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Can Facebook detect which computer (31)

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Hi guys

I'd like to understand if Facebook can detect your computer somehow? I'd like to know when I change the internet connection (so new IP) + create a new browser and a new Facebook account - will they be able to somehow tell if it is connected to the other accounts on the same computer?

Thanks!
Mike

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Facebook has so much data that he will soon know the length of your penis.

But seriously - you are waiting for an amazing and fascinating world of creating advertising cabinets in facebook full of pain and suffering. You can create an account several times in a new browser on the main computer. But this resource is exhausted. Then use the virtual machine. And alternate them.

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You will probably still have the same display resolution and other parameters and footprints will remain also same.
Best bet would be to have separate OS if you want to really pretend you are someone else.
I'm not FB pro though, so let's wait until some chime in.

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It can detect your MAC address even if you change the IP and other parameters. Best thing to do is buy a new SIM card and use it to avoid such problems.

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Thanks for the answers guys. That's what I wanted to know if they can detect the MAC address. Even though buying a new SIM card you have to somehow bring the account to a computer - and there is the issue.

How do you all maintain several accounts with one computer?

Cheers

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but mac address is associated to a device, what SIM card has to do with it?

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I mean, use a mobile throw away connection using a free sim card.

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Not a pro in the FB account game, but there's tools letting you hack your MAC address if anybody faces that solution. No guarantee though if it holds up for facebook.

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facebook collects the fingerprint (all versions java, flash, permanent cookies, IP, Mac, fonts, series of microphone, audio codecs, internet bridge and etc) basically if you want to hide your machine need to change all things, it's very difficult. some guys use virtual machines with a specific chromium broweser which does not send some information. But rules are changed and need to tune your scheme all the time.
Look in google "fingerprint"

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If any of you saying MAC can be detected, can provide any proof of that, I'll be your taker (since MAC isn't broadcasted in any way)

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ActiveX


you can check your machine via https://amiunique.org/ https://fpcentral.irisa.fr/fp

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So that comes down to use a new machine for every account or use Chromium profiles instead of Chrome profiles because Chrome will give more info than Chromium?

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Facebook is not as aggressive as Google, but time is going, facebook bans more often. of cause imitation new device is cheaper than buy&sell machines every time, but when I say chromium, i mean specific version (rare chrome browsers)

there are methods to uniq your fingerprint, links I wrote here

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Exactly, MAC is not traceable.

How is that related to what @wiifmdude wrote? MAC address is internal and is not passed anywhere you go.

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https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF...ddress+activeX

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Did you try to get into the results of your google? Go to StackOverflow first result and actually read the answer. I will quote it for the lazy heads here

"There is probably no better way, since ActiveX will only work on Windows (and IE only), and there is no such API to get MAC address in any standard HTML or JavaScript. I don't know if Flash can be useful for this, but I doubt that."

Not sure if you can actually get it with some Java or not but I remember googling this and had never seen a working method to do it for Chrome or especially Apple PCs.

EDIT: Another quote:
"You might be able to do this using a java applet, but HTML and web browser policies are very carefully designed to prevent you from doing something like this, as it would be considered a major security risk. A Mac address is certainly not possible to grab without either an activex control (which if discovered would probably get banned for providing such personal information to javascript, unless you had really carefully planned security) or at the very least a java applet that would require the user to grant it elevated privileges."

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you asked how detect mac, i showed you. of course it's not for all systems, but it's possible

PS you think FB dont have enough data about all internet users ?)

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I think that your comment is quite incorrect. As described in the link you shared - It's a serious security breach and can only work with ActiveX that only applies to Internet Explorer. It MIGHT also work with Java Applet but there are no evidence of someone actually doing it.
The thing here is that everything is basically possible but if it's something illegal or something that risks Facebook users, you really think they would do that?
It's like saying they are willing to hack your bank account to see who you're getting payments from to spot if you're an affiliate or not. This is ridiculous mate.
They have a lot of information about you which includes information about your OS, IP, Connections and more but MAC address is not one of them based on what I've heard from 5-digits a day marketers (I'm running 4-digits/day so I can say that based on my own experience too).
Anyway, I don't claim to be a tech pro, just spilling my thoughts and opinions based on the research I've done on this.

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Ok. You are right, mac is needed very rare, but i think facebook knows more personal details than mac. Perhaps, we are going to other side of our discuss

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If Facebook collected all the information discussed on this thread it would be in serious trouble for breaching privacy laws - they can't collect your MAC address - in some cases there may be ways to exploit plugins to expose it but that's not something Facebook is going to do - they're being watched very carefully by regulatory bodies. For anyone really interested in the subject here are some nice papers on the subject:
https://securehomes.esat.kuleuven.be...fb_plugins.pdf
https://www.dataprotection.ie/docume...ort/report.pdf

So to keep this short, using a fresh IP and browser profile is enough if you want to start over on Facebook. Most people fail at the step of linking payment methods / tracking domains / adding to their mobile or using another connection/profile linked with your old account.

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Understand that FB can't scrap the MAC address of the computer. Then how about Google? Say someone with google chrome installed and is browsing the internet with Chrome. Is there anyway that Google can collect such information beyond what can be sent over browser? Assuming that there is a chance that chrome could access a lot more information about a particular device and send it back to big G for analysis.

If anyone can chimp into this it's gonna be a very good discussion because this is what I have been looking into since last year.

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Cheers for your input! Regular Chrome Browser profile or any kind of Chromium profiles? Also using the same IP/internet connection for the same computer and different browser profiles will cause a flag for the accounts or is it really the payment method/domain etc that causes an unusual activity?

Thanks

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Of course Google could. It is also possible to run Chrome without the sandbox....

But if you are scared of fingerprinting, etc. run FraudFox inside the VM. One word of advice: This thing is called FraudFox, yet for secrecy it is OK, but you should - never - commit fraud (with it)!! Fraud is totally unacceptable.

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Software and websites are very different entities when it comes to this - Websites could only ever access things like the MAC address through exploits - none are known to exist currently in major browsers (firefox/chrome) - even if one was discovered - no reputable website is going to risk their reputation by exploiting a software vulnerability to access something like your MAC address - MAC addresses can be spoofed so there's no hard evidence there.

When it comes to software I can say with certainty that the Chrome browser can read your MAC address - now if this is reported back to Google, linked to your account - who's to say. The Chrome communication would be done outside of the browser sandbox in the background - so websites would have no way of accessing any data from the Chrome software itself. I certainly wouldn't lose sleep over something like this.

That said, Chrome is not open source so we can't be sure the exact calls it makes without diving a lot deeper into the subject. Chrome is based on the open source Chromium browser - short for, Chrome without the Google tracking (all code is open and we can see what it's up to).

It's my opinion that Google would NOT risk sending any identifiable information about you from the Chrome browser in order to link profiles (it would be done in other ways). I'd say you are more than fine with Chrome and in fact, safer in some cases - Chromium can be dangerous if you forget to keep it updated.

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Chrome or Chromium is fine. IP/payment methods/domains/addresses are usually the main linking factors for big tech companies.

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Thanks man, you helped a lot! May I ask if you make use of data plans and different SIMs or use a residential IP service such us luminati or noip to maintain all the accounts on one computer? Cheers

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Use a service that offers residential IP's indeed, luminati is not the only one offering this. You can handle multiple accounts on one computer or VM. What I am more interested in is the Payment methods. For some time now, I've been getting the unusual activity message everytime after adding an Advertisement and letting it run. Sometimes instantly, sometimes after a day. The Ad Account never spends. If anyone has a solution, please PM me. Thanks in advance!

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@dinonysus Luminati has an agreement with google whereby all google.com traffic is routed through a datacentre, not residential. This was done to stop click fraud on adverts. You cant use Luminati to create adwords.

You'll see this happening when you google "what is my IP" and google shows it above the search results - datacentre

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But can you use Luminati for Facebook Ads? I noticed that noip residential IP's will show different IP on google and a different one on a website where you can check the IP (is this the datacenter thing)?

Or does FB understand that you are using a proxy service and gives unusual activities all the time because those IP's are not static they always change during the session.

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Which chromium browser?

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Likely comodo or epic browser. The former has a mode which runs the browser in a fully virtualized sandbox, isolated from your computer.

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