Pushing Forward - Scaling From 500-1k/Day To 5k/Day in 6 Months (38)
Pushing Forward - Scaling From 500-1k/Day To 5k/Day in 6 Months
Back again!
After my first AWE I'm feeling fired up again and ready to scale this business through the roof. I'm not quite sure if I'll continue updating here but I figured starting a new FA might kick my ass into gear and keep me motivated.
The plan is to scale my pops camps from $500-1k/day to a consistent 1k+/day. I typically average around $5-600/day with some days doing better than others, but I think I should be able to get this to 4 figs pretty easily. Once I have my pops camps firing on all cylinders, step 2 is to get to work on native. I started native only 2-3 weeks ago but I already have a camp doing breakeven most days, with some days doing xxx/day. It's profitable overall. I plan to scale this to more devices, topics, etc... On top of this 1 camp, I have a pretty good idea of some other camps that will be able to bring me to at least 1k/day on native. Step 3 will be launching more and more camps on native, scaling along the way. This alone should be able to get me to a steady 5k+/day. As a bonus, if things are going well, I plan to start my FB farming setup along the way, which should eventually allow me to scale to 10k/day and beyond.
Today is June 18th, 2017. My first official day in this countdown will be tomorrow, Monday June 18th. The deadline for 5k/day will be December 18th, 2017 (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).
What else is there to say? Let's get this party started!
Cheers,
Brad
Sounds great Brad!
Goals are laid down, time to do some work! 
Nice plan Brad!
I just have jumped from pop to native,too.
Looking forward to your upgrade.
Day 1 has begun!
I got up early today at 8am, which let me tell you, is no easy task for someone like me who winds up staying up to 3am and waking up at 1pm on the regular. But these next 6 months are not just about making money, but also about bettering myself in as many ways as possible. I've also decided to quit drinking for the time being. I may have 1 or 2 when going out for dinner, or a couple nights here and there, but for the most part I won't be consuming alcohol. I've wanted to quit cold turkey many times because often times I just can't control how much I drink and I end up hating myself the next day. Not to mention the weight gain that comes with drinking. And finally, I also signed up to forks over knives meal planner, a vegan meal planner/prep guide for tasty, healthy, nutritious meals. And along with this I am going to try and workout every single day.
On to the campaign side of things, today started off with some bad news. My native camp apparently stopped converting on the back end for my advertiser, which is no fun for me because yesterday it did $186 profit, my biggest day for that camp yet. Luckily I am allowed to keep running, however they want me to test desktop. That being said, I am also planning on testing another offer with the same camp to see how it does. The new offer I want to test has someone doing 500k/mo on it, so it's a pretty big offer. I have AWE to thank for this info. However, before I get into all this native stuff, I need to work on my pops stuff.
So to break down that paragraph, I will be:
-Split testing a new offer
-Testing desktop on the current offer
On the pops side of things, I decided it's high time I start a spreadsheet to keep track of all my campaigns again. This took all of 5 minutes to do and now I am once again super organized and ready to get a lot of work done. I am currently going through all of the networks I've had success on, and jotting down some notes on what has to be done. Eg. Top up the account, tweak the campaigns, scale certain geos, etc... I have also added some new networks which I have not yet tested. These 2 networks I met at AWE, and I believe they will be able to help me scale quite a bit. I think by getting organized here with pops, I should be able to see some 1.5-2k days pretty soon. It's a little hard to tell, but that's what I'm hoping for.
That's all for now!
Cheers,
Brad
Originally Posted by xxf8xx
Great to hear you got some utility out of AWE and good luck with that offer.
Just to add to the whole better-yourself-plan (which I think is great), I highly suggest you look into mindfulness and meditation - just a quick 10-15 minutes every day truly does wonder for your ability to be clear headed when crunching those campaign numbers.
If you're planning to exercise every day do it first thing in the morning and get it out of the way before anything else.
Once you have it included into your daily routine it's hard to go without it.
This sounds like a great plan and honestly super close to my own! Good luck and will be following!
Running pops and native at the same time can really iron out some of the ups and downs and push you into new territory with your income. Of course, it requires some systems in place to do this justice so that you are not over stretched.!
I think your plan is very achievable, especially if you are seeing good success with these traffic types currently.
Day 2 is here.
Haven't got as much done as I'd like so far but things are still happening. Trying to get one traffic source to get me the targeting I need. I think it's possible but it's taking some tweaking on the backend. This is part of the power of networking. They are trying to get me targeting which does not exist on their network yet. If we can get it working it should equal another $1-200/day profit in my pocket so it's kind of a big deal. I also still have lots of other traffic sources to go through, some of which are new and some of which I think can be scaled higher. I think I may inquire about some bulk buys as well. If I could get 100% of the traffic share for my targeting I could easily jump to xxxx/day.
I'm also looking to test some new offers this week. Hopefully by adding some new offers I can also add some extra profits. There are many I need to go through and test.
In native land, my offer is not converting on the backend anymore for the advertiser. Not sure what would cause this but there has not been a single paying customer on their end. Kind of frustrating but I have some other offers I need to test. Only thing here is my time is limited and I'm basically only focused on pops right now until I hit 4 figs/day.
Yesterday's scaling has been meh. I think there are some spots that can do well though. There's a lot more to be done however.
For anyone who needs screenshots to enjoy a follow along thread, here's a screenshot to keep you happy.
Cheers,
Brad
awesome im really liking all the hard work and positive vibes i see in here congrats brother!
Good thread brad, will keep an eye on this.
wish you the best.
Just going to keep this brief. Traffic quality was all of a sudden fine on my main native camp yesterday. Going to keep running and if possible I'd like to scale to more devices as soon as I get through my pops tasks. Also, my other native camp, which pays $90/sale, got 2 leads and was profitable as well. In total I made $150 profit on native yesterday! Woohoo!
As for pops, I am trying to work out some bulk buys with a couple sources. Not sure if the deals will go through or not but something like this could be huge for me. There are also a couple more sources I need to test, and a few that I launched but aren't really getting much traffic. I'm going to try to squeeze out what I can and then move on to testing a couple new offers. At that point, pops will be back on autopilot and I will be zeroing in on native.
Cheers,
Brad
Solid FA and cool to meet during AWE! I'm working on something similar atm
Originally Posted by 411affiliate
Hello again!
Pops doesn't seem to want to be scaleable I guess. I can't seem to break through this plateau. I'm going to try a couple more things, but I think I need to jump ship over to native. Today my ROI has dropped considerably, but it's happened before so hopefully it's temporary.
Tomorrow I plan to do my last scaling attempts for pops and then dive more into native. I already launched a new camp today that is awaiting approval. I'm sceptical because it is a very low payout, but I see some big guys running the same offer and there is room for higher payouts if the quality backs out. Tomorrow I am going to go spying and then try to launch a few new camps over the next week and hopefully find a winner that can be scaled to the moooonnnnnn!
Oh, I also started researching crypto currencies. I've only invested $250 CAD for now but will most likely dive a little deeper once I have an idea of what I am doing.
Cheers,
Brad
Nice progress here Brad.
Is this across more geos, or you are trying to scale out 1 particular geo / offer combination?
What you can do if you didn't yet is:
- open your frequency cap
- raise bids
- loose the targeting if possible (you can try tablets, different OS etc)
- duplicate the campaign on the same source
- try to take it to as much sources as possible
You are really close to 4 figures now!
Originally Posted by erikgyepes
I think it makes more sense to just go down the native rabbit hole as it can be quite easy to hit 5k/day with 1 or 2 well scaled out camps.
Hello hello!
Looks like I will be joining a native mastermind! Super excited for this as my pops MM was a huge part of my current success. I think some of the guys are already hitting xxx and some even xxxx/day already so it will be amazing to network with these people.
Plan for this week is to take my winning campaign which is already doing xx-1xx/day and scale it through the roof. For starts, I can test more topics. I'm a little nervous for this since I know there are a lot of crap placements that are budget hungry, but once I weed through them things will be back normal with hopefully a higher profit. I will also be scaling to more devices. Right now I'm only running on iPhones. And finally, I'll be testing more geos. There are people running this offer and doing 20k/day in revenue, so let's see what we can do with it!
Cheers,
Brad
You're doing really Brad!
It's awesome to see someone sharing their success with the community, keep going please
Matej.
Quick update. Things are still coming along although my pops stuff seems to be slowly dwindling still. I'm really putting a lot of effort into native now to hopefully get this second stream of income up and running as quickly as possible. Right now I am focusing on scaling my main camp there. Yesterday I opened it up to 4-5 new topics, opened up some more devices, and scaled to 1 new geo. Today I also want to scale to a few more geos as well. I'm just going to go rip a translated version of my lander and launch it.
Yesterday's total on native was -4.5% ROI and -$35 profit on $790 spend. Not too shabby really. In a few days I think I could be doing steady low xxx/day if everything goes as planned. This one camp alone probably even has the potential to do 5k/day. It will be interesting to see where I can take this.
Cheers,
Brad
thats whats up! looking good... AWE def should be firing everyone up and going strong. ill be following as well for the native side of things.
Yesterday was a bit worse for native. $962 spend and -20%ROI/-$192. It's all good though because in a couple of days I should be able to pause some more widgets and in a worse case scenario, I'll pause some targets, or maybe just try a lower bid on those targets. Eg. One target has 1 conversion in the last 2.5 days and is close to -$100 profit overall. Pausing this target alone could boost ROI a lot.
In the meantime, I really need to get into the automation side of things.
Hopefully by next week I am reporting some profits with native. I'm super close!
Cheers,
Brad
Bam! Was able to just secure a $2 bump for the offer I am running. This alone should bring me up to break even or maybe even tiny profits. I am also pausing some ads that are losing money and will be testing a bunch of new ones, including new angles. I also day parted (bidding minimum bid on those hours) my biggest campaign with the new automation software I am testing, as well as set up some rules to auto blacklist certain placements. I never got around to scaling to new geos, but I think it's best to hold off on that for now until I can squeeze out some solid profits on my current camps first. Cash flow is already getting tight again since I have ramped up my spend considerably. But once I can get my current camps to 30-50% ROI or more I can really ramp this up by hitting more geos and more native networks.
What's really crazy about native are things like this:
This is the difference of 2 ads using the same image, and ALMOST the same exact headline, except 2 words have been changed. It's all about the ads here in native it seems. If 2 words can have such a huge impact, imagine what a completely different angle can do!
Yesterday's ROI was a bit better at -14%, and I think today I'll be able to either break even or get profitable. That being said, I'm also tossing some new ads up so that has the possibility of bringing me back into the red.
Time to get to work!
Cheers,
Brad
Finally was profitable overall on native yesterday! A massive 5.3% ROI and $37 haha. The good news is it's only going to get better from here. I made a mistake yesterday while setting up a wl campaign. I forgot to give the wl campaign it's own campaign url so it was sending traffic to my original camp which wouldn't really allow me to see how the wl camp is performing. So I had to resubmit the wl for approval. In the meantime, the original camp went to shit for some reason, although it seemed to slightly recover after the wl got paused/resubmitted. I'm thinking the wl is probably taking all the good placements from the original, which is good, and that means I can probably blacklist the placements in the original camp once the wl is running smoothly. I've heard horror stories of people blacklisting the placements in the original campaign before the wl camp gains traction and then the whole camp dies.
I'm also waiting for my new angle camp to launch. I wasn't really sure how else to launch a new angle other than making an entirely new campaign since I didn't know how to route to the right lander based on which ad was clicked. Perhaps there is a way to set this up in
Cheers,
Brad
EDIT: I screwed up. Forgot to add the cost of the wl camp.Total was really -$14 and -1.9% ROI. Basically break even though so still can't complain.
In terms of creating a WL camp, yes never blacklist placements on the original camp before they have traction in the WL campaign.
Damn that was speedy! Thanks a ton Sebastian!
Good job Brad! Looking forward for higher ROI during this weekend 
Just dropping in to say I was PROFITABLE overall across all native camps yesterday! Woo!
Also, happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadians!
Cheers,
Brad
Back from Canada day long weekend! What a blast! Deadmau5 did a free show which was absolutely insane, and then yesterday and today was all about lounging at my friend's lake lot on a giant inflatable party island. Good times all around but really excited to get back to work.
Even though I haven't done any work since Friday, I'm starting to see some great numbers! On July 1st I finally had a 1k+ day for the first time in a while, coming in at $1067.88. WOOHOO! That day I did an amazing $161 profit on native. Unfortunately the next day, the 2nd, I did -$61. Today however, the 3rd, I am already at a massive $195 profit so far with native! It's amazing being able to see such quick progress into native as I've definitely heard some horror stories. Just to add maybe a hint of value here, what started causing the decent numbers was my whitelist campaign. It is doing over 200% ROI with 39 widgets running. Right now I have a couple camps running at some small losses, but soon I will be able to create some more whitelist campaigns for those as well. It'll be interesting to see how long these whitelist camps last.
Next step is to open up more topics to uncover some more widgets to add to my whitelists, while also continuing to run the blacklists in hope that more placements will pop up. I'll also be hitting up some more geos as well.
Time to scale this up this week!
Cheers,
Brad
Boom! Great progress!
The two biggest variables for scale on native are the creatives and placements.
You're already looking for new placements, that's great!
You can try to test as well new creatives on your BL camp to open up new placements.
Each creative has a specific CTR with each placement and only gets traffic from those where it's competitive.
By testing new creatives you will do 2 things, you will get cheap test impressions but as well unlock new placements in the BL campaign.
However you need to watch out that new creatives with high CTR but bad conversion rate don't take over.
This can become expensive really quick.
Hey guys! Been a while since I've dropped by here. I've had a really slack week but I'm ready to get back to action.
So far I've had a couple days with native that have done very close to $400 profit. Most days lately however are hitting around $100. Right now I'm gearing up to launch a massive test with new angles and creatives in attempt to unlock some more placements, like Sebastian mentioned above. My most profitable BL camp is only doing ~0.25% CTR. Yikes! Tons of room to scale here. I think I should be able to at least double that CTR, and maybe even get it up to 1% with enough work. That should allow me to unlock a ton of new placements. So that's what I am working with for now.
Looking forward to coming back here with bigger news soon!
Cheers,
Brad
Ok so my new angle I'm testing is having some insane ROIs, pushing 300%. However, the CTR is even lower, down to 0.12 - 0.16%. I need to test some more creatives for this angle, maybe source some untapped images, and if I still cannot get the CTR up I'll test a vCPM campaign in order to get traffic from a ton more placements. It could be well worth it even if the costs shoot up as long as the ROI on my new angle stays the same. I'm also opening up a few new topics in the mean time.
Cheers,
Brad
Originally Posted by xxf8xx
Great going man, congrats on your success!
do you cloak or run compliant?
vCPM is a good idea, however with a low CTR it can become very very expensive quickly.
You can try to just compensate the low CTR with a high CPC. Your ROI is good enough to even double your bid.
Othwerwise I would focus on the picture, it does 80% of the damage (saturation, colours, circles and arrows, zoom, flipping left to right, new pictures from instagram / youtube)
Some bad news coming in.
Quality has been bad the past week or so. My payout has been reduced from $16 to $12. I've also been told to scale back quite a bit until quality improves. I think it may be due to running on the same placements for so long. Most of my camps are all whitelist camps except for a desktop bl camp I am running. So far, I've tweaked my landers to make sure the readers know that what they are signing up for isn't free. The next thing I need to do is open up some more bl camps. I should also be testing some more creatives.
That being said, I'm on the hunt for some new offers, and possibly some new verticals as well. I need to go on a major launching spree. I've been way too slack lately and have just been kind of riding this campaign out, which is not really a good idea. I've just launched 1 new camp, but that payout is < $10 and I really don't think it has a chance in hell at being profitable, but we'll see. I know there are people doing hundreds of thousands in revenue a month on this offer, however I believe they are using mostly FB for this.
So moving forward:
-Create BL camps to test new placements for current offer
-Test more creatives
-See if new camp has any chance of being profitable
-Time to spy!
Just for fun, let's also set a short term goal. I will have my first 1k day with native only by August 19th.
Cheers,
Brad
Love to read this follow along. Great work dude
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