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Video Tutorial: How to Quickly Reach Profit Using Afflow and Zeropark (43)

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Video Length: 25:13 mins/secs
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYcMntawUf0



Hey STM'ers!

There has been alot of chatter lately about using Afflow/Monetizer/YTZ and Amy has produced an excellent 8-part series on the topic.

I put together a tutorial video to share with you my simple method of using Zeropark and Afflow to quickly find some profitable segments. This is a great method for beginners to get their feet wet and you can reach $20-50/day profit very fast using this approach. Many times these types of campaigns do not last too long (a few days) but occassionally you may find some that last longer. If you are very organized, you can maintain several of these campaigns and perhaps make the revenue more stable.

In the video you will find:

• My process for launching and testing with this method.
• How to setup your link in Afflow.
• How to setup your campaign in Zeropark.
• How to review the stats and decide what is working.

Requirements to use this method:

• Tracking Software (I recommend Voluum)
• Zeropark Account
• Afflow Account
• $200 budget. ($100 for initial test and atleast $100 to continue the profitable segments)

Here are the instructional slides found in the video, I like to call this method "Find the Honey" because its simple and sweet!















STM is the first place I've shared this content and I hope you find it helpful!

Please feel free to ask questions or leave me some feedback!




Andrew

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Andrew this is excellent! Thanks for posting here before posting to your own blog for the benefit of all our members!

This method is a lot simpler than mine, and complements it perfectly.

With this method, basically you'd be scraping the bottom of the barrel by bidding really low, which is normally a big nono when testing individual offers and landers, but is perfect for a worldwide camp like this. I've used the same method successfully with aff networks that have smartlinks, to identify promising offers to optimize/scale further.

The limits to this method is that there may not be a lot of scalability, as the main advantage is the low cost. But with this method you get results faster and on a smaller spend. Whereas using my method, if you're willing to invest in bidding high in high-eCPM segments and cutting targets aggressively, profits potentials are higher - downside of course is that more work+money would be necessary, plus it will take longer.

So I would definitely start with Andrew's method to make some profits first, then invest some of those profits into my method to dig deeper for the gold.

Thanks again Andrew for this fantastic share!



Amy

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Fantastic thanks so much to Vortex and MrPayne for your Afflow guides they are amazingly detailed! I can't wait to begin trying them myself the detail in these guides makes me feel so confident. +1 vote for MrPayne next STM Moderator.

Edit: Why test in two 12 hour periods to make sure you've tested in daytime instead of just dayparting from the beginning?

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Do you have best time of day to run?

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There is no best time of day to run this and the purpose of the 12 hour periods is to help cover as many geos as possible, while getting some traffic from those geos during their best times of day.

Literally, when you set your budget to $5 and bidding at .0001 you will hit your budget in like a matter of 30-60 seconds. And by the time Zeropark catches up and actually stops all the traffic you will have spent around $10-15.

If you wait 30-60 minutes and allow for all the conversions to show up (atleast the majority of them) and then repeat the process, you realistically will only cover a 5-6 hour period before hitting your budget.. that is usually long enough to find a few profitable segments.

When you're targeting the entire globe, there is no way to day part accurately. Some geos its night time, some its day time, some its early morning and others it late night. Just follow my instructions posted above and spend your first $100... and you will learn the answers to all of your questions.



Andrew

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Thanks SO much for this Andrew. This is awesome & actionable material. Just what I needed.

Signed up for (and approved at) ZP & Monetizer.com on your recommendation, so I will make sure to get a campaign setup in the next day or 2.

Will let you know how I get along.

Thanks again,
Alex

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Great share Andrew!

Cannot wait the success stories that will come after this post

BTW Similar technique was described also by Finch in one of his ebooks, he tested several smart link providers to discover new offers and then run them directly.

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Great guide: simple, practical, effective, and precise.

Nice one.

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Thanks for all the comments guys! Feels good to hear some positive feedback especially considering I'm not so comfortable or use to being on camera haha!

I intend to produce more content like these soon.



Andrew

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Great tutorial!!! Thanks alot, helps me to get a better understanding.

I just have one problem from 2 runs with 5$ each i only got 2 conversions. So no real feedback or data.
Do i make something wrong, or why else is it so unsucessfull?

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If you follow my method above, you will certainly get more than 2 conversions. You need follow my process exactly and spend a full $100 before you see enough results.

Two runs of $5 each across hundreds of countries doesn't give anything a chance to convert.




Andrew

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Do you restrict to non adult?

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No, I run it wide open in my initial test.. including both adult and non adult. Then once I isolate some segments into their own campaign, that is when I pay more attention to the details. My goal is just to find something that works quickly.

*disclaimer - you can do what you are comfortable with, this is just my approach.



Andrew

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I wish it would be like this:



This is like.. 6-7 hours.

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I'm not sure I understand what you are saying?

Is that a screenshot of your global test on Zeropark and Afflow?

If so, this test is looking correct so far. It's very common to fall between -40% and -60% ROI overall on the initial global campaign. Then, once you identify which segments are profiting the new campaigns you setup will be much better.


Andrew

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You said that global RON spends $5 in a minute.. I have been waiting 6-7 hours to spend $20. I only have like 5 targets paused. Instead of $0.0001 I'm using $0.0002 and higher for some countries because for some reason traffic doesn't flow as it used to. I remember when it took less than a minute to go through $5, but not sure what's going on these days. I tried yesterday and today, but I can't replicate that kind of speed. There seems to be a lot of competition for global RON at minimum bid.

Edit: Just to be a bit more specific, I'm using carrier only traffic:

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i have similar problems, this is over 7 hours...,

all settings like in your video, except only nonadult

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I haven't run this test recently but I would find it very hard to believe if you are only able to spend $20 after 6-7 of running on ZP even with .0001

And I can assume you have double checked all of your campaign settings? Targeting both wifi and carrier? All geos? both adult and non-adult? frequency cap to 1/24? mobile only but all devices? and no day parting?

** I see you updated your post with a screenshot. Should be targeting all traffic both wifi and carrier. The fewer settings you narrow down to in ZP the cheaper you can get traffic.

If you are still having issues after that, it could be due to 100s of you guys trying this same method and the same time.

It'll probably be a good idea to revisit this method in a week, once the initial rush of people testing this method has died down. But this is a method that you can use over and over, week after week.


Andrew

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Here is a picture of me running a test on 11/6/16 and spending $60 in around a 2-2.5 hour period...





Also, its very common for me to spend $10-15 in the first 10 minutes when I'm just targeting India alone at around the .0001 to .0003 range.


You don't have to run it at such a low CPM but I have done it many many times. And if everyone is jumping on ZP... you guys should try PopAds too.. works just the same (manual cost update tho) and you may need a slightly higher bid in the .0002 to .0005 range.



Andrew

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At the end it goes up because I enabled wifi. Got 100k+ visits and 3 conversions lol, I turned wifi back off because I didn't benefit from it much. I'll check my stats tomorrow, might have received more than 3.

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Hey Andrew-

Just got my first Afflow/ZP campaign loaded and awaiting approval thanks to your guidance. Looking forward to getting some data
and results coming in.

Also sent you a PM which I think falls outside the bounds of what your thread is about.

Thanks-
Alex

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My suggestion to you is not to bounce around and keep changing your settings.

Commit to a test... with XYZ settings/method... assess the results at the end and you will form your own method as time goes on.



Andrew

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Andrew,

I have yet to run this setup. On avg, what kind of ROI should a decent affiliate expect who has a solid foundation.

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There's no way to answer that question accurately. An affiliate with a solid foundation knows that there are so many variables that impact ROI and at the end of the day, Profit is king, not ROI.

I will say that on average I can very easily get 75-200% ROI on these types of short-lived campaigns but the volume offsets that ROI.

Typically, if you are organized and focused. You can find 5-10 of these campaigns within 2-3 day period with each one profiting $5-25/day quiet easily. Some cases you strike even better campaigns. And after graduating this method, check out Amy's very thorough 8-part guide.




Andrew

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I am sure many new affiliates like myself are dreaming about not having to worry, let the traffic flow, and rake the cash.

Typically, how long does a campaign last for you? Let's use a $25/day camp. When we say short lived, are we talking hours or days?

Thanks

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With Afflow it can be hours or days, from my personal experiences the best offers tend to last 2-5 days and the ultra hot offers last 6-12 hours.. I've heard of some campaigns lasting up to 4-6 weeks but those seem to be less common.

Your best strategy would be to create a systematic way of running 5-10+ campaigns at all times that are profiting between $5-25/day... collectively they will stablize your revenue and if a few offers go down you still have money coming in. Continue to grow it that way.



Andrew

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ZP algorithm is a bit strange. Sometimes it stops traffic early of what the daily budget may be. For example, you have a campaign set for 50/day and you notice around 44 it basically stops traffic. This would explain why some people at 5-10/day are not receiving much(or Any) traffic. My advice would be to raise the daily limit and if you can't afford to spend more than 5-10/day, than simply watch and pause manually. Although you should have a much much bigger budget.

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I don't set a budget for my campaigns. The reason why I didn't get much traffic was that I used mobile and carrier only and set the bid $0.0001. It produces traffic and conversions, but in terms of the amount of traffic it's nothing compared to desktop + mobile. Unfortunately if you run your traffic that way, you will get a lot of bots and other low quality traffic which means you are just wasting money.

Afflow is geared towards mobile users mostly, desktop/laptop traffic converts too, but you have higher chance to get conversions when you target mobile. This conclusion comes from my experience + I spoke with Afflow's staff about it, also someone from this forum said that too, I can't remember who. Afflow accepts all kinds of traffic so it's good idea to block hosting companies ISPs if you wish to run desktop in ZP. You can find a place where you can do it under "My Account" in ZP. That way you will limit your bot count which means your traffic is cloaked less and that means more conversions. I posted a small list of ISPs to my follow along, but I don't think I should post my link here because I'm not the op. Feel free to check out PPV follow along section.

I'm not saying this method shown here doesn't work, it works and it works well, but it may be more cost efficient to run carrier and mobile traffic so you can target your traffic a bit better.

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I don't run desktop or laptop traffic very often.. I focus almost exclusively on mobile. And I've used ZP enough to learn alot about their platform. Despite the crappy traffic you do get, by targeting both wifi and mobile carrier traffic at the same time you will get overall cheaper traffic (including cheaper costs for your mobile carrier traffic). I'm not suggesting that you run wifi forever, but in the beginning it helps. Obviously pin submits do not convert as well on wifi but did you know that some pin submits work better on desktop traffic? Surprising what you can discover when you test things.

I've actually never experienced the issue that webdev mentioned and I run on ZP all the time. What I do know is that sources like ZP are not beasts like Adwords or FB and you can feel the impact of competition much much easier.



Andrew

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Hahah I can't believe I didn't realize that you cant daypart globally. I need to think before I post sometimes... One more question, if I am to spend $100 in a day for my initial test split into two 12 hour periods why set the initial budget at $5? Am I supposed to just keep topping up the budget over that 12 hours until I've spent my budget?

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You need to add a subdomain, and then change the "A" record of it to Afflow's. In some registrar's the A record itself is the subdomain, and you can use the IP that Afflow gives you as the "A" record IP address. I use AWS Route 53 and that is how it is done there.

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Just taken a look at this video and got myself approved for both afflow and zeropark. Going to get set up and try this now. Thanks a bunch for the share. Will be great for getting my feet wet!

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Hello Andrew,

I was wondering if you can help take a look at my screenshot and give me some feed backs? I've been sending traffic and having lots of visits, but no clicks at all, not to mention conversions. What do you think I did wrong?

I used Afflow & popads (because I got rejected from Zeropark)

Can you give me some pointers on how to fix this so I can continue with the arbitrage experiment? Thanks!

http://imgur.com/a/Z7OOo

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Hey!

If you don't mind, I'd like to add my 5 cents before Andrew replies

I'm afraid you need to review your strategy. Stop for a minute and think exactly what's the plan and what are you doing.
Was it one offer that accepts traffic from different GEOs or you tested several offers? Are you working with a prelander or running directly?

It is pretty strange there are no conversions - but looking at the price you pay, it seems like your bid is way too low, and that's why you are getting low quality traffic that doesn't convert.. Might be also that the offers or GEOs are not the best.. It's many factors affecting your campaigns all at once. Being you, I would honestly pause it and try to speak with an Account Manager, in order to find one profitable offer/segment and explore all it has.

The main thing is - don't give up! I'm sure with your next try you can do better and better

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Hi Thanks!

Well, actually, I do get quite a lot of conversion using my current setting, I spent $85 dollars, and received 800,000 impressions, with $39.70 of revenue. My problem is that I don't see the converting data I see in Afflow in Voluum. I suspect that it's because my offer link is not setup correctly in Voluum. But I don't know how to resolve it, any pointers?

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Thank you for posting this tutorial! For a newbie like me it looks like a good way to learn by doing.

I have new accounts pending at Monetizer and ZP. I'll update my progress

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Does it still work?

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Works even better.. inventory is less trafficked, as everyone is doing crypto now and they are all already world class experts.

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Is there a good alternative to Zeropark for this method? Zeropark will not approve me due to lack of experience.

So I'm in a catch 22 situation. This is a recommended method for newbies, but newbies are not typically approved for a key component of the method.

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@philbu - you could run a similar approach on PopAds. Even if it doesn't generate profit, you then have more experience and can return to ZeroPark!

Further upthread, Andrew mentions that on PopAds

And you'll need to track costs manually. But other than that, should be very similar.

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Nice Post Payne... It's lot easier for New Affs to be successful using this...

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This method works on just about any pop traffic source but ZP just makes the cost tracking super simple. Others you will need to more granularly analyze costs per geo. Easiest way to do that is just to cross compare the costs for the geo's getting you the most conversions.

Also, many times an increased bid will provide you with better results and may need a bigger budget to adequately test. In this format, you should split your tests into groups of geos so that your budget is more evenly spread.

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I know it's been a while since Mr. Payne's last reply, but I am now going to do this.

Does this answer mean I will not be able to use Voluum tracking with PopAds, and I'll have to use the Afflow/Monetizer interface? Since following the method exactly is stressed many times the this thread, I'm not sure what modifications to the method I'll have to make because of PopAds.

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