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I am following Vortex’s newbie guide which I must say is very helpful. I am very new to the affiliate marketing industry. I use Voluum as my tracker, PropellerAds as my traffic source and I get my offers from Mobidea.

I have been up and started for a week and up to this date I have promoted 8 offers and have got 5 conversions. Some offers were picked by myself and some offers were recommended by the support team. I work with gaming and video offers in their teir 3 and 4 GEOs with payouts no greater than $1.50.

What would you guys recommended I do to get more conversions?

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Hello,

I'm doing exactly the same thing with the same tools. Thanks to Amy and her helpful guide.

But I have an issue, I've got 1 conversion on Mobidea but 0 on Voluum and PropellerAds ! I'm trying to figure out what wrong !!

I'm loosing money but I'm happy with that since it's the price for learning...

Just keep learning
Good luck

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That’s exactly what’s happening to me. Are your impressions on propeller and Voluum matching?

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Some suggestions:

-Test more offers! Use a low budget on each, and dump an offer if it doesn't convert well from the beginning. There are a million offers to test - no need to waste money testing any individual offer unless you have it on good authority that it's a great offer.

-Test landers! Although, for 1/2-click carrier billing offers, it would be more difficult to find landers that will do more harm than good. But it is still very possible! I talked a bit about that at the end of this post:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post331137

If you'd be interested in testing landers for gaming/video subscription offers, let me know, and I'll give you some pointers that will get you started.

-Test bids! Different bid levels will trigger traffic from different placements. Bidding low will get you traffic from not-as-good placements that don't convert as well, but you'd be paying less too. Bidding high will get you traffic from good placements that convert better/best, but you'd be paying more. So test a range of bids - 3, or 5, or more! Try to make them at least $1 CPM apart, or you'd be getting traffic from very similar placements (which would defeat the purpose of testing bids).

-Target geos/carriers that have good volume, so you can afford to cut more parts and STILL make good profits.

-Drill down into your stats to identify good and bad segments! Keep the good and cut the bad.

-Seek out less-competitive traffic sources! My tutorial uses propellerads because it's a big source with lots of volume. The flipside is that it's too well-known so has a lot of competition. It would be necessarily to seek out other traffic sources anyways if you want to scale profitable campaigns fast and hard later. Here are some tips on how to do that:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post317559

Also - if you start a follow-along and post stats there, we can help you optimize.

Best of luck and don't stop testing!


Amy

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This means your postback was not set up correctly.

Could you please go over the tutorial again? Pay particular attention to the following:

1)The global postback on Mobidea.

2)The offer link you put into Voluum.

As for Propellerads - you're not supposed to see conversions show up there, although you could (I did not cover that in my tutorial, because I'm paranoid about sending more info to traffic sources than I need to - I'm not accusing any traffic source of stealing campaigns, least of all a reputable one like PropellerAds, but it's just something I don't recommend doing for any/all traffic sources unless you're paying based on CPA instead of CPM for example).

If you or anyone else is still having trouble getting conversions to show up in Voluum, please show me 1)how you've set up global postback on Mobidea, and 2)the offer link you added to Voluum. And we'll do some troubleshooting.




Amy

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Hi Amy,

I am definitely interested in setting up landers for gaming/video campaigns

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Since these types of offers don't require a lot of preselling, short and to-the-point landers would be the way to go.

We're talking:

-Short and powerful headline.

-Attractive graphics.

-Maybe a couple of bullet points.

-Big and noticeable CTA.

Not all of the above elements need to be included. Try using a subset of those on individual landers.

For video subscription offers, try popular video "niches" such as funny videos or shocking videos or scary videos or fail videos....you get the idea. You can try including video "thumbnails" that you can make by putting a play button on an attractive graphic - it is CRUCIAL for the graphic to be intriguing. Examples: Person about to fall into the water below where a shark is waiting; 2 objects about to collide; person in a precarious position/situation. ANYTHING that would tempt the user to find out what's about to happen next. Putting red arrows and circles on the image may help as well.

You can try 1 such image, or a whole wall of such images. With all images linked to your outgoing tracker link of course, so that when they tapped on an image, they'd be directed to the offer page.

Headline examples: "Watch these funny videos!" "What happens next will shock you..." These are not the best examples, but you get what I mean: Use clickbait-y headlines. If you need inspiration, go browse article titles on viral content sites like upworthy - editors there write something like 30 titles before choosing one, for each article. They have tons of stats on previous headlines and so would know what kinds of titles got the best results.

Also pay attention to the congruence between your lander and the offer. If the offer page says "funny videos", you may not want to use scary videos on your lander (although you can try - I don't know what the results would be). But if the offer itself is generic, then you can use any niche on your lander (you can split-test different niches).

For gaming offers, the graphic again is essential. You want it to have the effect of "wow this looks like fun I wanna try it" on visitors. Do a search on the game or a similar game (or another game in the same genre) and find HD quality graphics that look attractive (NOTE: Please be aware that using graphics from games other than the offer you're promoting, may get you into legal hotwater - please proceed with caution - you've been warned.) Alternatively, you can ask your AM whether they could get some images from the advertiser for that offer.

And don't just test 1 lander. Create different ones and split-test them. It may take quite some testing to be able to find a lander that will do more harm than good, but if you do find one, you'll have an edge over the vast majority of your competition that is direct-linking to the offers.

IMPORTANT: To minimize test budget for these landers, find an offer that converts well on its own first, and use that to test landers. Without a proven offer with a proven track record, you can't really know how effective your landers are (i.e. if you don't get conversions it may not be the landers - it may just be that the offer sucks).

Hope I've given you enough to help you get started! And please feel free to bounce around additional ideas.



Amy

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Thank you Amy for your replay.

All my offer are currently out of the total budget. I have to launch another campaign to fix the problem ?

1)The global postback on Mobidea.
First, I've put the subdmain of the offer URL (I have a custom domain since it's recommended) --> 1 conversion on Mobidea, 0 on voluum
Second, I've put the entire custom domain --> 1 conversion on Mobidea, 0 on voluum

2)The offer link you put into Voluum.
http://www.rotationurls.com/offer/130580|14331?data1={campaign.id}&data2={trafficsou rce.id}&tag={clickid}&website={subID}&placement={s ub_subID}

The offer that I get from Mobidea after remplacing TRACK1 and TRACK2



I'll test other offers and see what will happen.
1. pick some offer for Mobidea Oppotunities;
2. Ask the AM for good offers.


Thank you for your help.

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Hi!

This is because of wrong postback settings - Mobidea is not sending the information about the conversion to Voluum. If you used your custom domain in Voluum you should set it as a custom postback on Mobidea. So in Global Postback settings choose "Custom" and set the whole postback link you have in voluume. Change the tokens accordingly, don't forget that for click id we are using &tag.

Then it should work

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Thank you Mobidea for your help, btw you have an amazing customer support

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Hi Amy thank you for reply - great information !

Can you point me in a direction of where I can find someone that can fix landers with errors after being ripped ?

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