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Do you ever not ask for a paybump? (9)


08-26-2017 11:04 PM #1 jabong82 (Member)
Do you ever not ask for a paybump?

I know as affiliate marketers we always should strive to get the highest paybump, but is there ever really a good reason not to ask for one?

For example right now Im running an Adult WEB SOI offer in a small geo that has an ROI of about 50-70% already that requires very little work.

I know the traffic I am sending is good (Ive been on this offer for a couple of months now), and profits are consistent.

I'm still on the base payout, but at this point I feel like my ROI is good already and I'd rather just stay on the offer as long as possible.

My concern is that if I ask for a bump I'd probably get one, but then I'd also feel I'd be more prone to a pause.

So my question is am I wrong in thinking that asking for a paybump may not be in my best interest here?

For me I'd rather just ride this offer as long as possible.


08-26-2017 11:32 PM #2 fb100k (Member)

I'd ask if I knew that I could scale since that's what I'm typically asked when I request a bump. They don't mind reducing their % if the overall gross increases. It also helps if you run other offers from the same network.


08-27-2017 12:46 AM #3 jabong82 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by fb100k View Post
I'd ask if I knew that I could scale since that's what I'm typically asked when I request a bump. They don't mind reducing their % if the overall gross increases. It also helps if you run other offers from the same network.
I cant really scale too much more due to the size of the geo.

I would love to scale this much further given the ROI, but from what i've seen theres not a whole lot of volume available lol


08-27-2017 02:45 AM #4 webdev (Member)

before I run anything I ask if they have room...usually they do but on occasion they may say "no room man, let's see the quality and then we can ask". Usually I expect some raise at initial from the network..I think in ur case there is a chance the network have some room but if your already sitting at 70% roi and don't have any plans to scale or test more than I would just stay under the radar and keep running. For all we know the quality could be crap and the adv just hasn't picked it up cuz the volume is low or something. If you still would like to get a raise I would first ask if the network has room before going to the adv just to be safe. My 2 cents.


08-27-2017 06:13 AM #5 manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

Asking for a pay-bump is a double edged sword.

You should ask if there is room for it, and generally it's when it can help you deliver higher volume - this is so that the net revenue of the affiliate network also increases.

There are some cases in which you ask for a pay-bump and you get it no questions asked, but then you get scrubbed a proportionate, or sometimes higher, amount of leads for your CVR drops enough that the pay bump doesn't help.


08-27-2017 08:38 AM #6 jabong82 (Member)

Thanks for the input guys.

I guess it's all about finding the right balance between profitability and longevity.

I know common knowledge always says to try to get the highest payouts possible, but I think that definitely assumes that you wont get scrubbed or paused sooner.


08-27-2017 10:09 AM #7 vortex (Senior Moderator)

There are some cases in which you ask for a pay-bump and you get it no questions asked, but then you get scrubbed a proportionate, or sometimes higher, amount of leads for your CVR drops enough that the pay bump doesn't help.
That would be my only concern as well.

I remember when I was a newbie, there was a network I was running with, that would always promise me the next pay bump if I could just increase my lead volume to x/day.

So I would strive to reach that next milestone - even at the expense of a lower ROI - because calculations told me I'd be making more profits after the pay bump.

What I couldn't figure out, was why my CR would decrease after every bump.

It took quite a few bumps before I realized what was going on.



Amy


08-28-2017 04:41 AM #8 erikgyepes (Moderator)

I got similar experiences as above - after asking for a bump always something "strange" happened.

I not say it's always like this, but if you are happy with the results already do not bother with "paybumps".


08-28-2017 11:46 AM #9 caurmen (Administrator)

Pay bumps also vary vertical to vertical. In some verticals - like dating - advertisers will often bump traffic that converts well, but in other verticals, there's much less of a margin for that sort of payout increase, or advertisers are just less willing to do it.


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