Home > POP / PPV / Redirect > Follow-along Campaigns

First Shot At Mobile IQ on PPV (24)


01-26-2011 10:05 PM #1 jroes57 (Member)
First Shot At Mobile IQ on PPV

What I did in the beginning was target pretty much every flash game site out there and stuck with the top 2 volume targets
-addictinggames.com
-miniclip.com
After researching I found out that the sites I was targeting have a large female demographic along with my offer so they all matched up.

Now onto the landing page:
i used: newfreesurveys.com/iq2
That netted me 5% clickthrough on broad targets but we are still at the issue of no leads and I am really trying to make this work. Unfortunately I have hit a road block in this campaign and do not know where to turn.

Im thinking about targeting sport sites and car sites now to get that male demographic, anyone else tried this?

I appreciate all the help guys


01-27-2011 12:33 AM #2 Didadel (Member)

Hey, on http://newfreesurveys.com/iq/ I think it should be "Are you dumber THAN a turtle?" THAN not THEN...I might be wrong, but I thought I'd let you know.


01-27-2011 01:00 AM #3 stackman (Administrator)

I think it's "than" as well lol... but onto the more important stuff:

As I've mentioned in private msg's jroes I've promoted IQ many times on PPV. Let me explain a couple random points in no specific order

1. If your targeting general male demographic you will likely get better conversion rates if you don't use a landing page
2. If your going to make a landing page, then make it related to your targets.
3. Your current targets are very popular targets and are known for their low quality traffic
4. You need higher than 5% CTR to profit with this

With all that said, i recommend you target a niche, you then make a landing page for it and make sure the landing page relates to the niche.
For example: Target "kobe bryant" URLs, with a kobe bryant IQ landing page linking to an IQ offer!
Example 2: Target "mythbusters" URLs, with a mythbuster style landing page and link to an IQ offer!

Make your Landing page headlines CAPTIVATING!
I don't know if this will work, but i think it will profit better than the campaign you have above.


01-27-2011 01:26 AM #4 jroes57 (Member)

Stack,

Wouldn't the user get disappointed seeing its not an IQ quiz for one of those examples?
What are some examples of captivating headlines?

I decided to take my first niche apart and saw a trending topic "will ferrel" so I made a LP and grabbed related targets.

Lp is newfreesurveys.com/will

I'll post stats when I get them!

Sorry to be a pain, just learning as I go. Thanks for the help yet again


01-27-2011 09:11 PM #5 stackman (Administrator)

Just wills face makes me laugh

- I think this is a better idea, it's very targeted. Only lacking a lot of traffic, but if it works you can multiply this campaign with other celebs.

- The user doesn't really know if the IQ quiz is related to will or not, especially until the end of the quiz. The landing page makes them think it is related to Will.


01-27-2011 11:42 PM #6 MikroB (AMC Alumnus)

Great stuff jroes! lol Could also try different voice overs or get a Will audio clip(cracking up thinking about Ricky Bobby)..lol. You can outsource voice overs from sites like fiverr. Anyway good job.

stackman,
Do you recommend iframing these quiz offers with a relevant target header(text or image) and stuff? Whats your feeling on iframing offers?


01-28-2011 12:10 AM #7 jroes57 (Member)

First Day Stats:
66 Views
4 clickthroughs
4.55% CTR

Need to get that higher


01-28-2011 01:00 AM #8 stackman (Administrator)

You can iframe the offers. Sometimes it will automatically remove your iframe though, so test it out. I've never done it myself with IQ, but i can't see it doing any bad!

and jroes, you need more traffic too!
Find more targets.
Use 'Farrel' youtube videos, celeb sites, movie pages, photo pages, more, more more!


01-28-2011 01:21 AM #9 jroes57 (Member)

Hey Stack,

When you go with general celebrity sites like tmz.com? or hit up the subdomains that have no traffic but are related to Will Ferrel, cause thats my problem right now tons of URLs that are related to him but thats all the traffic I get


01-28-2011 05:46 AM #10 stackman (Administrator)

I wouldn't go with main targets like TMZ, it's to much non-related traffic.
Try targeting a more popular celeb, one who has a bigger online presence. Pretty much someone who's talked about a lot more/in the news a lot (this way you'll have a lot more traffic!)

Here's my 3 very strong recommendations:
1. Charlie Sheen!!!!
2. Jersey Shore cast is a really good one!
3. Kardashians (however you spell it)

I would target TMZ for a 'viral' campaign. Like during the week Ricky Gervais hosted the golden globes, or when Chris Brown beat up Rhianna. or even right now with Charlie Sheen... Then you'll see some good CTR!


01-28-2011 09:23 AM #11 jroes57 (Member)

Okay going off of stacks reccommendations!
Just made the LP for charlie sheen and going to target tmz.com!

Lets see how viral this gets and landing page is at http://www.newfreesurveys.com/charlie/index.php

Im keeping the same style as of right now cause I don't have the funds to split test it yet until I get a converting offer.

After running this LP targeting tmz.com

stats:
764 views
7 clicks
0.94 CTR
0 leads

Any idea on why this campaign generated the lowest CTR is it because of targeting tmz.com?


01-28-2011 09:29 PM #12 stackman (Administrator)

It's hard to say jroes..

TMZ is a massive URL. 1000's of different kind of people go to it every day. I guess not enough people were interested in Charlie Sheen.
Even though i would have assumed better results, it's just how it is. Not enough people were interested.

I would move on to a new idea to be honest. You've tested IQ quite a bit via PPV and your just not having it work. Might be worth trying a new angle/niche. I'll have post coming out in a day or so comparing Valentines Day & the Superbowl with lots of ideas ..if your looking for new ideas.


01-28-2011 11:41 PM #13 jroes57 (Member)

Stack,

You may be right but everyone says mobile is where its at for PPV. Just a tough nut to crack and I need to crack it, I am just running out of ideas. So i am just trying to figure out how to make it work


01-29-2011 12:16 AM #14 stackman (Administrator)

Absolutely, i'm always for sticking with it, just want to let you know there are more options. I can promise you there are other niches in PPV that make just as much and some that make a LOT more then mobile! Your starting to build experience though in Mobile so if you do stick with it you'll eventually find a winner.

When i ran mobile on PPV what i did was target 500+ massive URLs that were directed to males. Game sites, torrents, rock music, ufc, mma, boxing, mixtapes, rap forums, etc... unlimited stuff. I then direct linked the top IQ quiz and just threw out all the URLs in the red. Eventually started profiting nice. (Took about $2000 to start though) Most of the times i tried to target celebs it didn't work out to well, or if it did it was really small profit.


01-29-2011 12:19 AM #15 jroes57 (Member)

Yea thats the difference between us, you got the 2k to spend on blowing through those URLs :P Im a small affiliate working up there!
I thought direct linking with PPV is dead?


01-29-2011 04:00 AM #16 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

ride or die....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMwbwLxpUcU...lesson learned;-) and keep on pushing until you hit the sky


01-29-2011 06:08 AM #17 nick (Member)

I can sympathise with jroes on this. I'm the same - like a dog with a stick when I start on a campaign. I KNOW other people are making it work, so why can't I.

A few weeks ago, I spent around $300 on TrafficVance testing out a few 'Scholarships' offers. Only generated about $60 in revenue. I may pick it up again, but in the end I wasn't seeing things objectively so I decided to move on.

I'm also thinking I need to branch out onto Facebook and PoF, cos I've been focussed purely on PPV for the past few months and still not in profit. Just getting down to my last $70 in TV, and wondering if I should deposit another $500...


01-29-2011 06:27 AM #18 stackman (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by jroes57 View Post
Yea thats the difference between us, you got the 2k to spend on blowing through those URLs :P Im a small affiliate working up there!
I thought direct linking with PPV is dead?
1. Nothing is ever "dead". How could direct linking be dead across 1 billion URLs and 100,000+ niches, just doesn't make sense.
2. As for my 2k to spend, i was just showing you the way i profited from it. You can do the same thing with $100, just test less sites and toss the non profitable URLs. It's a process, not immediate profit.


Quote Originally Posted by nick View Post
I can sympathise with jroes on this. I'm the same - like a dog with a stick when I start on a campaign. I KNOW other people are making it work, so why can't I.

A few weeks ago, I spent around $300 on TrafficVance testing out a few 'Scholarships' offers. Only generated about $60 in revenue. I may pick it up again, but in the end I wasn't seeing things objectively so I decided to move on.

I'm also thinking I need to branch out onto Facebook and PoF, cos I've been focussed purely on PPV for the past few months and still not in profit. Just getting down to my last $70 in TV, and wondering if I should deposit another $500...
I understand the frustrations of not making it work. I've had huge downtime's myself after making many things work. I've been months DEEP in the red! There's no traffic source i can recommend you move to. You have to go with where you feel most comfortable. (Except new ones, brand new traffic sources are usually goldmines). Affiliate marketing is kind of like poker, you gotta keep on trucking. I'm releasing a guide tomorrow or Sunday which is strongly PPV related and currently profitable! Hopefully it'll show you some profit and get new ideas going.


01-29-2011 09:48 AM #19 netspace (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stackman View Post
I'm releasing a guide tomorrow or Sunday which is strongly PPV related and currently profitable!
Hopefully it'll show you some profit and get new ideas going.
Just off topic Jordan - when do you sleep >>> ?

Your effort to help makes the forum cost worth every cent.

Cheers

Murray.


01-29-2011 10:00 AM #20 Gamekeeper (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stackman View Post
1.
I understand the frustrations of not making it work. I've had huge downtime's myself after making many things work. I've been months DEEP in the red! There's no traffic source i can recommend you move to. You have to go with where you feel most comfortable. (Except new ones, brand new traffic sources are usually goldmines). Affiliate marketing is kind of like poker, you gotta keep on trucking. I'm releasing a guide tomorrow or Sunday which is strongly PPV related and currently profitable! Hopefully it'll show you some profit and get new ideas going.
Absolutely true that.

AS for months deep in the red, I'm very familiar with that situation: I haven't had a serious winner since sept last year when i was fortunate to hit on an offer i ran on FB that i could scale and it produced about $25k a month for a while. Since then lots of fails and break evens.

I could go on about how after 7 years at this stuff, it has become blindingly important to create a "real" business with a more stable income model rather than chasing offers all over the place that your AM says is "killing it". But that should be a post on its own. Its certainly something I am working at creating.


01-29-2011 05:17 PM #21 stackman (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by netspace View Post
Just off topic Jordan - when do you sleep >>> ?

Your effort to help makes the forum cost worth every cent.

Cheers

Murray.
Thanks man, I am trying
I sleep on Sunday


Quote Originally Posted by Gamekeeper View Post
Absolutely true that.

AS for months deep in the red, I'm very familiar with that situation: I haven't had a serious winner since sept last year when i was fortunate to hit on an offer i ran on FB that i could scale and it produced about $25k a month for a while. Since then lots of fails and break evens.

I could go on about how after 7 years at this stuff, it has become blindingly important to create a "real" business with a more stable income model rather than chasing offers all over the place that your AM says is "killing it". But that should be a post on its own. Its certainly something I am working at creating.
Yep, i feel a really good way to keep things stable is sticking with 1 niche. Even though i only do it partially myself, some of the most stable people i know stay completely in a single niche. It takes a lot of dedication though, and confidence to ignore all the trends of amazing offers blowing up while your plowing away at the same niche. That's why i can't do it completely, so i stray away often.


01-30-2011 03:17 AM #22 jroes57 (Member)

Update on Direct Linking
Stats on three targets
addictinggames.com 1438 views 1 lead 10.40 payout
miniclips.com 773 views 1 lead 10.40 payout
games.com 765 views 0 lead

All bids were at .01 cents
Should I test more urls and dump these?


01-30-2011 07:30 PM #23 stackman (Administrator)

I would dump those, and test more URLs. I've run this campaign before and I'm going to try to look for my profiting URLs for you .. they've got to be somewhere in my prosper.
Try to target big URLs, but a bit lesser known. The ones you've chosen have been run by every PPV affiliate and their mom.


01-31-2011 12:29 AM #24 jroes57 (Member)

Okay I will try more urls then


Ugh, PPV and IQ is frustrating me to no end, the new batch of URLs didnt make it down to my last 100 in traffic vance. haha

barbie.com
clubpenguin.com
webkinz/com
barbiegirls.com
neopets.com
habbo.com

Thats the latest batch I tested, all tested to 1000 views the 10 dollar payout and not one lead.
Hopefully I find a converting URL soon


Home > POP / PPV / Redirect > Follow-along Campaigns