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My journey to the first $1,000 profit with landers (14)

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Hi,
So after few years of running profitable campaigns directly without landers I've just joined STM, read a lot and decide to test my first campaign with landers!

I'll be happy to get some feedback as I am already used to do it in one way and not sure it's the best way so here to learn.

I got recommendation from my affiliate manager for some of their best campaigns right now and after compering with the data from Adplexity decided to focus on specific AV campaign in Turkey.

I set up an S3 bucket & Route 53 As DNS on AWS as suggested and set also CloudFront with programer I hired.
Also choose 4 landers from Adplexity and ripped them and will try all and also try to run it direct without landers.

I will try each one of the lander and also direct link to see which perform best.

I decided to focus on Zeropark, Propeller ADs & Popads for the beginning and focus on Android.

Popads - targeting Top 40% of website, prime spot only (in order to eliminate options of bots - let me know if you think it's wrote idea).
Zeropark - 2 pop campaigns (one with high bid for premium traffic)
PropellerAds

$10 Daily cap for each campaign (Payout is $1.5)

PropellerAds reject my campaign with this reason "Your creatives should not contain the words like “your sofware is outdated”, “your device is infected”, “viruses found” etc. No misleading ads, providing false info to the user https://propellerads.com/terms/#adv-9
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Would glad to here how this can be solved... I send all non TR And traffic to other normal offer but it didn't help.

Waiting for approval from the other networks and keep you updated.

I have a lot of experience with running campaign but nothing with landers so please assist

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Welcome to STM!

It's not easy to run AV without using aggressive (misleading) angles. And as you've found out, some traffic networks don't allow aggressive angles (e.g. PropellerAds). Many people that are running AV, are cloaking. It's not IMPOSSIBLE to run AV without cloaking - as long as you're happy with the restricted traffic volumes from the few sources that do allow aggressive.

Check the landers you're using in your ZP camps - have you replaced the outgoing links with the Voluum click url?

Copy the Voluum campaign url and paste it into your browser, then click through your lander - is the click registering in Voluum?


Good call. I would have stopped earlier.

ZP has good volume, but because it's brokering from many other networks, the quality is mixed. So when running on ZP, you really need to fork up the investment necessary to cut targets and sources.

Main thing to check is whether your lander+offer can get enough targets profitable for it to be worth your while in continuing to run the camp. Once you've confirmed that there's enough profits, you can run further to cut unprofitable targets etc. Whereas if you're finding that most of your targets are in loss, then there wouldn't be much point in investing on cutting further.

And of course you'll need to collect enough stats to see how the major traffic segments are performing, and whether there are any bad-converters you can cut - stuff like OSs, Carriers, Browsers etc.

A cheaper approach would be to test your offers and landers on popads, and then scale promising camps to ZP and invest in the cutting.

So yeah - 4.5 times payout without conversions may be too early to decide whether or not to ditch the camp, when running on ZP.


Here's how to compare landers and know when to cut which:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Banners-Part-1

You can treat your direct-linking stats as just another lander.


I wouldn't try to run AV on propellerads without cloaking - and as a moderator I can't openly discuss this practice. You can do a search on the forum to find more information.

And don't keep resubmitting aggressive landers to propeller - you could get your account banned.


Please do!



Amy

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I got no clicks from zeropark too!
I am not sure if my landers suck that much or I've AWS setup incorrectly.
I have clicked through the campaign URL and everything goes through the funnel. Weird.

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I can't understand also why
Using the same landers for all traffic source.
I just messaged Voluum's support - hope they'll have smart answer

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That is strange indeed. Please report back if you find out the reason?



Amy

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Having your landers not receiving click from any traffic source is a sign that there is something with your landing page itself or tracking links.

When you said you tested the campaign flow and everything looked fine, did you make sure of testing the flow after clearing browser cache?

Also, most important did you clear out every redirect, analytics and js codes that can redirect your traffic to another landing page?

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The landers received clicks from some traffic sources.
I have it with 6 different landers that I ripped from different places.
In Popads I can see the clicks. the problem is specific with Zeropark & Adcash
Is there a chance that there is redicrect that affect only in some traffic sources?

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In PopAds you mentioned above that you limited your traffic to only Top 40% of websites. I wouldn't go for that limit. When testing traffic source's CTR you might want to have options open and discover profitable spots even when the number of impressions is high and CTR is lower compared to the others. Split the camp into two different bid camps and you might find profitable spots there as well.

As for ZP and Adcash they have huge traffic inventory as well as a lot of pubs to kill. Start with low bod first and then increase progressively in order to avoid paying for shitty traffic the price of a good one.

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Could you show us the source code of one of your landers? Let's start from there.



Amy

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Sure
This is one of the landers - http://www.androidtrooper.com/2c8337...c6b552e0fc938/
When I check it I see the clicks, when I use it on popads also see the clicks but on Zeropark & Adcash no

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Lander looks OK.

Next, please try the following and report back:

1)Click on the little gear icon in Voluum to go to settings. Click on the "Domains" tab, click on "Verify DNS Settings" of your main domain, and make sure you see that "Domain setup is OK". If this is not the case, fix it until you get the domain setup is OK message, and run traffic to your ZP camp to see if it fixed it. If you do get the OK message, proceed with the next step below.

2)Are you using a CDN? If so, try to NOT use your CDN for now, and run your ZP camp again. This is to rule out that it's a CDN issue. You only need maybe 500 impressions. If this doesn't solve it, proceed to the next step below.

3)Go to Voluum, and your lander settings for the lander above, and add the "index.html" to the end of your lander url, i.e. "http://www.androidtrooper.com/2c833724cbb9e533fb9c6b552e0fc938/index.html". Then, in your Voluum campaign settings for the ZP camp, choose JUST this lander and no other. Again, run 500 impressions to see if you get clicks. (I'm not a technical person - don't know if specifying index.html would make a difference - it's just that I've always specified it instead of assuming every browser will look for it by default.)

4)Can you please show screenshots of a)your Voluum traffic source settings for ZP, b)your voluum settings for your lander above, c)your voluum campaign settings, and d)your voluum click url (little gear icon / voluum settings > Setup tab > Click url field).

Actually - let's start by providing the screenshots in 4). Let me see if I could verify your settings first before doing steps 1) to 3).

I've never seen such a strange problem before. I have a couple other "last resort" ideas, but let's start with these.




Amy

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I've checked all your screenshots - and everything looks correct. This is baffling!

Try running the camp without a CDN and let me know if you're still experiencing this issue.




Amy

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Thanks for your help Amy!

I will
First I am checking another thing.
Just received a weird answer from Zeropark
"Could you please check if the domain used in the campaign URL, which you placed on the Zeropark end is the same as the domain used in the clickURL placed on the lander? It has to match to make the redirections work."

Now my campaign URL is the domain that Voluum assigned to me and the landing page is in a domain I bought. It's not and cannot be the same domain.
I replied with it and I'll update here on their respond.

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Yikes! Yup I bet that's the issue there!

But how could your click URL have a different domain from your campaign URL?

The only thing I could think of, is maybe you changed your main Voluum domain after you either 1)generated the camp url and pasted it into a ZP camp, or 2)placed the voluum click URL onto your landers.

Could you please do 2 things:

1)Double-check your click URL in Voluum, and make sure it's the same click url you have on your landers.

2)Double-check your Voluum campaign url, and compare it to the the destination url in your ZP campaign.

Let's hope one of them has a discrepancy!

(Also - did you actually "Verify the DNS" and get the "Domain Setup is OK" message?)




Amy

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