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German Penis enlargement (own Product) - My Way (21)

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Hey everyone, I will now start my Follow Along
I created my own digital Product about Penis enlargement in german.
The site is: http://www.penisvergroessern.info/

Right now I'm buying Traffic from Trafficjunky and Trafficstar. I'm buying my ads at NTV A on all sites and only Desktop Traffic.

The last 14 days I spended 511,81$ and made 277,51$ = -234,3$

At moment I try to buy the traffic at not too high cost, because my ROI is -50% and if my CPM is higher my ROI will be even worse.

I can spend ca 1000$ per month right now.

I'm splittesting my SalesPage right now and optimized already alot in the last 2 month. But there is alot to test and each splittest take much time because I need alot of traffic.

Will be happy for each input

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Hey Johann,
I looked at your site: http://www.penisvergroessern.info/
and it looks so incomplete for attracting visitors. I'm a Blogger and I know a few more graphics and a video can surely help you out to get the conversion on your page.

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Hi Johann,

We are more focused on mobile adult, so it's not easy to say what exactly goes wrong with your desktop campaign, but I will try to help.. Have you tried to pay more for your traffic? Any bidding tests?
And another thing - did you try smaller websites? In some cases those are more profitable, as you'd buy cheaper traffic with a good CR. Although you might be doing it right for such GEO...

Actually, I'm curious to see what @matuloo would say about it

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Ok, since you created this thread, let's keep the future communication in here.

I will repost my questions from the first thread, since you didn't answer there yet.

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Hi Johann, congrats on launching your new offer! We sell a lot of this sort of traffic but primarily in english speaking geos (not very much international geos). You may want to look at trying some targeted advertising via member's areas of dating/seduction sites. That might give you a much more targeted audience for your ME offer. :-)

If we can be of assistance please don't hesitate to reach out! Best of luck!

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Hey everyone, thanks for all the answers

Hey syabuzar, right now I'm splittesting alot and ur right, I will also try a version with more graphics or perhaps also a video sales letter

Hey, thx for ur answer. I already tested somewhat with the bids, and yes if I pay more I get more traffic but the problem is I can't afford it because my funnel is too bad right now. Using smaller sites seem truely work better. I think I need to buy more traffic from smaller sites and when my funnel is running better I can buy more expensive traffic.

Hey Matuloo, until now I just tested one salesletter. I just tested different prices, headlines and testimonials.
I tested alot of banners right now I'm only using 2 different banners:

Banner one has the best CTR until now. Until now I tested ca 40 Banners.

Right now I'm using only Desktop traffic, spot NTV A, actually I'm using a daily budget of 150$ on trafficjunky but, because of my low CPM I'm just spending ca 30$ daily.

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Raising the CPM is often the answer when in need of better quality traffic, even though, TJ is one of the sources where even low bids bring in decent quality traffic ... I would still test it. TJ also offers keyword targeting, might be worth a try ...

I would say that you need to work on the sales letter, it looks pretty boring with too much text, I would certainly test something more dynamic and shorter. Have you done some spying on your competition? Shouldn't be a problem to produce something similar and test it.

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Hi there johann! I remember you from the other thread.

As I've suggested before - DO closely examine your best competitors' sales pages, and just mimic what they're doing. There's no need to completely reinvent the wheel. If you're already doing >-50% ROI using the current salesletter - which if you wouldn't mind me saying, is really not the best - then it should not be hard at all to push that into green after adding some improvements. Especially with matuloo giving you pointers on banners also.

I would start by examining these 2 sales pages:

http://www.penilesecrets.com

http://pebible.com/

I just spent a quick couple minutes browsing through them, and jotted down some elements that I feel would help sales. Your current sales letter already contains the following:

-list of benefits

-scientific "blurb"

-statistics

-refund policy (although you could make that more obvious - see the big "60 day money back guarantee" seal on the pebible sales letter?)


And here's a list of elements your current sales page doesn't have, that you can consider adding:

-A list of chapter headings in your ebook so people will know exactly what they'll be getting

-User testimonials

-Bonuses (most popular clickbank products have long lists of bonuses - you can easily scrape some together; a table for recording length and girth every day, PLR/MRR ebooks on penis enlargement or related topics such as how to improve performance in the bedroom or how to improve health in order to last longer in bed,

-Explanation of why some of the other penis enlargement products don't work (you've mentioned it in your salesletter, but didn't explain why)

-Consider splitting up the sales page into multiple pages like PenileSecrets has done - this way people aren't overwhelmed by the amount of text, plus you can more easily track which page most of your visitors are leaving from, and change or cut that page to retain them. (Even for single-page salesletters you should use a heatmap service to achieve the same.)

-Consider adding a pop-up that will appear when the customer is trying to leave the page, that offers a discount on the product, and possibly an additional bonus item. Many clickbank products are using this tactic with success.


There you have it! Start with these, get a profitable ROI going, then get some affiliates - after that, you can split-test lander variations for free with all the traffic your affiliates will be sending. You can be transparent about this, and offer several lander versions for affiliates to choose from. Then use this method to find the winner:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Banners-Part-1

Best of luck with your product! And do keep us posted on results!



Amy

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Hey,
last times my "normal" Job was a little bit stress, so I had not much time

Hey Amy thx for ur good advise, I'm already creating a completly new salesletter and using http://www.penilesecrets.com as a inspiration

Hey Matuloo, thx again for ur good advise and like u said it before I need to splittest my salesletter, I will now splittest a couple of complet different salesletter using other offer as inspiration and than optimizing the best one.

Will keep this thread updated

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Fast Update: Actually its christmas and I'm working in the week on my "normal" job and week ends on christmas markets, so I'm working all time

BUT I 'm working on the new sales page here a little screenshot

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Looking forward to the final outcome, based on the screenshot, it's already looking way more appealing than the first one!

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What? So Penis Enlargement is not a 'Normal Job'?

I am not making money right now, and I am still pretty new. But even I can tell by your sales pages that that is a big part of the problem. The fact that you are at -50% to me is actually really encouraging, because to me your current sales page is so bad that I am surprised you are getting conversions.

your new screen shot looks so much better, and that is just the start. I think you can take that even much further. My recommendation would be to invest serious time and money into your sales page, and dial it in as much as you possibly can. Look for competitors pages - i would start in your niche, but then also look at other niches. Look at the techniques used by the super competitive niches like Nutra. They must have their page optimized to the % in order to make money. the techniques are all the same for the most part. The most important thing you can do is really dial in your offer to be as sharp and as killer as possible when it comes to conversion rate. If you can do that and have something where you can prove it has a good conversion % - Then i think you will find your adspend will work much better. Once you prove that you can make money with your advertising, I would consider publishing your offer for other affiliates to run with some networks.

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Thx for ur input Its actually what I'm doing I look alot around what competitors and also what Nutra are doing. And I'm copy pasting alot

Will keep this Thread updated.

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Like matuloo, I think your sales page is already looking a lot better!

I feel that you're ready to start split-testing. Start by split-testing the old against the new landers. I feel that your new lander may have a chance of turning a profit already. And even if it doesn't, the increase in ROI should motivate you to continue improving the lander.

The new one should win out. After that, make a few variations of the new lander: Different headlines (this would be the first thing I'd test!); different images; longer/shorter copy; with more/fewer sections; with sections in different orders...

Then test the new variations with the original new lander and see which one wins.

This post will tell you how to cut landers to identify the winner:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Banners-Part-1

Please note: Don't add new landers to a split-test before you've cut down to one winner. If more than one landers are performing similarly (i.e. keep going "head-to-head"), just pick one of them as the winner and start another round of split-test.

Best of luck!




Amy

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Hey everyone, Happy new Year

And for the new Year I just launched my new Landing-Page (http://www.penisvergroessern.info/)
It taked me some time do setup the new page, but now its done.
Now I'm waiting first results

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Nice! Looking forward to seeing how it performs. I haven't run anything in this vertical, but some more 'mainstream' nutra -- I really suggest looking at some of the more aggressive nutra products for further split test inspiration.

Will you be driving traffic to that homepage, or one of the sub-pages? If you're already thinking about further split tests, I have a feeling you could do with some more CTAs, and having one above the fold on every page. I think you should make it really easy for the customer to purchase your product on every page. "Sticky" banners are also commonly used for this. I notice right now the most appealing button to click to purchase is only on the "get started" page, and at the very bottom, then on the other pages, "get started" does not stand out at all -- it blends in, in a dull grey with the rest of the links.

Just my two cents!

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Hey Chris,

I already heard alot about nutra, but to be honest I don't know realy what is meant my nutra, can u give me some example

Right now I drive the traffic to the homepage. Will see how it works.

How do u mean it, do u mean a sort of buy-here banner on top of each sub-page?

Yeah I need to check alot. I started yesterday to send traffic to the homepage, will check how got this will work.

For now I made 2 sales, this bring me 84$, I spended 55$ for the traffic. But its too early to say something, it can be that the next days I don't make any sales, can be that I will make sales like hell (I hope for second).

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Hey everyone,
just made some changes. Changed the Buttons and the price.
I now sell it as a 4,99€ 60 days trial, afterwards annual abo for 27€.
Will give u some Updates soon

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Conversions on porn sites usually suck for offers that require payment. I would suggest trying a little bit of mainstream networks. You can try Mgid, AdNow and Plista (since German). We see penis enlargement offers all the time on these networks.

Of course, you will not be allowed to use any genitalia images in the creatives or landing pages. But, you can get away with pretty crazy images (especially on AdNow) like this



If you need some ideas about landing pages, PM me.

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Hey, thx for ur input. Perhaps ur right and I should switch the traffic source, its right that right now I'm not converting so well, but also be due on my landingpages. I'm testing all time and it becomes always a little bit better

The ads looks very cool, to be honest I have some issues to get good ideas for my ads, I tested alot but at moment I have not so much ideas anymore

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Sorry for missing your rseponse earlier. Well it sounds like the new LP already started off performing quite nicely!

By nutra, here are a few examples: these aren't penis enlargement, they're actually testosterone supplements (just the first couple 'mens' supplement products I found looking at adplexity native), but its still a good example of the tactics these advertisers are using from a website
perspective to increase CR:

https://ssl.ultramuscleboost.com/j/UMCB4
https://testoultra.com/#/en/main/GB

What I mean about "more CTAs" you will see perfectly in each of these, with all the "Rush my Order" buttons on the first, and "Try TestoUltra" buttons on the second.

These above don't generally have traffic run directly to them, rather they're sold behind "advertorial type" landers that look like blog posts with stories of someone who had fantastic results using the product, so knowing that, you will likely have to find some balance to do the preselling mixed in with the hard sell of course. Obviously your product is a little different anyway, but I imagine it couldn't hurt to spy around on some other offers in similar verticals to help boost your conversion rate!

If you want to see some male enhancement specifically, just spy around adplexity adult and look at some funnels to find the offers. I'm sure you will find plenty

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