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05-08-2017 06:47 PM
#1
amorimluc (Member)
Running NUTRA on FB - Should I Use The Facebook Pixel?
Hey guys, really appreciate all the valuable info in this community so far!
So I have a whitelisted Facebook account, a proven LP (tested, but without great results above break-even on Adwords), and a large budget.
I'm know a lot of people are doing great with nutra (skin, in my case) offers on Facebook, and I really don't want to blow the opportunity I have with a whitelisted account.
My main question is: Is it safe to place my Facebook pixel code on the CAKE backend of the offer (through the affiliate network), or will Facebook notice, not like it, and ban me? A corollary to this question would be: Is the Facebook Pixel necessary to make bank on Facebook with this strategy? Or not?
My second, broader question would be: Do experienced nutra affiliates here have any advice for me? (I would be interested in partnering up with someone who know's what they're doing to take advantage of my whitelisted account).
Thanks!
05-09-2017 12:24 PM
#2
puesya (Member)
I always have, people say not to however I've never had a problem doing this. I usually have 5-10 accounts on each offer, when 1 gets banned the rest do not. I don't think they are connected by this. As for partnering up I already have all the accounts I need......if you want to skype: puesya
05-09-2017 02:59 PM
#3
mihalis09 (Member)
Originally Posted by
amorimluc
My main question is: Is it safe to place my Facebook pixel code on the CAKE backend of the offer (through the affiliate network), or will Facebook notice, not like it, and ban me? A corollary to this question would be: Is the Facebook Pixel necessary to make bank on Facebook with this strategy? Or not?
This is an excellent question. I'd love for someone with more experience to chime in here since i myself too have tried placing the pixel on Cake's tracking tab and it wouldn't report anything, ie conversion events, back to Facebook as seen in FB's Campaign Breakdown
05-09-2017 03:12 PM
#4
puesya (Member)
Originally Posted by
mihalis09
This is an excellent question. I'd love for someone with more experience to chime in here since i myself too have tried placing the pixel on Cake's tracking tab and it wouldn't report anything, ie conversion events, back to Facebook as seen in FB's Campaign Breakdown
you need to only add the noscript part of it without the no script tag, and change pageview to your event. Hope that helps
05-09-2017 05:44 PM
#5
jackit (Member)
Originally Posted by
puesya
you need to only add the noscript part of it without the no script tag, and change pageview to your event. Hope that helps
based on what I understand, using just the noscript portion will negate the effectiveness of Pixel usage (i.e. audience tuning that FB does). all the noscript portion does is report back to FB that a conversion occurred (nothing else)
Without the rest of the JavaScript, FB has no way of reading the FB cookie and thus associating the conversion back to the FB user that clicked the link.
for cake, this is what works for me:
in the Pixel HTML box, paste the following:
repalce "XXXXXXXXX" with your own pixel ID
replace "9999999999" with the whole dollar amount you want reported back o FB
Code:
<!-- Facebook Pixel Code -->
<script>
!function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s){if(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod?
n.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)};if(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;
n.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0';n.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0;
t.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0];s.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window,
document,'script','https://connect.facebook.net/en_US/fbevents.js');
fbq('init', 'XXXXXXXXX'); // Insert your pixel ID here.
fbq('track', 'PageView');
fbq('track', 'Purchase', {value: '9999999999', currency:'USD'});
</script>
<noscript><img height="1" width="1" style="display:none"
src="https://www.facebook.com/tr?id=XXXXXXXXX&ev=Purchase&noscript=1"
/></noscript>
<!-- End Facebook Pixel Code -->
05-10-2017 02:49 AM
#6
puesya (Member)
Originally Posted by
jackit
based on what I understand, using just the noscript portion will negate the effectiveness of Pixel usage (i.e. audience tuning that FB does). all the noscript portion does is report back to FB that a conversion occurred (nothing else)
Without the rest of the JavaScript, FB has no way of reading the FB cookie and thus associating the conversion back to the FB user that clicked the link.
for cake, this is what works for me:
in the Pixel HTML box, paste the following:
repalce "XXXXXXXXX" with your own pixel ID
replace "9999999999" with the whole dollar amount you want reported back o FB
Code:
<!-- Facebook Pixel Code -->
<script>
!function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s){if(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod?
n.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)};if(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;
n.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0';n.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0;
t.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0];s.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window,
document,'script','https://connect.facebook.net/en_US/fbevents.js');
fbq('init', 'XXXXXXXXX'); // Insert your pixel ID here.
fbq('track', 'PageView');
fbq('track', 'Purchase', {value: '9999999999', currency:'USD'});
</script>
<noscript><img height="1" width="1" style="display:none"
src="https://www.facebook.com/tr?id=XXXXXXXXX&ev=Purchase&noscript=1"
/></noscript>
<!-- End Facebook Pixel Code -->
Really? I was unaware, time to test this and see if I see better results. Thanks
05-10-2017 12:43 PM
#7
amorimluc (Member)
Hey @jackit, you use the Facebook Pixel then on CAKE without getting your account banned?
05-10-2017 01:35 PM
#8
puesya (Member)
Originally Posted by
amorimluc
Hey @jackit, you use the Facebook Pixel then on CAKE without getting your account banned?
I do, have you been banned before for this?
05-10-2017 03:32 PM
#9
jackit (Member)
Originally Posted by
amorimluc
Hey @jackit, you use the Facebook Pixel then on CAKE without getting your account banned?
I run Nutra, so of course I've been banned... many many times
I use a master shared pixel across multiple accounts and based on the frequency and spacing of bans (LOL)... I don't belive the pixel has impacted banning in any way.
05-10-2017 03:33 PM
#10
puesya (Member)
Originally Posted by
jackit
based on what I understand, using just the noscript portion will negate the effectiveness of Pixel usage (i.e. audience tuning that FB does). all the noscript portion does is report back to FB that a conversion occurred (nothing else)
Without the rest of the JavaScript, FB has no way of reading the FB cookie and thus associating the conversion back to the FB user that clicked the link.
for cake, this is what works for me:
in the Pixel HTML box, paste the following:
repalce "XXXXXXXXX" with your own pixel ID
replace "9999999999" with the whole dollar amount you want reported back o FB
Code:
<!-- Facebook Pixel Code -->
<script>
!function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s){if(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod?
n.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)};if(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;
n.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0';n.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0;
t.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0];s.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window,
document,'script','https://connect.facebook.net/en_US/fbevents.js');
fbq('init', 'XXXXXXXXX'); // Insert your pixel ID here.
fbq('track', 'PageView');
fbq('track', 'Purchase', {value: '9999999999', currency:'USD'});
</script>
<noscript><img height="1" width="1" style="display:none"
src="https://www.facebook.com/tr?id=XXXXXXXXX&ev=Purchase&noscript=1"
/></noscript>
<!-- End Facebook Pixel Code -->
also if this is true how does it know what country age and sex it was.....Im starting to disagree with this...because of that. Are you sure?
05-10-2017 03:35 PM
#11
jackit (Member)
Originally Posted by
puesya
Really? I was unaware, time to test this and see if I see better results. Thanks
yes.. the noscript part is simply an impression tracking image counter..
Code:
<noscript><img height="1" width="1" style="display:none" src="https://www.facebook.com/tr?id=XXXXXXXXX&ev=Purchase&noscript=1"/></noscript>
05-10-2017 03:40 PM
#12
jackit (Member)
Originally Posted by
puesya
also if this is true how does it know what country age and sex it was.....Im starting to disagree with this...because of that. Are you sure?
FB uses JavaScript to read the the cookie it sets on the ad clicker's computer. The cookie contains a bunch of info, (I haven't checked, but likely includes the UID as well) with that info they can reference back the FB users profile.
noscript = no JavaScript, no cookie data, no user info
05-10-2017 05:57 PM
#13
amorimluc (Member)
When you get an ad account banned, have you ever had other ad accounts (under the same business manager) get banned as well?
And you mean you use one pixel across multiple ad accounts? I thought you could only use one pixel per ad account. How do you do that? :O
05-10-2017 06:09 PM
#14
jackit (Member)
Originally Posted by
amorimluc
When you get an ad account banned, have you ever had other ad accounts (under the same business manager) get banned as well?
And you mean you use one pixel across multiple ad accounts? I thought you could only use one pixel per ad account. How do you do that? :O
PM sent
05-17-2017 04:11 PM
#15
amorimluc (Member)
Hey @jackit I have that code up on my CAKE backend (with my Pixel number), but my conversions are still not getting reported on Facebook. Your conversions get reported back to Facebook? Do you think it's most likely my Affiliate Network's fault then?
05-17-2017 06:52 PM
#16
jackit (Member)
Originally Posted by
amorimluc
Hey @jackit I have that code up on my CAKE backend (with my Pixel number), but my conversions are still not getting reported on Facebook. Your conversions get reported back to Facebook? Do you think it's most likely my Affiliate Network's fault then?
Yes my conversions report back without issue.
Talk to your account manager, have him check your implementation to make sure it's set up correctly on the the Aff Networks end. Mine worked from the outset, on three different networks running Cake.
06-27-2017 05:08 PM
#17
mihalis09 (Member)
Originally Posted by
jackit
for cake, this is what works for me:
in the Pixel HTML box, paste the following:
repalce "XXXXXXXXX" with your own pixel ID
replace "9999999999" with the whole dollar amount you want reported back o FB
Code:
<!-- Facebook Pixel Code -->
<script>
!function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s){if(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod?
n.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)};if(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;
n.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0';n.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0;
t.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0];s.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window,
document,'script','https://connect.facebook.net/en_US/fbevents.js');
fbq('init', 'XXXXXXXXX'); // Insert your pixel ID here.
fbq('track', 'PageView');
fbq('track', 'Purchase', {value: '9999999999', currency:'USD'});
</script>
<noscript><img height="1" width="1" style="display:none"
src="https://www.facebook.com/tr?id=XXXXXXXXX&ev=Purchase&noscript=1"
/></noscript>
<!-- End Facebook Pixel Code -->
Testing this but I cannot see any conversions on Facebook. I go by Breakdown by age for instance adding relevant columns to see what agegroup conversions came from but nada.
Working for anyone?
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