you’re using a scrapper list that would be against their TOS.


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11-26-2018 02:09 PM #14 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by newyork66 View Post
Any idea how I can get "trustmaster" software?
Check this maybe : https://forum.bitcoin.com/services/t...te-t99839.html


11-28-2018 02:35 AM #15 leadcloak (Member)

If it's a opt-in list - go with mailchimp.

If it's a scrapped list - than it's pure spamming. Most of the companies will ban your accounts. Setup your own servers - warm up and use your own IPs. Still your IPs will be blacklisted very fast and mails will land directly in spam folder. So get a managed SMTP server and cut down most of server work.

This server is pretty good - [NSFW]



LeadCloak


11-28-2018 03:53 AM #16 ianternet (Senior Member)

I use drip for my blog - but for my other big stuff I want to find an email service that can do a ton of emails... I have over 1mill records - does anyone know of any media partners even that can monetize my leads?


11-28-2018 04:07 AM #17 oldschool (Member)

I have used almost everything - SMTP.com, Mailchimp, Sendgrid, Pure 360, Get Response, and another 20 ESP's. I have also run server setups on Interspire of course with add-ons, Mumara, Lyris etc....Running off a typical PMTA setup etc.....I have also done the most black of mailing setups possible.

In the end of the day, it comes down to what the data is, how you obtained it (is it fresh, opted in) frequency of mailing and vertical you are sending to that will ultimately decide which platform you use.

For example is you have 15,000 Italian emails and want to send to Crypto, and let's say the emails are not opted in, you may want to stick to your own setup, make sure the crypto brand or network knows it is European email traffic coming in, make sure nothing is in your name and absolute no fingerprint due to GDPR.

If the 15,000 emails you have are opted in and GDPR compliant, then try sending via a proper ESP, make sure your emails are fully compliant as well as have a water tight privacy policy, unsubscribe links etc....I would also try mailing at a proper frequency in order to keep your list alive and not burn it. A huge benefit here is you can start on a shared IP pool and if your results are good I would move to a dedicated set of IP's for sure thus creating an asset for yourself within the ESP.

So in the end of the day, you must assess what type of mailing you intend to do and then you can find what type of sending solution you need, if not you are going to waste time and money and not be able to create an effective email marketing channel.


11-28-2018 06:16 AM #18 jack_l (Veteran Member)

I've used Mailchimp, Market Hero, and Aweber. Here's my thoughts:

Mailchimp - super easy to use, fantastic interface in terms of smoothness, inexpensive, just really good - downsides they don't like affiliate marketing at all and I cannot figure out autoresponder series on it so save my life

Market Hero- great inboxing rates, run by good ol Mr Becker, fantastic funnel-building feature, on top of most industry stuff, calculates lifetime roi of lead, etc - downsides more expensive if you have small list, plus I could never get the drag and drop to work well, and could never get an image or video embed to go in correctly (very possible they've fixed that though and their support was always very helpful)

Aweber - could balance between the above- good drag and drop builder, not too hard to build autoresponder series, images/videos/etc all easy, good inboxing in my experience, and cool with affiliate marketing as far as I can tell, also quite affordable.


I also signed up for GetResponse once and it seemed fine but I signed up for Aweber at the same time and it was simpler so I stuck with it


My preference would be to give Market Hero my money as I like Alex Becker a lot, but until I get to 5k+ leads and until they get the drag and drop builder good I'm gonna stick with Aweber.


11-29-2018 01:51 PM #19 easyprofits (Senior Member)

What is the best mailing program for adult categories in your's opinion?

Unfortunately, many applications block this type of creations.


11-29-2018 05:44 PM #20 jack_l (Veteran Member)

That's a tough one- no idea on that... if its just a content issue but isn't something that will hurt network deliverability than Market Hero might be a possibility, but if its something where it negatively impacts the platform as a whole like spam-emailing does than you'd probably have to find an adult-only email provider. There must be some solution out there I would imagine.


11-29-2018 07:52 PM #21 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by easyprofits View Post
What is the best mailing program for adult categories in your's opinion?

Unfortunately, many applications block this type of creations.
Ynotmail is adult friendly.


11-29-2018 11:32 PM #22 russomar (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by oldschool View Post
I have used almost everything - SMTP.com, Mailchimp, Sendgrid, Pure 360, Get Response, and another 20 ESP's. I have also run server setups on Interspire of course with add-ons, Mumara, Lyris etc....Running off a typical PMTA setup etc.....I have also done the most black of mailing setups possible.

In the end of the day, it comes down to what the data is, how you obtained it (is it fresh, opted in) frequency of mailing and vertical you are sending to that will ultimately decide which platform you use.....
I remember Lyris, definitely old school....right when PMTA and Robomail just came out.

Definitely agree that depending on data and goal must match the infra/ESP.
Currently i have 3 setups with a mix of ESP api, PMTA based, and aweber ;-)


12-01-2018 06:32 AM #23 oldschool (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by russomar View Post
I remember Lyris, definitely old school....right when PMTA and Robomail just came out.

Definitely agree that depending on data and goal must match the infra/ESP.
Currently i have 3 setups with a mix of ESP api, PMTA based, and aweber ;-)
Great setup, definitely good stuff going off aweber, especially if you are on their IP’s (the good ones )

Nice to meet you btw!


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12-12-2018 09:52 AM #24 quepao (Member)

not for casino traffic.. anyone got a solution for casino related content... we had quite a good run with our own servers, but nowadays it seems only if you are really some trusted smtp server, you can afforst such sending.. any advice/solution more than welcome.


12-12-2018 02:45 PM #25 quepao (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ronen_k View Post
Hey guys,

so.... I have never done email marketing really..
would love to hear what platforms/ websites you use for it?

what would you recommend?

I have a data of about 15k (Italian market) for a test, running a crypto/forex offer.
ronen karkukli?


12-12-2018 05:19 PM #26 leadcloak (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by easyprofits View Post
What is the best mailing program for adult categories in your's opinion?

Unfortunately, many applications block this type of creations.
I'd recommend to get a custom SMTP server with warmed-up IPs.



LeadCloak


12-12-2018 06:11 PM #27 quepao (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by leadcloak View Post
I'd recommend to get a custom SMTP server with warmed-up IPs.



LeadCloak
do you provide some warm up service maybe? i mean better than ipoven.com (tested them, got worse results as from my new cold setup).. nowadays its all words and no action on that warmup area.

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