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06-27-2017 08:10 PM #1 sneakerbro (Member)
Scaling Smartlinks?

Hi Guys,

Ive been running Smartlinks for a few weeks now and im getting -10% - +10% for a couple of days now.
A few campaings givin me
+200-400% ROI.
But its only X$ a day. How can i quickly Scale these Campaings? I mean Smartlinks switch offers so fast that im always to slow to scale it. When i increase the Budget on my 2 Main Traffic Sources i dont get not more click cause of the really super Targeted setup.

My Setup is so super targeted because Afflow gives the opportunity to see what daytime/Carrier/Browser/... is converting the best.

Should i change my strategy or is there any solution for mine.

Thanks


06-27-2017 10:19 PM #2 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

When targeting very precisely, you will limit yourself when it comes to available volume ... there is no way around it, that's how it works. The only way is to use more sources.

Another way, which worked better for me too, is to open the targeting a bit ... smartlink networks have offers for pretty much any traffic type, use it to your advantage.

You can also use multiple smartlink networks at once - if you see that some traffic is performing well for you with afflow, send it there ... but at the same time, try to send some other traffic to another smartlink network. Even though many of the popular smartlink networks work together in one way or another, some are still better in some GEOs/Carriers ... it's just a matter of testing.


06-28-2017 10:48 AM #3 blueflag (Member)

Ask your rep at the Smartlink network which carriers are stable since a few weeks and plug in more sources. There are evergreens like Italy TIM, Iran Asiacell, CL Claro that perform since ages here you can try as much sources as you want to get serious numbers. Way more then the mentioned ones are of course available... If you see an option like MX or AR that runs always good for a few weeks try to scale there fast. Time targeting is a hustle and this offers are very rarely stable over a longer period. If you are an affiliate of Brokerbabe or Glize, let me know then I can provide you some more details about the Smartlink campaigns that are top for us at the moment.


06-29-2017 06:12 AM #4 machix (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by sneakerbro View Post
How can i quickly Scale these Campaings? I mean Smartlinks switch offers so fast that im always to slow to scale it.
Yes, that's right. Because some offers inside smartlinks are constantly changing i.e. offers page down, paused or capped out, etc., performance wont always be stable and that's normal for smartlinks. Thats why You should be constantly split testing smartlinks from various networks - different smartlinks could perform well the next day for certain geo-OS-3G/Wifi traffic combination. Why? This is because networks are rotating different offers in their smartlink and have different algorithms on their smartlinks so performance varies across networks.

I agree with matuloo, don't be too targeted and run on more traffic sources.


09-15-2017 08:19 PM #5 achowdh3 (Member)

hello Matuloo, would you say it is possible to make green campaigns with smartlinks? Seems as though if we get it to work, we are basically avoiding searching offers/creatives.. And we are only focusing on optimizing traffic sources. However, I heard from a few affiliates in the past that they prefer the traditional offer searching/creatives searching because we know what we are promoting... However, i know Kimia and a few others show which offers are converting in the smartlinks... wouldn't that make smartlink the clear winner over the single offer approach?


09-15-2017 09:47 PM #6 Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)
Scaling Smartlinks?

If you are willing to put some work into it, you can setup your own smartlinks and have more control over the offers.

I think all or most trackers have the functionality now, and some even auto optimize.

Btw: The optimization part is on the todo list for p202.


09-17-2017 09:02 PM #7 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by achowdh3 View Post
hello Matuloo, would you say it is possible to make green campaigns with smartlinks? Seems as though if we get it to work, we are basically avoiding searching offers/creatives.. And we are only focusing on optimizing traffic sources. However, I heard from a few affiliates in the past that they prefer the traditional offer searching/creatives searching because we know what we are promoting... However, i know Kimia and a few others show which offers are converting in the smartlinks... wouldn't that make smartlink the clear winner over the single offer approach?
Clear winner? Nope A viable option? Yes

Plus there is the approach that Mr Baffoe mentioned, you can kinda make your own smartlink, or use a network that has such a functionality ... for example Bitterstrawberry let's you basically configure your own smartlink, Kimia has pre-defined Matrix pools for some GEOs ... I think Mobidea has a similar option with their in-house tracking solution... even a tracker like Voluum or funnelflux can rotate offers based on plenty of criteria that you can define.

Smartlinks have some advantages over pushing single offers - like replacing the offer when some goes down or reaches the budget, it uses offers tested on real traffic before ... On the other hand, smartlinks have to use part of the traffic to actually test new offers, so some % will get to a waste ... When promoting solo offers, you need to police it more, which can be a pain during the night ...

There is NO clear winner here in my opinion.


09-19-2017 04:50 AM #8 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Lots of great tips have been given!

Also: Before you even set up a test campaign, confirm that there's enough traffic volume for your targeting at the traffic source first. The more traffic you have, the more you can afford to cut and still have enough left over to profit from.

It's never fun trying to make little bits of traffic profitable - it takes forever for anything to reach statistical significance, you're careful about cutting anything to further decrease the traffic volume, and even if you do end up making the camp profitable you're wasting time managing it for a couple of dollars a day. Would be better off getting a J.O.B. than babysitting a bunch of unstable tiny camps IMO.



Amy


10-05-2017 11:15 AM #9 Kazza Kimia (Member)

Joining the game late here. As mentioned above, long-term stability in geos is difficult. Speaking with your AM is the best way to go. In grand schemes our top geos with stable smartlink performance over the past month are IN, IT, PT, ZA. But we also have had great spikes in IND and Brazil and others. We provide you with access to the offers in the smartlink, so you can identify top earners and scale on these specific offers. Hit me up if you are interested in more info.


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