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04-22-2017 09:20 PM #1 magician (Member)
Peerfly and Bing?

I am a newbie and just got accepted in peerfly. I was wondering what are good verticals that convert well with bing? How does Dating work (with different geos, maybe tier 2?). Any advise or things to read? Is this a good idea for newbie or just in general. Any other good networks to play with. Also note I have $350 budget to run campaigns. Any other Networks that work well with bing?


04-22-2017 09:36 PM #2 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

$350 is pretty low, not sure if you can do anything with that.

If you really want to try dating with that kind of budget, try adult/casual dating in tier2-3 countries or GEOs like Poland, Hungary, Czech or Slovak Republic ...


04-22-2017 09:53 PM #3 magician (Member)

Is Adult dating or just dating, hard to break into as a newbie? How about niche, something like latino men, or black women and stick to tier 1?


04-22-2017 10:52 PM #4 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by magician View Post
Is Adult dating or just dating, hard to break into as a newbie? How about niche, something like latino men, or black women and stick to tier 1?
Easy days are over, anything that you'll attempt to break into, will require significant effort on your side ... but I guess you already know this

Since most traffic sources don't really allow precise interest targeting, I'd stick to the more general niches. Definitely stay away from tier-1 when starting out, especially with that budget.


04-23-2017 05:03 AM #5 erikgyepes (Moderator)

You should have at least that amount x 10 to start. You won't cover even your basic setup with this (tracker, servers, spy tools).

I recommend to build up your budget first, otherwise you just going to lose money and say that this thing doesn't work (because you cannot make it work because of lack of solid budget).


04-23-2017 08:31 AM #6 magician (Member)

O sorry I guys I meant Per month! Now I understood why everyone is freaking out... And This is not including other tools, I will cover with my tools budget, 350 per month just for running campaigns.


04-23-2017 08:33 AM #7 magician (Member)

Everything or are you talking about dating niche? And why can't use something like bing to use Keywords to target niches like latino dating?


04-23-2017 12:48 PM #8 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by magician View Post
Everything or are you talking about dating niche? And why can't use something like bing to use Keywords to target niches like latino dating?
Bids for regular dating on bing will be very high, you will burn $350 very fast, lose large part of it and game over.

Adult dating in the GEOs that I suggested is a better choice, because for $10 per day, you can still buy quite a lot of clicks and get some conversions ...

One way or another, your budget is very low indeed, gotta agree with Erik here ... not sure if you need 10x the amount, but the more the better.

The main problem is that to run solid volume, $10 per day simply isn't enough, you will need to limit the targeting or run only at certain times of the day, so the data will be cluttered.


04-23-2017 07:18 PM #9 magician (Member)

Well if you see conversion happening then, why can't you turn up the dial. I would be willing to turn up the dial if I see conversions.


04-24-2017 03:58 AM #10 opendoor (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by magician View Post
350 per month
This is still not enough of a budget to be running on Bing, you should save enough money to be able to run at least $100/day if you want to be able to make any kind of significant strides on Bing and even then $100/day would still be considered very low.


04-24-2017 10:16 AM #11 caurmen (Administrator)

Is there any reason in particular you've chosen Bing? Other traffic sources are likely to be more friendly on a lower budget.

(Although I'd agree with Erik and Matuloo here: $350pm is on the low side. You can learn on that, but it'll take a while.)


04-24-2017 11:24 AM #12 magician (Member)

Caurmen if you had my budget at $350 per month for ads (I have another 250 for tools and forum cost) what traffic source would you get into as a newbie, with learning but also potentional to be profitable would you get into?


04-25-2017 11:13 AM #13 caurmen (Administrator)

I'd recommend going for pops with PIN submits, running in Tier 2 or Tier 3 geos. Look for the lowest realistic payouts you can find - testing budgets are always multiples of payout, so the lower the payout the cheaper the campaign is to test. (But obviously if it's too low you can never get into profit!)

Vortex just wrote a great guide to getting started with pops: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-Very-1st-Camp and onward (check https://stmforum.com/forum/forumdisp...-s-First-Steps for the rest).


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