Circumventing Systems/November Policy Update (13)
So, as a lot of Adwords publishers are aware, they did a pretty big update in November that has been knocking off affiliates left and right. I believe that (at least) some of the update has actually not been announced in writing.
We typically run health offers with a whitehat and "compliant" bridge page set up and have had no issues this past year in doing some really heavy hitting on a wide variety of offers. We were doing $X,XXX to $XX,XXX per day with no problems. We had a rep and were working with the AGT team, which proved totally worthless in providing support (surprise, surprise).
I have noticed that a lot of people have been experiencing the "Circumventing Systems" issue with Adwords lately, even "whitehat" pubs. Building out a "blog" is no longer a workaround either.
It looks like Adwords has further defined what they mean by Circumventing Systems, as we have conducted several tests in our agency account. I've used the same billing, same IP, and tested a completely whitehat eCommerce style offer - zero issues, every single time. No Circumventing Systems, no billing issues, no linked account issues - nothing. Runs like a charm.
However, as soon as anything health-related, lead gen, or anything that looks like it could possibly be an affiliate offer is promoted, it's a 2-3 day manual review, which is pretty much a pre-ban in most cases. It looks like Google is enforcing the bridge page policy a lot more closely now and if anything even links to an affiliate offer, even if the bridge page is compliant, it's a ban. I've seen pubs dropping like flies over this new update.
Curious to know what everyones' thoughts are and how people are getting around this. If there are others experiencing the same problem who are searching for a fix or know of a fix, feel free to PM me. I'd be happy to exchange some knowledge and value if it's a working fix. If I can help it, I'd like to try to play the accounts game as little as possible, so preferably no straight up cloaking.
yeah ive seen similar issues. I mainly have been using eCommerce sites with nutra products as my safe sites but even those are getting canned for circumventing systems.
I believe Adwords has also become a lot stricter with the "Suspicious Payment" suspensions as I know a lot of Whitehat guys getting that even after spending 100k+ on their cards with no issues.
We saw the circumventing systems for the first few weeks after the update, then made some tweaks to our setup and haven't run into it much lately. However, we have run into the "suspicious billing" more often than before (20% of time, vs 5-10% before) and even getting that ban after running a campaign. Aside from that, it has been biz as usual with the big G.
This has happened to us with an account we were just starting to scale. We're concerned that Google think's we're cloaking (even though we're 100% not cloaking) because we're using
Has anyone else run into this? If so, is there a workaround, maybe another system like Voluum that doesn't set off alarm bells for Google?
Originally Posted by URdelver
EDIT: As a further update, it looks like Google is not answering phone calls from account/client numbers that are banned. An automated system now tells you to email them and that the account is banned.
All my acc's got banned as well. I'm on the same situation now. I need figure out how to make better bridgepages. Post some ideas here : https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...iate-New-ideas
Guys your safe sites are simply way to obvious for manual reviewers; I suggest you try other type of safe sites. Hit up bannerslanders on skype, they can help with safesites that are totally unique.
For example, we use safe sites which promote a car wash for some verticals... other safe sites are like consulting company, hair removal, etc -- weird little businesses that don't raise flags... talk to miro!!
^THIS.
the same crap that worked 2 years ago isnt gonna fly today lol
Originally Posted by driprevenue
Originally Posted by hvtopiwala
Most Traffic sites roll out new Guides and Policies by the end of each Year, so they can start the following year stronger.
It is always advisable to check Policies of Traffic sources by the end of the year and early New Year for updates.
We always get all these Policies of all Networks and inform our Affs ahead, especially STM members who are our publishers to help them ahead.
lol funny you bring this up right now
I would recommend checking your content in copyscape because along time ago Google used to suspend sites for having duplicate content back in the home-based business days when it was allowed.
Also I would look at the IP address from the computer you're logging into the google account. Depending on what you're using your IP address to be too similar to an ip address you previously used or an ip address someone else ha previously used to open a google account. You should be keeping track of all the IP address as you used to access all the Google accounts you have.
Also if all your IP address is or login locations are from the exact same area that could cause problems to.
As far as linking the other sites when you first have the account submitted and going take off all the links so you can eliminate that is a possibility. Let it get a few hundred impressions and some clicks just to make sure it's good.
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