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let's make it with PPV and Sweepstakes Offers (20)

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let's start the journey .

1Campaign :
tracking tool : cpvlab
vertical: sweepstakes
Payout: 2.6USD
GEO : USA
Traffic Source : Popads


. i made 3 landing pages none of them are aggressive, normal landers with no scripts or any thing .

after spending $11.08 worth traffic on the campaign
this is the ctr of the landing pages .


the CTR is Sucks .

now what i did after seeing the results:

i have added to the landing pages the following :

-redirect after the visitor who clicks go back button to an other landing page that says this is your last chance , and i have included count down there.

-audio to all landing pages.

-vibration to all landing pages.


let me spend an other 10USD and see what happens .

should i start catting placements ? .


any suggestions about the campaign are welcome .

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Update
i used 3 landing pages .
i cut off one .

i am using 2 landers now


this is the total stats of the campaign so far

Ad spent : $44.37
Revenue : -$13.00
ROI : -70.70%

i didn't cut any placements yet .
i didn't play with the bid yet .
what do you think Guys Should i raise it or lower it ? .
my bid is $0.0009 and the GEO is USA As i mentioned above .
also an other question how do i can stop people from spying at me .
how do i make the campaign new so that the spy tools will not recognize it that it's been running for days . should i change only the source code of the landing page ? or what ? .

tomorrow i will post more screenshots about this .
so that we can cut the placements together .
i love you guys

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Nice start!

Your main focus should be on finding 1)a decent lander or better, and 2)a good/great offer. How many offers have you tested? 3 landers are probably not enough either.

You can test bids now if you like - run some traffic to each bid to see which one converts the best, then use that bid to use offers and landers.

Or, you could just use the current bid to test offers and landers - since you're getting conversions at this bid.

You can cut placements while testing landers and offers, to save on cost. Since US is such a big geo with a ton of traffic volume, you can cut extremely aggressively without having to worry about traffic volume. When you find a good offer+lander, you can always go back and retest some/all of the placements you've cut before.

Not many people know how to keep landers out of spy tools. Knowing how to do this is quite an edge. I wouldn't expect anyone to share this information (I certainly wouldn't). So you'd need to figure this out on your own (or consult with a good coder that understands how spy tools work).

As for how to get the spy tools to NOT know it's been running for days - I'm not sure. Try changing your website url and/or subdomain and/or domain name. That's where I would start.



Amy

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this is some stats from the campaign .

Total stats From the Day i Have started it .


should i cut some of these placements ? .


this is the placements that i have got conversions From


this is the Landers Starts .



what about the bis is it reasonable ? .
i didn't changed it at all .


do you think i can create a white list campaign based on this stats , since the GEO is Big .
then i keep looking for other placement this will save me money .

about Spying Yes i will Figure out some Way.
i am following the campaigns that i am running in adplexity and when i find some thing that works i will let you know .

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Nice - thanks for the screenshots.

Yup I would definitely run this camp further. Although all of the placements that have made conversions, only made one conversion each, 4 of the 5 are in profit. This is a case of so far so good.

And only 2 placements have spent more than the equivalent of 1 payout so far. So you need to run more traffic and see what happens.

As for the bid - obviously you're getting conversions at that bid, so that's a good sign. It's low for a tier 1 like US for sure, but you can always test bids later.

Whitelisting will often result in a massive reduction in traffic - you can test this yourself and see what will happen.

Do focus on testing offers and landers though!



Amy

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You're getting conversions, which is good ... I would wait with whitelisting too, it's too soon... you will basically just lose volume as Amy suggested already.

Since you say that your LPs are very clean, try to get a bit more aggressive - backbutton redirect could help it a lot for example. The CTR of your LPs looks quite to me too, definitely try to improve it a bit.

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hey matuloo thanks for the comment .
my landing pages are already aggressive .
let me pause the white list campaign then and let you know what happens .
i will black list some placements that spent more the offer payout and no conversion

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i have cut the following placements .

any ideas ?

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Some of those placements haven't even spent the equivalent of 1x payout yet.

You can cut placements as aggressively as you like - but do keep in mind that the more aggressively you cut, the less traffic you'll end up with. I'm not saying not to do it - cutting aggressively will require less money in testing placements, but the downside is what I said in the previous sentence.

If you have a ton of traffic available and you're far from green, then cutting aggressively may be justified. However, given that you're needing traffic now to test more offers and landers, I wouldn't recommended restricting traffic unnecessary. You can still pause placements that are in considerable loss, but probably not when they haven't even spent 1x payout.





Amy

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update

today stats :



one question
since the GEO is huge and i don't want to spend a lot on the campaign .
what if i did some thing Smart .
i will leave the campaign as it is right now .
spend 20 or 30 USD every day .
and i will chase the good placements like this .

and i will create a white list campaign that includes only good placements like this .
those placements will bring me profits every day .
and i will leave the old campaign live so that i will find new placements and add them to the white list campaign every day
i think this is a good optimization process .

of course i will keep split testing landing pages , that's what i am good at lander


because i don't want to loose money in this campaign .
at least i have to get some thing back even if it's small it doesn't matter .

vortex AND matuloo and the whole members what do you think guys ? .

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after creating a white list campaign .
i don't receive much traffic .
i get 2000 VIEW a day witch is not good at all .
i am confused .

i have spent 100USD on this Campaign and i got $23.40
what do you think Guys a about this campaign ? .

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This is an good method - except as you have found out, whitelisting on pop sources usually does not work well, and will leave you with little/no traffic.

A better way to do this, if you're not wanting to spend too much money (it's similar to what you said - I've talked about this several times on the forum and AMC course chat - I call it the "scalping method"):

-Run the camp to collect data.

-Monitor profitable placements, and calculate what the total profits are from JUST the profitable placements.

-If/When you're satisfied with the profits from those profitable placements, pause all other placements. If there are a ton of placements to pause, then just pause the bigger ones (leave the ones that are giving you a few impressions a day for example).

See how this works out for you.



Amy

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thanks vortex,
i have blacklisted around 3200 placement .
let's see what's Going to happen now .

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campaign paused .
am working now on new GEOS .
tier 3 and above .

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What happened exactly with the remaining placements?



Amy

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no thing the campaign is stack at -60% ROI .
i decided to pause it ,
and do mass testing of sweepstakes offers in other geos.

i will sty away from tier 1 Countries .

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I thought the placements you did NOT blacklist were the ones that were profitable for you?

Did they stop being profitable once you paused the other placements?



Amy

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after pausing the placements i keep getting traffic from other placements .
you can't end them man .
kkk
should i target one or 2 categories ?
most of the placements are adult categories .

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by the way i targeted only one category

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*groan* I HATE it when that happens!

The worst is when the new placements that keep cropping up are BIG placements that zap whatever daily budget you've set on it - AND it's traffic that doesn't convert. This is especially worse when you have what you thought was a well-optimized and profitable camp running, so you set your budget to a high limit or unlimited, and then these big bad placements appear out of nowhere and BAM all of a sudden you get the "your account balance is zero" email...

This is where automation will help a lot - then you could just set a maximum spend per placement without conversions as a cutting criterion.

OK then I understand and support your decision to move on.


Sweeps normally don't convert well for adult traffic - although I've heard of exceptions. I definitely wouldn't start there though.

I'm assuming you're targeting general traffic? If so, good call!



Amy

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