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12-20-2017 09:08 AM #1 rionda (Member)
Get approval from facebook and then change url offer inside my tracker

Hello,

Do you think is useful this procedure in order to avoid that my ads get disapproved?


  1. I create a campaign within my tracker choosing as offer a very clean and safe domain
  2. I launch Facebook ads using my campaign link as url destination
  3. I wait for the approval of the ads and the arrival of some traffic
  4. I change the flow path inside my tracker by sending the visitors to an affiliate offer page.


I know that if it were so easy there would be no need for cloacking, but I would like to know if this procedure is completely useless or it makes me risk a little less.

Thank you


12-20-2017 09:24 AM #2 beardman (Member)

it is facebook man don't waste time , get a solid cloacker


12-20-2017 09:40 AM #3 mihalis09 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by rionda View Post
Hello,
Do you think is useful this procedure in order to avoid that my ads get disapproved?
  1. I create a campaign within my tracker choosing as offer a very clean and safe domain
  2. I launch Facebook ads using my campaign link as url destination
  3. I wait for the approval of the ads and the arrival of some traffic
  4. I change the flow path inside my tracker by sending the visitors to an affiliate offer page.

I know that if it were so easy there would be no need for cloacking, but I would like to know if this procedure is completely useless or it makes me risk a little less.
Thank you
That is exactly how you do it to pass by initial automatic disapprovals and get your ads some traction Whether you get manually reviewed later and need cloaker that is another story


12-20-2017 10:45 AM #4 rionda (Member)

Thanks, I'm running sweeps offers and I would like to avoid to use a cloaker..


12-20-2017 10:50 AM #5 mihalis09 (Member)

Yep, Im running sweeps too and all I use is tracker's rules


12-20-2017 12:36 PM #6 rionda (Member)

Sorry Mihalis... what do you mean for tracker's rules?


12-20-2017 01:02 PM #7 mihalis09 (Member)

If you run a Sweden IKEA offer for instance, then setup a rule in your tracker to send all traffic outside Sweden to a "clean" path. Also, by studying the ISPs on the analytics of the campaign as your offer is live with impressions, you may notice that certain IP blocks are being used by Facebook or other bots in that country if for instance you see a lot of visits from that IP block and no clicks from your landing page to destination.

So you can kindly have a very basic "cloaking" solution in place to deal with automatic FB ad disapprovals


12-20-2017 02:41 PM #8 rionda (Member)

Wow.. thanks a lot!!! You gave me a great help

Just today facebook was starting to disapprove ads that were working without problems.
First they approve of it, then after a few days they notice and disapprove of it.


12-20-2017 03:08 PM #9 rionda (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mihalis09 View Post
you may notice that certain IP blocks are being used by Facebook or other bots in that country if for instance you see a lot of visits from that IP block and no clicks from your landing page to destination
I don't use landing pages.. is there another way to do what you mean?

For example I can see that this IPs did a lot visits but they never converted...

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12-20-2017 03:25 PM #10 mihalis09 (Member)

Not using LPs and running sweeps on FB? that is looking for trouble

UNLESS you are able to iFrame the offer within a clean domain that you own, otherwise think about it: You are inputting destination links through your tracker in FBAds that have been used and most probably ABUSED by other guys who have run this offer. iFraming the offer though, if the advertiser allows, enables you to send visitors to a 100% clean destination domain that has not been run by others and still direct-link it, though not recommended unless that offer has a pretty good converting pre-lander, which is really rare.

Regarding the stats that you showed above. It depends. If the offer had like 5000 visits I would not be too worried about them. If however you just had 50 or 100 visits to the campaign, I'd be willing to bet the first two or three lines are bots and have to be excluded from visiting again the funnel through tracker rules.


12-20-2017 03:32 PM #11 rionda (Member)

I checked the offer link with Facebok Debugger but you're right.. but you are right. It's risky.

I decided to eliminate landing pages in order to raise conversion rates and avoid click loss..


12-21-2017 07:48 AM #12 desteny (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by rionda View Post
I decided to eliminate landing pages in order to raise conversion rates
In general, offer converts worser when doing this(NOT ALWAYS) and gets way more negative feedback. This is most likely reason your ads got disapproved. And yes, you can also use country rules with direct linking in Voluum. One of my team members pulled 35k euro spend over 6 months with one account using this Voluum ''cloaking'' method. Lately, after prefletch update, this is not suggested method to use anymore as facebook is using users phone to check ads/redirections inside facebook app.


12-21-2017 08:30 AM #13 rionda (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by desteny View Post
In general, offer converts worser when doing this(NOT ALWAYS) and gets way more negative feedback. This is most likely reason your ads got disapproved. And yes, you can also use country rules with direct linking in Voluum. One of my team members pulled 35k euro spend over 6 months with one account using this Voluum ''cloaking'' method. Lately, after prefletch update, this is not suggested method to use anymore as facebook is using users phone to check ads/redirections inside facebook app.
So do you think that this method does not work anymore? There are still ways to promote sweep offers on FAcebook in your opinion?


12-21-2017 08:31 AM #14 ervin (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by rionda View Post
Hello,

Do you think is useful this procedure in order to avoid that my ads get disapproved?


  1. I create a campaign within my tracker choosing as offer a very clean and safe domain
  2. I launch Facebook ads using my campaign link as url destination
  3. I wait for the approval of the ads and the arrival of some traffic
  4. I change the flow path inside my tracker by sending the visitors to an affiliate offer page.


I know that if it were so easy there would be no need for cloacking, but I would like to know if this procedure is completely useless or it makes me risk a little less.

Thank you
The problem is that there is generally a second round of manual reviews after the initial auto approvals. And it is very unlikely your setup will also pass the manual review .
Plus, If they notice you are doing this little trick you risk getting banned.

So I'd say if you are taking this approach then better go for a real cloaking solution from the start.


12-21-2017 08:44 AM #15 dhinesh444 (Member)

hello guys , even using cloaker sometime facebook banned my account. so you guys using normal facebook account or verified account ?


12-21-2017 08:53 AM #16 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by dhinesh444 View Post
hello guys , even using cloaker sometime facebook banned my account. so you guys using normal facebook account or verified account ?
Always verify the account with e-mail and phone. At the moment using a cloaker is THE reason to get banned faster. Not using a cloaker and working less agressive is a sustainable strategy. FB doing major steps now to detect cloakers, even some are worth shit at the moment and get an instant ban.


12-24-2017 02:04 PM #17 craig88 (Member)

Is Iframing an offer url on a clean domain risky? Can FB detect this straight away via the source code and if so do they dislike this?


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