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Hey Isaac great stuff so far, wish I could help but the best I can offer is a bump & a dedicated follower in your thread.

If you have time for a question, in your recent ZA camp you said you have 5 offers. Are all of these 5 offers for WhatsApp mobile content? Are they different offers or are they the same offers from different networks? I ask because I've been setting up different unrelated offers for testing, but you seem to be looking for similar offers and testing them together. This seems better because your LPs would match but it seems tougher finding similar offers. Just wondering how you approach finding these offers where they'd all be similar

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All the offers are related Whastapp Update. Some times is difficult to find similar offers, from different networks to fit to the GEO you want , but this time the stars align.

The main concept all of landers is WhatsApp Update but from different angles.

Thanks
Issac

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Welcome to STM!

You are in for a very steep learning curve. Working on a performance basis is a completely different world ... brace yourself for a big adventure and good luck!

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Hey Issac,

You don't have enough quality traffic to make solid decisions yet. If regarding budget it's ok for you, I would advise you to try increasing the bid and going for top positions. Even because you cannot properly judge performance if you’re in a low position and receiving traffic of not so good quality.

Just after you have really consistent data (good position + more volumes) you can judge if the offer really doesn’t perform well enough. You could try including other offers.
Testing another traffic source without properly exploring this one is not the answer.

Regarding OS, you should definitely focus on Android.

Hope it helps! Cheers

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@Mobidea .First of all, thanks for your time and comments. Definitely, helps.

I´m gonna follow your comments, and share results.

Thank you
Isaac

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Unless you're testing offers with a payout above $20 or so (unlikely, I'd assume), I would recommend testing more offers as top priority.

Bluntly, most offers you try won't work out. Testing a large enough volume of offers to find the ones that do convert is probably the most important step in starting your affiliate journey.

I'd also strongly recommend doing a bot test on your current targeting: you can find out how to do that here - https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...n-Any-Campaign

Good luck, and looking forward to your next results.

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Hello Isaac,
1. From my Experience in the Industry, I think you might quickly bring down offers with ROI beyond -50, as the campaigns are not likely to be profitable. e.g -100, -200.
2. If the offer had allowed Maxis, and you had targeted this, it would have converted better especially with PopAds.
3. I think you should take into consideration split-testing of offer pages with two Networks as well.
Good job man.

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Ok, looks like you are starting to get an idea about what you are doing here, so I'm not gonna waste your time with some noobie advice

What you have to do now is : find an offer that works and find proper LPs for it. You also have to make sure you are working with legit traffic and not BOTs. And the traffic has to match the required targeting.

1. Have you ran some kind of a bot test?
2. Are you getting properly targeted traffic - traffic from carriers that the offer accepts?
3. Definitely test more offers, mass testing is the key with POPs.
4. Get more LPs too.
5. Assuming these are all PIN submit offers, android usually wins, so you can focus on it to limit your spend a bit.
6. Run with tight capping - impressions capping.

The first thing you need to make is get rid of the worst traffic (bot test) and find an offer that is working well.

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Hi all. We're going to have a baby, a boy, so I'm gonna be out some days. We are at the hospital right now. I'll resume the tasks as soon as possible. Thanks for your comments and help.

Issac

Issac

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Wow, congratulations! All the best in your new life with a little one, hope everything goes well

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Hey Isaac!

Nice follow along man. Very detailed and it seems you're doing a great work with your optimization process.

Well anyways, I've subscribed to this thread to see how you move along. Have a good time with your baby! Congratulations!

Hope to see you soon again on this thread!

Bruno

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Malaysia - Digi. Antivirus.

Number of offers: 4
Average payout: 2.25
LP number: 8. In two rounds
Traffic source: PopAds
Assigned budget: $ 63 for the moment.
Carrier: Digi
Revenue: 5.10
ROI: -92%
Release: 28/4
Finish: Running

I did a bot test with 14.000 impressions and 9.809 clicks, I could block 5 placements.

This campaign has offers with the following performance until yesterday.

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Very poor.

The landers are all taken from Adplexity, with adaptations, since I have taken other LPs from other GEOS, which had a lot of traffic, to adapt them to MY.

The first round:

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4/29. Two of the landers don't work like the rest. AM has a bad link and with AF I have not been able to figure out the reason. The others after 2000 click do not generate any conversion, so I change all the landers, this time looking at GEOS more competitive and adapting them. The results are not much better.

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This morning, my AM told me that all offers except one have dropped the performance, She advise me to continue with that single offer. I have eliminated all offers, so all traffic is for that offer. This is the result of today

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Next step: Test more landers and try to find other offer.

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Sorry, I don't understand what do you mean. Assign an amount of impressions to every offer'? Sorry....

Thanks

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Thank you very much.

I got a doubt. -50% after reach 8X payout. Need to reach statictical significance right?.

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CAP on Impressions is a setting that allows you to show your ad to the same user only once or several times. This is a very popular setting especially with banner traffic (but not only), since any user can visit several pages within a site, so your ad can be displayed for them multiple times. Wherever possible, set this to 1 impression per user, when starting out.

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I'm looking over your results, it looks very poor, you either picked bad offers or the LPs are not good. More than -90% is pretty much impossible to turn into green.

You need to start with mass testing of offers, but do not use so many LPs while doing these mass tests ... you need to cut down the cost of testing. In case your data make it possible, pick the best one or two LPs and continue with those. You will need more LPs later on, but first you have to find a bunch of promising offers.

BTW: congrats on becoming a dad! I'm a father of 3 so I know EXACTLY what your nights look like now. Stay strong, funny times ahead

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hey issac
i think what matuloo said is correct you have spent lot so far ,
and you can't see any green in your screenshots .
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-90% after spending that kind of money , that campaign is hard to be turned into green .

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Understood, yes this is what I do. I use frequency cap 1/24 hours, I'm gonna test different caps.

Thank you for the clarification.

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Yes, that is what I thought.

I will test with more variables in the offers and less in the LPS, while I search and modify landers for a later phase. It makes a lot of sense. So if the initial landres do not work either I can change them fast and start over again with less expense.


Thank you very much. He is my second, I got a girl. Three children makes you a Jedi dad of the highest level. I thought we will for three too. :-)

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This has to do with the quality of the offer I suppose, I will. Thank you very much

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